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Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2013.06.23 02:55:00 -
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The topic is the question, provide your answer. Are you happy with the way BPOs work, or would you prefer that they operated differently, or maybe even not at all? Are there guidelines CCP should follow for them, or is anything free game? ANything you can think of in regards to BPOs, anything at all.
Personally, I dislike the idea that BPO are AURUM only, and that they are not EVE like. In EVE, a BPO just means that you won't lose the Blueprint, not that you have infinite copies of whatever is on the paper. You still need to pony up the components and labor costs. I'd be fine with DUST BPOs if they allowed you to buy copies of that item anywhere regardless of local market availability once the player market hits, but they would still cost a fair deal of ISK(or minerals if there ends up being some new DUST mineral/mining thingy, whatever happens), possibly the standardized prices we have now.
Also, nothing above Militia level modules if BPOs are kept at current functionality, Standard level stuff like the MAG tribute suits is already pushing it. |
Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:10:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:it would be cool if at the end of the match you got a little bit of each resource in eve and you needed to use them to build adv+ suits
and you could buy resources with isk or sell them and if you wanted a factional suit it would be a high resource cost like 5,000 tritanum or stuff like that
would be awesome ~
Personally I think we'd need a new set of resources, partially to keep large EVE alliances from owning DUST mercs with fleets of Hulks, and partially because it says in the description of Tritanium that the metal is useless within atmospheres and I'll be damned before I let CCP forget that :3
As for Malkai, I agree with you and have heard the 'BPOs as Pallette Swaps' argument before, but we would need a AURUM refund before that change. I can only think of the rage that it would produce if everyone with 'free suits' suddenly just had fancy paintjobs. |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:13:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:You cant apply the same BPO mechanics of EVE in Dust
why?
Because we gather no minerals, we cant sell anything, we cant explore anything,
we can only do one thing
Kill Eachother.
In dust we die everytime we play, we die really often,
In eve you if youre stupid or go to 0.0 with tier 1 ships (and not prepared)
In dust BPOs have to be unlimited otherwise they would be plain stupid
In EVE the have to have a cost otherwise it would be stupid and the market would be flooded with BPC for a insanely cheap price
We do have a resource at this very moment, and we call it ISK. The BPO should not remove your expenditure of ISK, but it should mitigate it somewhat. Make the BPO an investment rather than a replacement, save a quarter of something's value in ISK, technically every four uses you get one use free. Something like that. |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:28:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:The topic is the question, provide your answer. Are you happy with the way BPOs work, or would you prefer that they operated differently, or maybe even not at all? Are there guidelines CCP should follow for them, or is anything free game? ANything you can think of in regards to BPOs, anything at all.
Personally, I dislike the idea that BPO are AURUM only, and that they are not EVE like. In EVE, a BPO just means that you won't lose the Blueprint, not that you have infinite copies of whatever is on the paper. You still need to pony up the components and labor costs. I'd be fine with DUST BPOs if they allowed you to buy copies of that item anywhere regardless of local market availability once the player market hits, but they would still cost a fair deal of ISK(or minerals if there ends up being some new DUST mineral/mining thingy, whatever happens), possibly the standardized prices we have now.
Also, nothing above Militia level modules if BPOs are kept at current functionality, Standard level stuff like the MAG tribute suits is already pushing it. So are you mad that there are BPO's in the game... Where are you going with this? Its a BPO, why complain and ***** about it... get over it - GETH
I'm not mad about BPOs, I just think that having an infinite supply of something is a bad concept for the heavy risk-v-reward system EVE relies on to run its markets, and it will negatively impact Standard and Militia production. |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:39:00 -
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Ynned Ivanova wrote:Its a free to play game, the people buying AUR and thus BPOs/AUR items enable the free loading scrubs to continue playing this great game.
Put up or shut up.
This does not excuse the BPO being far too different from anything else, and removing the aspect of risk. Furthermore they remove the ability to 'siege' a district when and if DUST mercs have to physically move weapons throughout the stars. Just install a BPO and done. |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 21:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Geth Massredux wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:The topic is the question, provide your answer. Are you happy with the way BPOs work, or would you prefer that they operated differently, or maybe even not at all? Are there guidelines CCP should follow for them, or is anything free game? ANything you can think of in regards to BPOs, anything at all.
Personally, I dislike the idea that BPO are AURUM only, and that they are not EVE like. In EVE, a BPO just means that you won't lose the Blueprint, not that you have infinite copies of whatever is on the paper. You still need to pony up the components and labor costs. I'd be fine with DUST BPOs if they allowed you to buy copies of that item anywhere regardless of local market availability once the player market hits, but they would still cost a fair deal of ISK(or minerals if there ends up being some new DUST mineral/mining thingy, whatever happens), possibly the standardized prices we have now.
Also, nothing above Militia level modules if BPOs are kept at current functionality, Standard level stuff like the MAG tribute suits is already pushing it. So are you mad that there are BPO's in the game... Where are you going with this? Its a BPO, why complain and ***** about it... get over it - GETH I'm not mad about BPOs, I just think that having an infinite supply of something is a bad concept for the heavy risk-v-reward system EVE relies on to run its markets, and it will negatively impact Standard and Militia production. Again, once the secondary market opens up, players will be able to purchase the BPOs with ISK from other players while still allowing CCP to profit so long as the variety of BPOs is kept to a minimum. There is a reason why we don't see free tanks or free dropships anymore and a legit reason why we don't see BPOs for advanced and proto gear. Of course, the vast majority of the profits for CCP will come from the constant consumption of non-BPO gear that are constantly lost in every match. This will probably make up a large part of the secondary market in the future compared to BPOs.
Allowing the purchase of BPO with ISK will be a given, but that is not the issue being addressed. No matter who owns the BPO it remains a fountain of infinite X, whether it was bought with AURUM or ISK. |
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