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The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:47:00 -
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It's been raised SOOO many times, countless requests, emails and threads on the matter.
CCP: WHEN WILL YOU FIX THE CONNECTION ISSUES FOR AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND?
You can't hide behind our hardware, ISP or console memory leak issues on this one. The ENTIRE Corp of The Southern Legion have experienced game breaking lag in both PC, and any pub match that isn't Oceania. These levels of framerate drop and lag have NOT been experienced in other AAA shooters on the PS3 by members of our Corp. And no matter who we face on the globe: US, EU or Asia, we experience obvious and crippling connection issues, while our enemies stomp us and laugh.
This is a game/server issue, and the evidence is right in front of you. The Southern Legion can no longer effectively compete in Planetary Conquest, and we have bled districts because of it. The charity of other Corps like Seraphim Initiative to donate a district or two, while VERY MUCH appreciated, does not provide incentive for us to participate in PC.
This is not an issue that should be providing canon history for the New Eden Universe. It is solely CCP's responsibility to provide adequate playing conditions for the players of Dust and Eve to create their own story. If TSOLE were to drop from Dust all together due to the issues we face, then your claim to have made a game where the players make the history is no longer accurate.
It's on you CCP. We don't want to leave and we ARE a formidable force when we have playable conditions. We implore you to provide a response and an investigation into what I have just raised.
- Zekariah |
darkiller240
INGLORIOUS-INQUISITION
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:50:00 -
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The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:01:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:http://media.indiedb.com/cache/images/games/1/13/12455/thumb_620x2000/TRexPancake.jpg
Pointless and non-constructive to this thread.
Still got a giggle from me.....................now get out. |
The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
549
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:08:00 -
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The Loathing wrote:It's been raised SOOO many times, countless requests, emails and threads on the matter. CCP: WHEN WILL YOU FIX THE CONNECTION ISSUES FOR AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND? You can't hide behind our hardware, ISP or console memory leak issues on this one. The ENTIRE Corp of The Southern Legion have experienced game breaking lag in both PC, and any pub match that isn't Oceania. These levels of framerate drop and lag have NOT been experienced in other AAA shooters on the PS3 by members of our Corp. And no matter who we face on the globe: US, EU or Asia, we experience obvious and crippling connection issues, while our enemies stomp us and laugh. This is a game/server issue, and the evidence is right in front of you. The Southern Legion can no longer effectively compete in Planetary Conquest, and we have bled districts because of it. The charity of other Corps like Seraphim Initiative to donate a district or two, while VERY MUCH appreciated, does not provide incentive for us to participate in PC. This is not an issue that should be providing canon history for the New Eden Universe. It is solely CCP's responsibility to provide adequate playing conditions for the players of Dust and Eve to create their own story. If TSOLE were to drop from Dust all together due to the issues we face, then your claim to have made a game where the players make the history is no longer accurate. It's on you CCP. We don't want to leave and we ARE a formidable force when we have playable conditions. We implore you to provide a response and an investigation into what I have just raised. - Zekariah
I will second this. Not only are we bleeding districts, but bleeding the will to go on. While public matches, even on US servers and EU servers are fine, as soon as we hit PC, were cripples. It's that, not a string of losses, that's sapping our will to compete.
We all desperately want to have a shot, but any time we hit PC matches, we get crippled. It's like trying to fight a guy with 6 arms, each wielding a bazooka, with a knife, blindfolded, and no legs.
We have done everything you're reps and support guys have asked, Checked with ISPs, cleared caches more times than we can count. Reinstalled at least 4 times personally (and a few have done it more than that). Nothing has cleared it up. Even rebooting during Warbarge as some have claimed works... doesn't for us at least.
AU / NZ guys are being crippled, and TSOLE's community is fracturing under frustration. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
223
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:25:00 -
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The Black Jackal wrote:The Loathing wrote:It's been raised SOOO many times, countless requests, emails and threads on the matter. CCP: WHEN WILL YOU FIX THE CONNECTION ISSUES FOR AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND? You can't hide behind our hardware, ISP or console memory leak issues on this one. The ENTIRE Corp of The Southern Legion have experienced game breaking lag in both PC, and any pub match that isn't Oceania. These levels of framerate drop and lag have NOT been experienced in other AAA shooters on the PS3 by members of our Corp. And no matter who we face on the globe: US, EU or Asia, we experience obvious and crippling connection issues, while our enemies stomp us and laugh. This is a game/server issue, and the evidence is right in front of you. The Southern Legion can no longer effectively compete in Planetary Conquest, and we have bled districts because of it. The charity of other Corps like Seraphim Initiative to donate a district or two, while VERY MUCH appreciated, does not provide incentive for us to participate in PC. This is not an issue that should be providing canon history for the New Eden Universe. It is solely CCP's responsibility to provide adequate playing conditions for the players of Dust and Eve to create their own story. If TSOLE were to drop from Dust all together due to the issues we face, then your claim to have made a game where the players make the history is no longer accurate. It's on you CCP. We don't want to leave and we ARE a formidable force when we have playable conditions. We implore you to provide a response and an investigation into what I have just raised. - Zekariah I will second this. Not only are we bleeding districts, but bleeding the will to go on. While public matches, even on US servers and EU servers are fine, as soon as we hit PC, were cripples. It's that, not a string of losses, that's sapping our will to compete. We all desperately want to have a shot, but any time we hit PC matches, we get crippled. It's like trying to fight a guy with 6 arms, each wielding a bazooka, with a knife, blindfolded, and no legs.
We have done everything you're reps and support guys have asked, Checked with ISPs, cleared caches more times than we can count. Reinstalled at least 4 times personally (and a few have done it more than that). Nothing has cleared it up. Even rebooting during Warbarge as some have claimed works... doesn't for us at least. AU / NZ guys are being crippled, and TSOLE's community is fracturing under frustration.
I'll support anything that benefits the NZ AU guys....we always get the short end of the stick. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:53:00 -
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Bump because I'm a whinger and want attention. |
Wolfica
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:58:00 -
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well... bump, but you guys aren't the only ones with server issues. im from the US and i get kicked out of games all the time, or i just get kicked randomly from my merc quarters. and playing with the amount of people that i do every time i get on there are a lot if not almost all of the thousand different players in PRO, we all see this happen a lot. |
DildoMcnutz
The Tickle Monsters
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:59:00 -
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If they can bring the latency on the EU srevers to be like the asia/american servers ill be fairly happy, usually only get a few milliseconds of latency on those ones (usually being the key word) but holy hell is EU bad! What i really wanna know is why our server tends to go walk abouts and disappear sometimes..... |
Ghural
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
91
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:59:00 -
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I mailed the CPM about this. Hopefully I'll get it on their agenda.
Otherwise, let's keep bumping this till we get a response. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
133
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:18:00 -
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Ghural wrote:I mailed the CPM about this. Hopefully I'll get it on their agenda.
Otherwise, let's keep bumping this till we get a response.
That was my plan, Ghural. Honestly I've only ever received one reply to my question threads from CCP in the past. I think if there was ever a subject I wanted a response to, this one takes the cake. So I'd like to see this thread eventually reach the attention of the Devs. |
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D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:59:00 -
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bump because really CCP this is a CORE gaming issue. CORE game issues and mechanics need full attention. always. they are what makes the game playable, i mean really, not fixing these is like writing a story with no plot, |
Tuna the Fish
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:00:00 -
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Bump assist. |
Draco Cerberus
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:40:00 -
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Fixing server issues for all continents is something that should be a priority, not new guns or nerfs or even new suits, lets make the core better before adding the window dressing. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
144
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Posted - 2013.06.24 23:16:00 -
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I'm always excited for new content, but the fact that we are ineffective with any new toy counters that excitement. This is Priority Number 1 for everyone, because those that ARE getting good server connection are facing opponents that present no real challenge, and it's a hollow victory in the end. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1060
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Posted - 2013.06.24 23:23:00 -
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Dunno..
Everyone has issues in PC. Particularly with lag and FPS drops. I know AU/NZ have some latency issues otherwise and I am not trying to downplay those; but AFAIK... This isn't just an AU/NZ problem and there's apparently a fix for at least some of the issues that might be making it into 1.2 (Not sure offhand, would need to ask)
CCP knows there is problems with PC when it comes to framerate, and like I said... I'm think there's fixes incoming soonish in the upcoming patch. Not sure if those fixes will address this specific issue, but CCP is at least trying. You haven't been unnoticed or forgotten. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
144
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Posted - 2013.06.24 23:45:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Dunno..
Everyone has issues in PC. Particularly with lag and FPS drops. I know AU/NZ have some latency issues otherwise and I am not trying to downplay those; but AFAIK... This isn't just an AU/NZ problem and there's apparently a fix for at least some of the issues that might be making it into 1.2 (Not sure offhand, would need to ask)
CCP knows there is problems with PC when it comes to framerate, and like I said... I'm think there's fixes incoming soonish in the upcoming patch. Not sure if those fixes will address this specific issue, but CCP is at least trying. You haven't been unnoticed or forgotten.
Thank you for participating in the discussion Nova. A CPM presence helps with the attention a little more.
This thread is in no way minimising the problems EVERYONE is facing with PC lag. This problem is much larger than just down under. However, we are feeling it more here I think due to the fact that opportunity to take on fellow Oceania dwellers in PC is basically zero. And when we take on our Asia server neighbours it is just as bad as US and EU.
If 1.2 helps to alleviate things, then that could mean the difference between participation and non-participation from TSOLE in Planetary Conquest. But so far we have heard nothing that makes us think that cross-region connection will be a focus of investigation. I hope your suspicions turn out to be correct, but in the meantime I think the ANZACs would like to hear from CCP if there is hope for them yet. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
145
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:01:00 -
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I ain't giving up... |
Tuna the Fish
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.26 01:28:00 -
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Bump because Loathing gave me money. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
148
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:51:00 -
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ISK transfer accepted. Oh wait, another thing we have to wait for! :D
I'm still hoping this subject is top of the list for CCP. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
242
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Posted - 2013.06.27 13:00:00 -
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What is your request? To not lag while playing against other people while being in Oceania region? Don't think that's possible to be fixed so quickly, but hope 1.2 improves it a bit. :) |
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The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
148
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Posted - 2013.06.28 02:06:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:What is your request? To not lag while playing against other people while being in Oceania region? Don't think that's possible to be fixed so quickly, but hope 1.2 improves it a bit. :)
My request is that a fix for PC be put in place so that server preference is not such an advantage over the other team. It works both ways. We crushed Hellstorm when we got server preference and frankly we should never be able to just 'crush' them. If we win it should be due to our tactics and talents. But it was a hollow victory, as were our victories over Nyain San. We could tell they just couldn't land a good shot.
Mirror that to us, and the fact that it is extremely rare for us to get server preference, and you can see why we are so frustrated. We know we can give these elite teams a better show if given the chance. We'd just like the chance.
I'm sure a few ppl on here are getting tired of hearing the same old "PC is laggy" whines. But the prospect that this issue is getting good attention from CCP is the only thing that is keeping me and a few others around. I'm here for more than just pub matches.
So I guess the second half of my request/question is: "How much attention is this request getting?" |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
136
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Posted - 2013.06.28 02:15:00 -
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You southern legion guys are not that great, particular your tankers compared with me and the attorney general.
I would boast more about beating your enforcer tanks with my madugers, but checking the stats enforcers are overpriced gimped tanks anyway. The caldari one is the olny one that had not gimped PG and states that benifit missile launchers (range increase in blasters for a glass cannon, lol, they gave gal a **** tank to complement the perfect maduger), also hybrid weapons are better anyway, so having a proper bonus to missils still doesn't make the flacion worth its pricetag.
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Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
169
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Posted - 2013.06.28 05:21:00 -
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The Loathing wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:What is your request? To not lag while playing against other people while being in Oceania region? Don't think that's possible to be fixed so quickly, but hope 1.2 improves it a bit. :) My request is that a fix for PC be put in place so that server preference is not such an advantage over the other team. It works both ways. We crushed Hellstorm when we got server preference and frankly we should never be able to just 'crush' them. If we win it should be due to our tactics and talents. But it was a hollow victory, as were our victories over Nyain San. We could tell they just couldn't land a good shot. Mirror that to us, and the fact that it is extremely rare for us to get server preference, and you can see why we are so frustrated. We know we can give these elite teams a better show if given the chance. We'd just like the chance. I'm sure a few ppl on here are getting tired of hearing the same old "PC is laggy" whines. But the prospect that this issue is getting good attention from CCP is the only thing that is keeping me and a few others around. I'm here for more than just pub matches. So I guess the second half of my request/question is: "How much attention is this request getting?" Whining implies that the request is not an acurate one. Hellstorm proved themselves against all of ROFL not just SL, and even though we lagged playing against you guys we would do so again if given a reason or chance. You always brought a good fight. I would like to say that you get it worse than most but I don't believe it to be true. Even North America suffers from massive lag fests at random times morning, afternoon and night. CCP is paying attention and they are continuing (I hope/believe) to fix these things as they figure out how to. Part of the problem is discovering the source of the issue. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
148
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Posted - 2013.07.02 09:58:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote: Whining implies that the request is not an acurate one. Hellstorm proved themselves against all of ROFL not just SL, and even though we lagged playing against you guys we would do so again if given a reason or chance. You always brought a good fight. I would like to say that you get it worse than most but I don't believe it to be true. Even North America suffers from massive lag fests at random times morning, afternoon and night. CCP is paying attention and they are continuing (I hope/believe) to fix these things as they figure out how to. Part of the problem is discovering the source of the issue.
I'm not saying what we experience it worse than others necessarily. I've been assured by Hellstorm members as much as Seraphim members that they have experienced slide-show lag against other regions before. I'm talking about the AMOUNT of times we were lagging behind others, ESPECIALLY Hellstorm, when we played PC. I can count the amount of times we got server preference on one hand. And every battle except one against HS we were left with one bar of connection.
I'm in no way minimizing Hellstorm battles. It's highly unlikely we would have had TOO many victories over you guys as it's your tactics that win battles. But our defeats would not have been so abysmal and we could have held our heads a bit higher I think if we didn't have this issue.
Remember guys, the title may read AU/NZ, but this problem is a representation for ALL PC participants. However, I can only represent my own region. And TSOLE have taken in the highest Oceania member count of any other Corp, so I'm pretty sure we are qualified to comment on the issues our region faces.
Patoman Radiant wrote:You southern legion guys are not that great, particular your tankers compared with me and the attorney general.
I would boast more about beating your enforcer tanks with my madugers, but checking the stats enforcers are overpriced gimped tanks anyway. The caldari one is the olny one that had not gimped PG and states that benifit missile launchers (range increase in blasters for a glass cannon, lol, they gave gal a **** tank to complement the perfect maduger), also hybrid weapons are better anyway, so having a proper bonus to missils still doesn't make the flacion worth its pricetag.
I'm not sure who you are or at what point you thought the skill level of our tank operators has anything to do with this thread, but you went a bit OT there mate. I'm here talking about connection issues.
I think you've mistaken me for someone who gives a rat's *** about your "maduger" talk. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion rise of legion
156
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:06:00 -
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Just a quick update on the issue since the latest build:
MUCH BETTER!
I still can't vouch accurately for PC battles, but myself and a few other SL guys thought it might be fun to be ringers for Valor Coalition against A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S and Hellstorm and we can report the lag was very tolerable. A far better playability than what we were previously used to. I think you may be heading in the right direction, CCP. The latest build has been one MASSIVE improvement. Thank You. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
332
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:22:00 -
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good to hear. |
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