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Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:16:00 -
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Should they have a small shield covering them so they won't be totally exposed? In real life when someone brings a mounted turret, it is fearsome. Or does the car and turret provide enough shield already? yes or no? |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
967
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:18:00 -
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The car has wheels. Moving target is harder to hit. Are you requesting the ability to plant yourself stationary and stomp? |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:21:00 -
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Yeah, for a little until he gets overwhelmed by forces, then he can speed off. Don't you feel exposed on a turret? |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
904
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:21:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Should they have a small shield covering them so they won't be totally exposed? In real life when someone brings a mounted turret, it is fearsome. Or does the car and turret provide enough shield already? yes or no?
In the far far future, weapon engineers didn't realise they could take advantage of a mobile weapon platform with a built in near infinite power source, so they stuck the weakest weapons they could find on them.
The also designed said vehicles, built for warfare, without any protection for the driver and crew. No even a windshield. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
967
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:25:00 -
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Its not real life, dont expect those rules to apply. Its balanced as a light vehicle, if you want more armor, drive a heavy vehicle. |
Dao Ferret
BetaMax. CRONOS.
75
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:28:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Niuvo wrote:Should they have a small shield covering them so they won't be totally exposed? In real life when someone brings a mounted turret, it is fearsome. Or does the car and turret provide enough shield already? yes or no? In the far far future, weapon engineers didn't realise they could take advantage of a mobile weapon platform with a built in near infinite power source, so they stuck the weakest weapons they could find on them. The also designed said vehicles, built for warfare, without any protection for the driver and crew. No even a windshield.
True. As opposed to modern LAVs, the ones in Dust514 seem more like a throwback to WWII style LAVs
Personally ... I don't have a problem with that, since a LAV seems more positioned as a light, fast, transport, with the gun as an after-thought, as opposed to a HAV where the gun is primary and the transport part, secondary.
When we get MAVs, I'd expect them to include at least 1 enclosed small turret, then again, maybe not. You risk sticking your head out to shoot from a non-moving vehicle, expect you might get hit. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
968
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:33:00 -
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Tbh, a thread about making LAVs stronger seems ridiculous. Tell me more about how hard it is for LAVs? |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
905
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:35:00 -
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Dao Ferret wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Niuvo wrote:Should they have a small shield covering them so they won't be totally exposed? In real life when someone brings a mounted turret, it is fearsome. Or does the car and turret provide enough shield already? yes or no? In the far far future, weapon engineers didn't realise they could take advantage of a mobile weapon platform with a built in near infinite power source, so they stuck the weakest weapons they could find on them. The also designed said vehicles, built for warfare, without any protection for the driver and crew. No even a windshield. True. As opposed to modern LAVs, the ones in Dust514 seem more like a throwback to WWII style LAVsPersonally ... I don't have a problem with that, since a LAV seems more positioned as a light, fast, transport, with the gun as an after-thought, as opposed to a HAV where the gun is primary and the transport part is secondary. When we get MAVs, I'd expect them to include at least 1 enclosed small turret, then again, maybe not. You risk sticking your head out to shoot from a non-moving vehicle, expect you might get hit.
But the WW2 Lav had a .50 caliber on it a weapon that clould pin down whole plattons of unsupported infantry.
Dust Lavs have weapons that could bearly be described as weapons. The rails aweful hit detection. The light plasma weak damage and aweful hit detection and a dumbfire missile launcher, with awful hit detection, awful spash damage detection, and an inability to fire accurately when moving. And Im not talking player skill Im talking the fact the stupid thing fire at odd unpredictable angles. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
386
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:37:00 -
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I think it is funny when they stop to swap to the turret and then DIAF as I either insert scrambler rounds into their dropsuit or chuck an AV nade or 3 at them. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
968
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:37:00 -
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Is this DUST WW2? |
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
968
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:39:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:I think it is funny when they stop to swap to the turret and then DIAF as I either insert scrambler rounds into their dropsuit or chuck an AV nade or 3 at them. Stopping and becoming stationary to switch to the turret should be a very risky tactic, no mechanic should be added to change that.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
386
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:42:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I think it is funny when they stop to swap to the turret and then DIAF as I either insert scrambler rounds into their dropsuit or chuck an AV nade or 3 at them. Stopping and becoming stationary to switch to the turret should be a very risky tactic, no mechanic should be added to change that. I agree, I was just commenting that I thought it was funny when they did that.
Mostly cause they usually die. |
Ferren Devarri
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:46:00 -
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I do find it reasonably annoying that if the driver stops long enough for to allow the gunner to actually shoot where I'm aiming (because of location-lag) then one grenade is usually enough to kill the gunner and the driver can wander off.
I do find it appropriate, however, that I can snipe the head of the driver if he sits still just long enough in the right spot. That was an awesome, very rare, shot that should never be nerfed :) |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:54:00 -
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Ferren Devarri wrote:I do find it appropriate, however, that I can snipe the head of the driver if he sits still just long enough in the right spot. That was an awesome, very rare, shot that should never be nerfed :) So have I friend, I've gotten a kill on a dropship turret guy and a kill assist. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1713
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Posted - 2013.06.21 16:10:00 -
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The turret on LAVs actually blocks hits, so the only way to hit the gunner when they're facing you is a headshot.
Seems fine to me, and I'm in the turret a lot. |
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