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The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.06.23 14:03:00 - [1] - Quote In the wake of The Southern Legion's departure from PC, as well as various other corporate entities and alliances, some even leaving the game, I believe it is time to ramp up the call for PvE, Industry, and DEPTH to this game. Many people came to this game, expecting a rich, deep game environment, similar to EVE Online. Talks of espionage, massive battles, full planetary invasions... only to be disappointed. And it's not a single bug or technical issue that's causing it. While lag has eliminated TSOLE from PC, it is not the most pressing concern. The most pressing concern is the lack of ANYTHING else to do as a corporation of any size. Squads for Pub, or Queue sync for Faction Warfare that are no different from each other, (even PC wasn't different) and run the same maps, over, and over, and over again. No matter how enjoyable the gameplay, or the 'ideal' is... it get's sore after a while. Personally, I have been in DUST 514 since replication, as have many others, and seen some marvellous leaps forward... but any number of leaps backwards too. The challenge now, CCP, is not to fix the bugs... it's to retain enough players to benefit from your fixes. Player Vs. Environment (Swarm Mode AND Campaign Modes), Industry, and later (but soon) Open World should be top of your priority list. Giving people something ELSE to do as a corporation. Even introducing some sort of 'Operation' Level PvE... requiring cooperative effort from 32 Corporation Mercs to defeat some hostile Invasion Force... SOMETHING to keep, retain, and REGAIN, your playerbase. I'll be here, I haven't lost faith in this game, nor have many people I know, but it's hard to keep faith when nothing really gets done, and promises go unfulfilled for so long.
JonnyAugust Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 289	Posted - 2013.06.23 14:44:00 - [2] - Quote Couldn't disagree more. This game needs epic PvP battles first.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 1241	Posted - 2013.06.23 15:00:00 - [3] - Quote JonnyAugust wrote: Couldn't disagree more. This game needs epic PvP battles first. I couldn't agree more with the OP. There needs to be something other than lobby PvP to do.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 461	Posted - 2013.06.23 15:12:00 - [4] - Quote Can't imagine PvE will save this game. With how slow their development cycles are, you're not looking at a lot of PvE content being added. More likely than not, it'll be 1 or 2 missions, which will get boring and feel super grindy after running it 40 or 50 times. All PvE content will do at this point is delay the dire need of fixing and adding more PVP content in this game. Would rather see this game have better PVP than contineu to have subpar PVP with some token pointless PvE missions on the side.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 558	Posted - 2013.06.23 15:53:00 - [5] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Can't imagine PvE will save this game. With how slow their development cycles are, you're not looking at a lot of PvE content being added. More likely than not, it'll be 1 or 2 missions, which will get boring and feel super grindy after running it 40 or 50 times. All PvE content will do at this point is delay the dire need of fixing and adding more PVP content in this game. Would rather see this game have better PVP than contineu to have subpar PVP with some token pointless PvE missions on the side. The fact that many games out there have both a PvE and PvP Element is the fact. No game survives long solely being single faceted. And the fact that DUST is haemorrhaging players at an alarming rate is proof that at this point in time, it's time to take some action besides 'improving' the single game mode we have to better deepen the game. Something other than Public Matches, Faction Warfare (Same Game Mode), or Planetary Conquest (Same game Mode) is required. I agree, Epic PvP is needed as well, but by the time they get that rolling, no one will be playing this game. It's time to give us the rest of the stuff they promised and make this game a complete, well-rounded game. Not a single facet novelty. I'm a huge proponent of this game... I planned on running for CSM representing this game, and plan to run for CPM (when it's elected) in order to help this game from a PvE and, Integration, and Industry standpoint (something I've been pushing for since Replication). I think once this game hits it's line, it will be a huge game. But without the components, all we see is the same mode, same maps, same people pub stomping. PvE is needed for ISK gathering AWAY from the proto Pub Matches, as well as another way to gain SP without getting yourself slaughtered.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 724	Posted - 2013.06.23 16:33:00 - [6] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Can't imagine PvE will save this game. With how slow their development cycles are, you're not looking at a lot of PvE content being added. More likely than not, it'll be 1 or 2 missions, which will get boring and feel super grindy after running it 40 or 50 times. All PvE content will do at this point is delay the dire need of fixing and adding more PVP content in this game. Would rather see this game have better PVP than contineu to have subpar PVP with some token pointless PvE missions on the side. PVE won't hurt but no PVE will damage this game hugely. There are already teams working on PVE and the PVP teams are still working on their stuff - both are worked on simultaneously and neither impacts on the productivity of the other. This game desperately needs new content and just re-wrapping the current PVP (even with fixed mechanics) will not save it.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 864	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:41:00 - [7] - Quote Im sad to see anyone leave PC but now I wont have to stay up until 430am anymore. Goodluck Southern Legion mining planets in your red zone.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 560	Posted - 2013.06.23 22:58:00 - [8] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Im sad to see anyone leave PC but now I wont have to stay up until 430am anymore. Goodluck Southern Legion mining planets in your red zone. We'll come back when PC is 'fixed' from an AU / NZ Standpoint. But there's a desperate need for something other than PvP in this game. It needs depth, and PvE and Industry are 2 of those things. And they are two things I've been pushing for since I got into this game, and will continue to push for until it's in, and a FULLY DEVELOPED part of the game.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 573	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:32:00 - [9] - Quote SALVAGE 514, let's get DUST back above water! PvE, Industry and the depth CCP talks, but doesn't deliver! I have faith they'll get it right, but we need it now more than ever before DUST hits rock bottom and never rises.


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