DUST Search - The Skill Point Math of Dust514

Cere Harkens wrote:

Straum Arjn wrote:

And this is the reason newberries will never catch up, because I seriously doubt any of them are capping out. I've been with DUST since the closed beta and I've only ever capped out ONCE. Sucks that I have a life with responsibilities that keep me from playing this game enough to cap out every week. Now I am significantly down in SP from my dust-buddies (see what I did there? :P) even though I pull in the same WP and arguable are just as skilled or better than them. (For the record this is mostly Pub matches I'm talking about and I almost always make the top 3 whether we win or lose (which sucks cause sometimes I come in first place with like 450ish WP XD) and if I'm not in the top 3 then I'm in the top 6, granted bad days aside or total ***whoopings aside XP).

I don't know what qualifies a person as a newberry, but I suspect that I'm one. I started 5/14 and quickly realized I wanted to play further, so I got some of the combo packs that included boosters and I got some Omega SP boosters in addition. I've capped every week and I have a spreadsheet planning my skill gains out into August.

While it's true that not all people who started at launch will catch up to everyone who played in Beta, over time that will even out. You, for example, have played longer than I have but can't play as much. So eventually I'll pass you, despite me being a newberry. Right now, a head-start of a few months is a big difference. In a year or two, it won't matter much at all.

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Shrapnels The Order 1886 119	Posted - 2013.06.20 23:20:00 - [1] - Quote I hope this helps a lot people in planning out there is Skill Mastery choices Active SP: has a Weekly Cap of 190,400k that restarts every Wednesday after server downtime but does Not carry over week to week. so if you didn't earn your full weeks cap worth your behind. Then every game after you hit your SP Cap you can earn 1 SP per 1 WP, up to 1,000 SP if your War Points are 1,000. 4 weeks (x4): =761,600 Yearly (x52): =9,900,800 million with Booster you get 95,200k more for a total of 285,600k per Weekly SP cap. 4 weeks (x4) = 1,142,400 Yearly (x52) = 14,851,200 million Passive SP per Day is 21,600k or 900 per hour. Weekly (x7): = 151,200 30days (x30): = 648,000 Yearly (x365): = 7,884,000 Any Day you desire formula is 21,600 x day # = goal days desired with booster gives you 32,400k per day or 1,350k per hour. Weekly (x7): = 226,800 30days (x30): = 972,000 Yearly (x365): = 11,826,000 million ________________________________________ SP Totals are Active plus Passive: Weekly = 374,000 Yearly = 17,784,800 million with Boosters: Weekly = 512,400 Yearly = 26,677,200 million
Shrapnels The Order 1886 119	Posted - 2013.06.20 23:21:00 - [2] - Quote additional info to come
Shrapnels The Order 1886 119	Posted - 2013.06.20 23:21:00 - [3] - Quote more additional info to come for changes or whatever
Shrapnels The Order 1886 126	Posted - 2013.06.23 02:50:00 - [4] - Quote is there a guides section for CCP forums?
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission 419	Posted - 2013.06.23 02:53:00 - [5] - Quote Nerd
Zero Harpuia WarRavens League of Infamy 526	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:01:00 - [6] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: Nerd Uncalled for, don't ya think? Great work Shrapnels. There isn't a guides section per se, but you could repost it to the Training Grounds for new players. Also, is it just me, or does the number '190,400' just irritate you? why not a flat 200k :l As for nitpickery, you don't need the k when you write out the full number, or else the weekly cap is 190,400,000, and it is 1000 WP or more, not just 1000. Had to include some negativity or else I'd be bashed for being a shameless nice person c:
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 159	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:06:00 - [7] - Quote can i just point out as far as i have been told the active boasters don't increase your SP WEEKLY CAP just decreases the time it takes you to cap out
hooc roht Deep Space Republic 61	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:27:00 - [8] - Quote Most depressing math in gaming history.
Cere Harkens Cerulean Systems 3	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:34:00 - [9] - Quote Good general guid, Shrapnels. One small point of correction to the SP gains, though: the default passive skill gain is 1,000 per hour, not 900. (To test this, ff you time how long it takes to passively gain 10 SP without a booster it takes 36 seconds; or 3.6 seconds per SP. 60 seconds per minute/3.6 = 16.667 per minute. 16.667*60 minutes per hour = 1,000.) This maps neatly onto CCP's active gain cap of 1,000 per battle (without boosters). Passive SP gains per 30 days are: Default = 720,000 Normal 1.5 booster: 1,080,000 Omega 2.0 booster: 1,440,000 Thus, a normal booster gives an additional 360,000 SP per month, and Omega gives an extra 720,000.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3946	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:37:00 - [10] - Quote hooc roht wrote: Most depressing math in gaming history. I didn't even realize Omega boosters actually were a thing, I thought it was a joke or something and never paid attention

Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 143	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:44:00 - [11] - Quote As much as I appreciate you doing the math, I feel like I just lost a piece of myself. Just a piece, genetically, I could replace that.
IrishWebster Algintal Core Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2013.06.23 03:59:00 - [12] - Quote The max SP you can gain in a year, given the weekly SP cap and the passive SP gain, without boosters and assuming that you gain no skill points after you've hit the weekly cap, is... 18,660,800 SP. (18,684,800 for a leap year) If you want it, I can give you the math. Lol
Straum Arjn Scholae Evocati 24	Posted - 2013.06.23 04:05:00 - [13] - Quote And this is the reason newberries will never catch up, because I seriously doubt any of them are capping out. I've been with DUST since the closed beta and I've only ever capped out ONCE. Sucks that I have a life with responsibilities that keep me from playing this game enough to cap out every week. Now I am significantly down in SP from my dust-buddies (see what I did there? :P) even though I pull in the same WP and arguable are just as skilled or better than them. (For the record this is mostly Pub matches I'm talking about and I almost always make the top 3 whether we win or lose (which sucks cause sometimes I come in first place with like 450ish WP XD) and if I'm not in the top 3 then I'm in the top 6, granted bad days aside or total ***whoopings aside XP).
Cere Harkens Cerulean Systems 3	Posted - 2013.06.23 04:41:00 - [14] - Quote Straum Arjn wrote: And this is the reason newberries will never catch up, because I seriously doubt any of them are capping out. I've been with DUST since the closed beta and I've only ever capped out ONCE. Sucks that I have a life with responsibilities that keep me from playing this game enough to cap out every week. Now I am significantly down in SP from my dust-buddies (see what I did there? :P) even though I pull in the same WP and arguable are just as skilled or better than them. (For the record this is mostly Pub matches I'm talking about and I almost always make the top 3 whether we win or lose (which sucks cause sometimes I come in first place with like 450ish WP XD) and if I'm not in the top 3 then I'm in the top 6, granted bad days aside or total ***whoopings aside XP). I don't know what qualifies a person as a newberry, but I suspect that I'm one. I started 5/14 and quickly realized I wanted to play further, so I got some of the combo packs that included boosters and I got some Omega SP boosters in addition. I've capped every week and I have a spreadsheet planning my skill gains out into August. While it's true that not all people who started at launch will catch up to everyone who played in Beta, over time that will even out. You, for example, have played longer than I have but can't play as much. So eventually I'll pass you, despite me being a newberry. Right now, a head-start of a few months is a big difference. In a year or two, it won't matter much at all.
Straum Arjn Scholae Evocati Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 25	Posted - 2013.06.23 20:43:00 - [15] - Quote Cere Harkens wrote: Straum Arjn wrote: And this is the reason newberries will never catch up, because I seriously doubt any of them are capping out. I've been with DUST since the closed beta and I've only ever capped out ONCE. Sucks that I have a life with responsibilities that keep me from playing this game enough to cap out every week. Now I am significantly down in SP from my dust-buddies (see what I did there? :P) even though I pull in the same WP and arguable are just as skilled or better than them. (For the record this is mostly Pub matches I'm talking about and I almost always make the top 3 whether we win or lose (which sucks cause sometimes I come in first place with like 450ish WP XD) and if I'm not in the top 3 then I'm in the top 6, granted bad days aside or total ***whoopings aside XP). I don't know what qualifies a person as a newberry, but I suspect that I'm one. I started 5/14 and quickly realized I wanted to play further, so I got some of the combo packs that included boosters and I got some Omega SP boosters in addition. I've capped every week and I have a spreadsheet planning my skill gains out into August. While it's true that not all people who started at launch will catch up to everyone who played in Beta, over time that will even out. You, for example, have played longer than I have but can't play as much. So eventually I'll pass you, despite me being a newberry. Right now, a head-start of a few months is a big difference. In a year or two, it won't matter much at all. Granted SP isn't that big a deal once you can get advanced gear with a proto module or two, heck I got demolished in a game by CHICAGOCUBS4EVER and he was using standard gear (modules unknown). This is still an FPS, but some of the RPG/spreadsheet elements can lead people to forget that good aim is still better than marginally better gear.
Shrapnels The Order 1886 216	Posted - 2013.07.29 13:03:00 - [16] - Quote can a Dev confirm that 24k SP a day or 1k SP per hour is the correct amount. The 900 sp per hour was a figure I got off a dev post a bunch of months ago.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 52	Posted - 2013.07.29 13:49:00 - [17] - Quote At a certain point the gap between a beta player and an official launch player will cease to matter - probably when the latter reaches around 10-15mil SP. Boosters go a long way, as does playing after cap. I started playing on 5/13 and I consistently finish at the top the board (granted, I am a Logi). Sitting at 9.4 mil SP right now.
Protocake JR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 300	Posted - 2013.07.29 14:00:00 - [18] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: hooc roht wrote: Most depressing math in gaming history. I didn't even realize Omega boosters actually were a thing, I thought it was a joke or something and never paid attention Yeah dude, you missed out then. Just ran out of my last passive omega booster (actives ran out a while ago), and i'm already missing it


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