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Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:21:00 -
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I prefer they seek other ways of balance.
Such as:
Jets that are faster, able to fly higher, able to more successfully take damage , can carry more weapons, are more capable at performing acts of electronic jamming, can more effectively use afterburners for immediate acceleration, have greater endurance/flight time, have better cloaking/stealth ability....
I can't see racial variety if all jets have the same turning radius. That implies similar aerodynamic/physical properties, which implies other similarities.... I'm not cool with that, sorry OP; it's lame and uninspired.
They don't need to be drastically different, but if there is imbalance, then CCP should seek to adjust.
But if my ass buys the equivalent of an F-22 raptor, I don't want some tool in an A-10 to be on my ass every turn through a dogfight.
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Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:44:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:I prefer they seek other ways of balance.
Such as:
Jets that are faster, able to fly higher, able to more successfully take damage , can carry more weapons, are more capable at performing acts of electronic jamming, can more effectively use afterburners for immediate acceleration, have greater endurance/flight time, have better cloaking/stealth ability....
I can't see racial variety if all jets have the same turning radius. That implies similar aerodynamic/physical properties, which implies other similarities.... I'm not cool with that, sorry OP; it's lame and uninspired.
They don't need to be drastically different, but if there is imbalance, then CCP should seek to adjust.
But if my ass buys the equivalent of an F-22 raptor, I don't want some tool in an A-10 to be on my ass every turn through a dogfight.
It may be lame, but what's even lamer is only one racial variation being used because it clearly dominates in the dog fight. You said you want variety, but if one version of the jet is clearly superior (best turning radius), no one will use the other versions. There are other ways to make the racial versions different. Turning radius should not be one of them.
I think that more factors go into who wins a dogfight than who has the best turning radius, although I admit this is certianly a big consideration.
I'm willing to concede that I'm wrong on this but i'd prefer to start out with more variety, including variety driven by the jet's turning radius, and scale down from there; even scaling back to make all the turn radii the same if needed.
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Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2013.06.22 13:34:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:
I think that more factors go into who wins a dogfight than who has the best turning radius, although I admit this is certianly a big consideration.
I'm willing to concede that I'm wrong on this but i'd prefer to start out with more variety, including variety driven by the jet's turning radius, and scale down from there; even scaling back to make all the turn radii the same if needed.
There is only one way I can think of to make the initial turning radius different. That is to have modules that boost the optimal turning radius. This will only work however if all module boosted racial variations of the jets have the same maximum optimal turning radius.
So, you are saying that the user can tune their jets turning radius depending on what modules they apply in their load-out? With no ability to surpass the best possible (tightest) turn radius, which would be the same for all jets?
It's a good idea and makes sense..... if this was for instance a low module, like -10% reduction to turn radius. I'd imagine some jets could get to this best radius using less modules due to their initial starting turn radius. I'm all for more variability....
Jet's are gonna take work to get right though.... as evidenced by the dropship troubles.
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Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2013.06.22 14:08:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:A lot more factors go into a dog fight than just rate of turn. Thrust to weight ratio, flight ceiling, maximum speed, even size. If you think having the tightest turn radius will let you auto dominate, there are a lot of pilots in ww2, Korea, and Vietnam that would beg to differ. Tom Cruise didn't do to bad in a worse turning jet either. 
Maveric is OP man, everybody knows that.....  |
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