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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:29:00 -
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The amount of continues fire we can put down range is a bit too much IMHO.
A reduction to 48 bullets seems more reasonable. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
453
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:32:00 -
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Another example of wanting to balance a weapon without other weapons in place.
Why don't we wait for the minmatar and caldari rifles to be released first before we continue to QQ about the gallente rifle? |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
809
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:34:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Another example of wanting to balance a weapon without other weapons in place.
Why don't we wait for the minmatar and caldari rifles to be released first before we continue to QQ about the gallente rifle?
Bud, my main weapon is AR, and I'm in the assault suit >_> |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2028
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:36:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Another example of wanting to balance a weapon without other weapons in place.
Why don't we wait for the minmatar and caldari rifles to be released first before we continue to QQ about the gallente rifle? Bud, my main weapon is AR, and I'm in the assault suit >_>
Then your opinion is invalid. You can only make statements about AR balance if you're using a Caldari Logi suit with 5 Complex Shield Extenders.
Assault Suit scrub. |
Washlee
Not Guilty
EoN.
168
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:42:00 -
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The Assualt Rifle I feel is fine you can bang out 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
They seem pretty balanced to me. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:44:00 -
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Washlee wrote:The Assualt Rifle I feel is fine you can bang out 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
They seem pretty balanced to me.
Unloading a full AR clip without any damage mods or skills, and using the standard AR, gives you 2040.
And that's a worst case scenario, with 3x damage mods and duvolle AR, with one clip you can dish out a ludicrous amont of damage. |
GVGMODE
GVGMODE.
11
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:46:00 -
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fix the aim system and qe can talk about it |
Dao Ferret
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
83
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:51:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Washlee wrote:The Assualt Rifle I feel is fine you can bang out 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
They seem pretty balanced to me. Unloading a full AR clip without any damage mods or skills, and using the standard AR, gives you 2040. And that's a worst case scenario, with 3x damage mods and duvolle AR, with one clip you can dish out a ludicrous amont of damage.
If you're using 3x damage mods, then you also don't have as much shield tank making you that much easier to kill also.
If you have to duck in/out of cover letting shields recover then the chances of you using all 2040 of that clip in one go is much less, and it becomes a question of how long you can go before reloading (if you need to).
If the enemy decide to run across the ground into your gun and let you mow them down? They need to figure out a tutorial that lets the scrubs die and shows them what not to do.
We need more "Stupid Ways to Die" PSAs ... and we need them linked/viewable from the Dust launcher.  |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
153
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:00:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Washlee wrote:The Assualt Rifle I feel is fine you can bang out 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
They seem pretty balanced to me. Unloading a full AR clip without any damage mods or skills, and using the standard AR, gives you 2040. And that's a worst case scenario, with 3x damage mods and duvolle AR, with one clip you can dish out a ludicrous amont of damage.
Thats if every single bullet lands, not even the best players in the game can get every bullet in a clip to land so your point is completely irrelevant.
for comparison Standard HMG
18 damage * 425 rounds in mag = 7650 |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2032
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:01:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Washlee wrote:The Assualt Rifle I feel is fine you can bang out 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
They seem pretty balanced to me. Unloading a full AR clip without any damage mods or skills, and using the standard AR, gives you 2040. And that's a worst case scenario, with 3x damage mods and duvolle AR, with one clip you can dish out a ludicrous amont of damage. Thats if every single bullet lands, not even the best players in the game can get every bullet in a clip to land so your point is completely irrelevant.
Actually, that's very easy if you fire long bursts. The dispersion only kicks in the longer you fire, and letting off the trigger at all resets it to minimum. |
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
153
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:04:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Washlee wrote:The Assualt Rifle I feel is fine you can bang out 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
They seem pretty balanced to me. Unloading a full AR clip without any damage mods or skills, and using the standard AR, gives you 2040. And that's a worst case scenario, with 3x damage mods and duvolle AR, with one clip you can dish out a ludicrous amont of damage. Thats if every single bullet lands, not even the best players in the game can get every bullet in a clip to land so your point is completely irrelevant. Actually, that's very easy if you fire long bursts. The dispersion only kicks in the longer you fire, and letting off the trigger at all resets it to minimum.
Yeah if your firing down range at a still target. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2032
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:07:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Washlee wrote:The Assualt Rifle I feel is fine you can bang out 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
They seem pretty balanced to me. Unloading a full AR clip without any damage mods or skills, and using the standard AR, gives you 2040. And that's a worst case scenario, with 3x damage mods and duvolle AR, with one clip you can dish out a ludicrous amont of damage. Thats if every single bullet lands, not even the best players in the game can get every bullet in a clip to land so your point is completely irrelevant. Actually, that's very easy if you fire long bursts. The dispersion only kicks in the longer you fire, and letting off the trigger at all resets it to minimum. Yeah if your firing down range at a still target, my point is about short range fights.
You're also doing 100% damage at that range, and when that gives you that potential 2040 we were just discussing, missing with half your rounds still leaves enough damage to kill any Medium suit. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1857
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:13:00 -
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Washlee wrote: 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
And yet my Core flaylock that can only get 1 kill is OP |
Ferren Devarri
ARES.inc
19
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:15:00 -
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AR's are fine. They have plenty of ammo that you don't *have* to tote around nanohives like snipers or AV, but you may want to be a little concious about spray'n'pray or you'll have to start worrying if you go too long without dying.
That's it. They're fine. Not too much, not too little. I'm just disappointed they don't have a better sight, despite the model depicting a scope in the equip screen. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2033
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:16:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Washlee wrote: 2-3 Kills with a GEK or Douvolle (Tragic Spelling) .
And yet my Core flaylock that can only get 1 kill is OP
That's because the most radical of our members perceive any form of splash damage as OP instantly.
Honestly, it only seems OP because the Mass Driver isn't working properly right now. Once the fixes come in for that in 1.2, there won't be as many complaints. |
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