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DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.06.24 01:08:00 -
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Draco Dustflier wrote: these forums have three types of people: Trolls who are pissed at CCP for taking so damn long to deliver on what they promised, the rational thinkers who know what the game's fundamental flaws are and try to help CCP by making well thought out essays like the op, and then the fanboys that try to convince everyone that everything's OK. The first is annoying, the second could probably save the game, and the thrid is doing a really good job of preventing the second from getting their message through.
As a member of the second group, i can tell you that the OP cares more about dust than all the fanboys combined. Instead of simply ignoring the game's flaws, he acknowledges them and still keeps playing. Not only that, but even after watching CCP repeatedly say "oh, no, that's too hard. We'll work on that later". and hoping we just forget, he goes through all the trouble of writing this 7500 character essay that not only outlines the games problems, but presents solutions that actually work.
Whether you like it or not, he IS lthe champion of us all. What gives you the right to say otherwise?
I think for the longest time I was the 2nd type of poster I am very disappointed in uprising so I am fighting not to be the 1st type of poster I think if you are the 1st type of poster you should quit and if you are the third you should offer what you agree and disagree about someone's post instead of carrying the banner for CCP because you played EVE for 2 or more years.
PS: we all have to start looking at this game like it is a beta and we are all beta testers |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1734
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Posted - 2013.06.24 01:14:00 -
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Somewhere between second and third.
Things definitely need to be changed, but people usually exaggerate the problem (fps issues? where?)
Btw, by FPS issues, do they mean framerate or actual gameplay? I almost never get framerate problems, and I don't see what's so bad about the core gunplay. Although since I haven't played much for FPSs other than dust over the past year, I may not be able to compare stuff so well. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
384
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Posted - 2013.06.24 01:49:00 -
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I post when I'm bored. I have another forum/game that I troll senseless so with this forum I simply state my genuine opinion with perhaps a bit of sarcasm. I've been here since the start of things in Beta and honestly the game is getting better so I'm happy, I will however not treat this as a beta as they officially announced the "release."
I really don't see the big deal tbh that most people make things out to be, but I do understand that this is a pretty easy forum to troll/overreact and I can see why people do it.
Welcome to the internet, I like turtles. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1159
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Posted - 2013.06.24 01:52:00 -
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I'd say I'm somewhere between the second and third myself, but you'll have others that say I'm straight-up fanboi. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
474
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Posted - 2013.06.24 01:54:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I'd say I'm somewhere between the second and third myself, but you'll have others that say I'm straight-up fanboi. ya i get called a fanboy too, just because i don't bad mouth CCP constantly.
I point out the problems but i don't exaggerate at all |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:00:00 -
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Letters, usually. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
356
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:03:00 -
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gold, pure gold. u fools will never understand |
Midas Fool
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
43
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:26:00 -
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Well I know by disagreeing with you I'm gonna be called a fanboy, but...
When posters like I put up things like compliments, commendations, and generally positive material we aren't trying to "make everything look ok". Everything is ok. People like you and every other internet warrior are either extremely cynical and believe that any sort of positivism is blind and irrational, or somehow your pride is hurt and offended that someone would have a different opinion than you or ignores your personal gripes.
Being cynical and demanding isn't being constructive, its being negative and selfish. It isn't making you look more intelligent or experienced or deductive. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING. You aren't a developer, or press, or shareholder. You have not made a formal investment. You downloaded a free game and you play it like the rest of us.
However, unlike the rest of us, you attempt as hard as you can to find fault in even the things that work instead of finding the things that do. You then refer to these things to reinforce your confirmation bias and then just keep telling yourself that you are reviewing and doing things like telling CCP to 'wake up ur not as gud as other gaems' you are providing constructive, meaningful feedback.
You aren't.
For some reason, everyone on the internet seems to believe that merely thinking about something entitles them to absolute directive over it. I hate to repeat this but it never gets through anyone's skulls...YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING...
Please, play the damn game, and try to have fun. Go and join a corp and gripe that you get pubstomped and then dominate the next game and meet some people and have some laughs. Then come back with a refreshed, educated arguement about things in the game you and your bros believe need to be addressed and weapons and things that feel imbalanced and nuances you aren't quite sharp enough to understand.
OR ALTERNATIVELY
sit in the MCC and make a fake corp name like "I HAET THIS LE GAME" and cry and complain and reprimand anyone expressing enjoyment in this neverending torture for you. After that get back on your crazy good gaming pc that's so much better than the ps3 in every way and put up some super constructive comment about how those people hinder the communication of problems with the game.
You could post better content about how you're gonna go over to Destiny when it comes out. Please oh please tell me what a brainwashed fanboy I am for not completely agreeing with you that satisfied people are just dumb.
Thank you CCP for the game that apparently only I enjoy. |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:30:00 -
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Midas Fool wrote:Well I know by disagreeing with you I'm gonna be called a fanboy, but...
When posters like I put up things like compliments, commendations, and generally positive material we aren't trying to "make everything look ok". Everything is ok. People like you and every other internet warrior are either extremely cynical and believe that any sort of positivism is blind and irrational, or somehow your pride is hurt and offended that someone would have a different opinion than you or ignores your personal gripes.
Being cynical and demanding isn't being constructive, its being negative and selfish. It isn't making you look more intelligent or experienced or deductive. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING. You aren't a developer, or press, or shareholder. You have not made a formal investment. You downloaded a free game and you play it like the rest of us.
However, unlike the rest of us, you attempt as hard as you can to find fault in even the things that work instead of finding the things that do. You then refer to these things to reinforce your confirmation bias and then just keep telling yourself that you are reviewing and doing things like telling CCP to 'wake up ur not as gud as other gaems' you are providing constructive, meaningful feedback.
You aren't.
For some reason, everyone on the internet seems to believe that merely thinking about something entitles them to absolute directive over it. I hate to repeat this but it never gets through anyone's skulls...YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING...
Please, play the damn game, and try to have fun. Go and join a corp and gripe that you get pubstomped and then dominate the next game and meet some people and have some laughs. Then come back with a refreshed, educated arguement about things in the game you and your bros believe need to be addressed and weapons and things that feel imbalanced and nuances you aren't quite sharp enough to understand.
OR ALTERNATIVELY
sit in the MCC and make a fake corp name like "I HAET THIS LE GAME" and cry and complain and reprimand anyone expressing enjoyment in this neverending torture for you. After that get back on your crazy good gaming pc that's so much better than the ps3 in every way and put up some super constructive comment about how those people hinder the communication of problems with the game.
You could post better content about how you're gonna go over to Destiny when it comes out. Please oh please tell me what a brainwashed fanboy I am for not completely agreeing with you that satisfied people are just dumb.
Thank you CCP for the game that apparently only I enjoy. You could have just said 'category three'. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
233
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:33:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Draco Dustflier wrote: these forums have three types of people: Trolls who are pissed at CCP for taking so damn long to deliver on what they promised, the rational thinkers who know what the game's fundamental flaws are and try to help CCP by making well thought out essays like the op, and then the fanboys that try to convince everyone that everything's OK. The first is annoying, the second could probably save the game, and the thrid is doing a really good job of preventing the second from getting their message through.
As a member of the second group, i can tell you that the OP cares more about dust than all the fanboys combined. Instead of simply ignoring the game's flaws, he acknowledges them and still keeps playing. Not only that, but even after watching CCP repeatedly say "oh, no, that's too hard. We'll work on that later". and hoping we just forget, he goes through all the trouble of writing this 7500 character essay that not only outlines the games problems, but presents solutions that actually work.
Whether you like it or not, he IS lthe champion of us all. What gives you the right to say otherwise?
I think for the longest time I was the 2nd type of poster I am very disappointed in uprising so I am fighting not to be the 1st type of poster I think if you are the 1st type of poster you should quit and if you are the third you should offer what you agree and disagree about someone's post instead of carrying the banner for CCP because you played EVE for 2 or more years. PS: we all have to start looking at this game like it is a beta and we are all beta testers
I tend to post in the feed back and suggestions section only on the subjects of game modes and Factional Warfare. I do not wholly understand the percentages and decimals of balancing suits and weapons so I don't comment on that if I can help it.
Otherwise I suggest things like themed game modes, more narrative aspects to the game that don't impact or clash with the FPS nature of this game, as well as push for developing/ expansion of the Factional Warfare game mode as well as the general betterment of connections between Eve side and dust side FWer groups. |
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Midas Fool
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
43
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:34:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote: You could have just said 'category three'.
Nah this needed to be said. These categories don't exist. They're just more excuses to be mad about anything that isn't bitching about this game. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
52
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:37:00 -
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Midas Fool wrote:Well I know by disagreeing with you I'm gonna be called a fanboy, but...
When posters like I put up things like compliments, commendations, and generally positive material we aren't trying to "make everything look ok". Everything is ok. People like you and every other internet warrior are either extremely cynical and believe that any sort of positivism is blind and irrational, or somehow your pride is hurt and offended that someone would have a different opinion than you or ignores your personal gripes.
Being cynical and demanding isn't being constructive, its being negative and selfish. It isn't making you look more intelligent or experienced or deductive. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING. You aren't a developer, or press, or shareholder. You have not made a formal investment. You downloaded a free game and you play it like the rest of us.
However, unlike the rest of us, you attempt as hard as you can to find fault in even the things that work instead of finding the things that do. You then refer to these things to reinforce your confirmation bias and then just keep telling yourself that you are reviewing and doing things like telling CCP to 'wake up ur not as gud as other gaems' you are providing constructive, meaningful feedback.
You aren't.
For some reason, everyone on the internet seems to believe that merely thinking about something entitles them to absolute directive over it. I hate to repeat this but it never gets through anyone's skulls...YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING...
Please, play the damn game, and try to have fun. Go and join a corp and gripe that you get pubstomped and then dominate the next game and meet some people and have some laughs. Then come back with a refreshed, educated arguement about things in the game you and your bros believe need to be addressed and weapons and things that feel imbalanced and nuances you aren't quite sharp enough to understand.
OR ALTERNATIVELY
sit in the MCC and make a fake corp name like "I HAET THIS LE GAME" and cry and complain and reprimand anyone expressing enjoyment in this neverending torture for you. After that get back on your crazy good gaming pc that's so much better than the ps3 in every way and put up some super constructive comment about how those people hinder the communication of problems with the game.
You could post better content about how you're gonna go over to Destiny when it comes out. Please oh please tell me what a brainwashed fanboy I am for not completely agreeing with you that satisfied people are just dumb.
Thank you CCP for the game that apparently only I enjoy. I actually stopped enjoying this game when uprising launched and they nerfed everything except the AR now they powered up the LAV which has given rise to the murder taxi and for the record I have sunk $180 into this game I want it to succeed more than most of the f2p trollers |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
133
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:40:00 -
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Midas Fool wrote:Well I know by disagreeing with you I'm gonna be called a fanboy, but...
When posters like I put up things like compliments, commendations, and generally positive material we aren't trying to "make everything look ok". Everything is ok. People like you and every other internet warrior are either extremely cynical and believe that any sort of positivism is blind and irrational, or somehow your pride is hurt and offended that someone would have a different opinion than you or ignores your personal gripes.
Being cynical and demanding isn't being constructive, its being negative and selfish. It isn't making you look more intelligent or experienced or deductive. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING. You aren't a developer, or press, or shareholder. You have not made a formal investment. You downloaded a free game and you play it like the rest of us.
However, unlike the rest of us, you attempt as hard as you can to find fault in even the things that work instead of finding the things that do. You then refer to these things to reinforce your confirmation bias and then just keep telling yourself that you are reviewing and doing things like telling CCP to 'wake up ur not as gud as other gaems' you are providing constructive, meaningful feedback.
You aren't.
For some reason, everyone on the internet seems to believe that merely thinking about something entitles them to absolute directive over it. I hate to repeat this but it never gets through anyone's skulls...YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING...
Please, play the damn game, and try to have fun. Go and join a corp and gripe that you get pubstomped and then dominate the next game and meet some people and have some laughs. Then come back with a refreshed, educated arguement about things in the game you and your bros believe need to be addressed and weapons and things that feel imbalanced and nuances you aren't quite sharp enough to understand.
OR ALTERNATIVELY
sit in the MCC and make a fake corp name like "I HAET THIS LE GAME" and cry and complain and reprimand anyone expressing enjoyment in this neverending torture for you. After that get back on your crazy good gaming pc that's so much better than the ps3 in every way and put up some super constructive comment about how those people hinder the communication of problems with the game.
You could post better content about how you're gonna go over to Destiny when it comes out. Please oh please tell me what a brainwashed fanboy I am for not completely agreeing with you that satisfied people are just dumb.
Thank you CCP for the game that apparently only I enjoy.
Do you even know what "entitlement" means? |
Midas Fool
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
44
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:53:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote:Do you even know what "entitlement" means?
Nope. I'm a fanboy so I just throw words around. Like how I'm 'entitiled' to point out how you and others argue on the internet
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU ARE SAIYAN? |
Setaceous Prime
Nexus Prima
75
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:59:00 -
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Completely missing the fourth type of poster - people that know types one to three are incredibly easy to troll for amusement and tears. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
309
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Posted - 2013.06.24 03:04:00 -
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I'm somewhere between number one and number two. Toss in a bit of #3, if I'm in a good mood.
So I'm #1.75? |
Otavio Martins
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
65
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Posted - 2013.06.24 03:17:00 -
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my threads are usually bullshit, but i try to give my suggestions to improve the game and leave people to discuss it if its a good idea or not. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
593
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Posted - 2013.06.24 03:38:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Draco Dustflier wrote: these forums have three types of people: Trolls who are pissed at CCP for taking so damn long to deliver on what they promised, the rational thinkers who know what the game's fundamental flaws are and try to help CCP by making well thought out essays like the op, and then the fanboys that try to convince everyone that everything's OK. The first is annoying, the second could probably save the game, and the thrid is doing a really good job of preventing the second from getting their message through.
As a member of the second group, i can tell you that the OP cares more about dust than all the fanboys combined. Instead of simply ignoring the game's flaws, he acknowledges them and still keeps playing. Not only that, but even after watching CCP repeatedly say "oh, no, that's too hard. We'll work on that later". and hoping we just forget, he goes through all the trouble of writing this 7500 character essay that not only outlines the games problems, but presents solutions that actually work.
Whether you like it or not, he IS lthe champion of us all. What gives you the right to say otherwise?
I think for the longest time I was the 2nd type of poster I am very disappointed in uprising so I am fighting not to be the 1st type of poster I think if you are the 1st type of poster you should quit and if you are the third you should offer what you agree and disagree about someone's post instead of carrying the banner for CCP because you played EVE for 2 or more years. PS: we all have to start looking at this game like it is a beta and we are all beta testers
i started out as 3. then became 1. now im 2. but becoming 1 again. |
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