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Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:03:00 -
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I thought I'd promote this to its own thread. The premise is that perhaps we need more fanboys, not less...
There's balance. We have haters and fanboys. So what. Somehow people think that CCP has no ability to review comments in a critical way and look at the issues being discussed from both viewpoints and take what fits into their own vision. Seriously?
If we had 100,000 fanboys playing at a time the game would be great success wouldn't it? No matter how many haters we accumulate they will never be a measure of its success until they stop being haters.
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Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:19:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:I think you mean if we had 100,000 developers.
As long as they are paying enough to keep it alive... |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:36:00 -
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Enough of the ******* unicornisms already. :p |
Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:49:00 -
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PonyClause Rex wrote: But whilst we are using big words to explain behavour, we should also note that people will more often than not use diplomacy(constructive feedback) first and then resort to protest/ rioting (ranting on forums/verbal attacks)and finally affirmative action (quitting the game).
If we're talking about what turns people I have a theory...
Playing the beta was easy street in terms of SP gain and access to cheap upgrades. All of this went away. Many players at the top of the food chain found they would have to spend lots of time waiting to get the gear they wanted. At the same time there were range reductions -- so everyone used to godlike weapon ranges was reduced to missing targets they were trained to view as in optimal range. Never mind changes to suits and vehicles and so forth as well.
Basically, to put it simply, the game would feel ruined.
New players don't have any of this history... so they go down a different road. Not much is clear (vets often forget what it was like to start at the beginning) and once you get out of this random academy thing you get pub stomped a lot. I can't see getting absolutely destroyed as a new player being much fun.
As a supposed fanboy, I'd suggest that CCP needs to think carefully about actions they take and how they can turn people from happy players into disgruntled haters. I'm not going to suggest that CCP did not create the situation we are in today.
Luckily, many of us do still play and have fun. And, realistically, I'm not sure if the people that have become jaded will be brought back. I'd suggest focusing on newer people and getting them to stay... as fixing what happened isn't likely to have as big an effect as taking things away in the first place.
People feel loss more acutely than the feel gain. |
Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.06.23 13:40:00 -
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Can't argue against the "massive divide" statement. |
Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:05:00 -
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I don't see anyone pretending everything is fine.
I see people suggesting that ****posting isn't productive... and getting labeled fanboys in return. |
Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:34:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Really now, you can go into almost any thread with constructive criticism and see people telling the OP to stop complaining and a litany of excuses on CCPs behalf and that the game isnt as bad as they say, stuff like that is fanboying and creates an illusion of the game that doesnt hold up to the reality
Well, there's a bunch of fine lines in the mix.
Some people actually don't think things are as bad as some people say. It's reasonable for them to say so. If CCP was previously of the opinion it could leave things alone with a mixed review of this nature then I hope they've learned they need to look into things when they come up a lot -- whether or not people stick up for the status quo (there are always people happy with how things are).
I reserve the right to use HTFU, adapt or die, can I haz your stuff and moar tears any time someone is QQing... whether it be about the game being broken or otherwise. This doesn't mean things are good -- it means quit whining.
Where I get pissed is when I see new employees called out personally by people who haven't even given them time to start doing their job before attacking them. Similarly, while the community reps were not elected I really don't think they need to be personally attacked every time they attempt to interact on the forums. It's a low class move to put this kind of crap on people who may not truly be anonymous like the rest of us idiots.
Anyhow, please don't mistake counter-ranting with denying that there might be issues with the game. Dust Fiend made a great list of items earlier today -- there is lots to improve on. |
Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:03:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The OP of the thread you're promoting is just plain stupid
If you mean the link... the idea was to let people see how the concept for this thread originated. If you mean something else you'll have to give me some more clues... |
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