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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
9
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Posted - 2013.06.20 21:03:00 -
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Hey guys, i'm lookin' at the two skills:
Precision Enhancement
Range Amplification
for sniping.
I can see that most suits if not all have a scan radius of 10m.
If I spec into Range Amplification level 5, that will be a 50% increase of scan radius on every dropsuit. Therefor each suit will have a 15m scan radius.
Then we look into Precision Enhancement and I see level 5 gives me a 10% bonus to dropsuit scan precision therefor i can see more enemies within that 15m radius.
My question is....
Do we need these two skills when sniping? do they help me detect other snipers far away? 450 m - 600 meters for example? |
Zanzbar clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
18
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Posted - 2013.06.20 22:48:00 -
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the range on the scaner is relativly low and i normaly spot sombody coming for me far before they enter scan range so i as a sniper havent yet bothered totrain these up but that is not to say they are not on my list. from my experiance peoples icons apearing on the battlefeild has more to do with you or sombody else on your team spotting them and the skills you listed are strictly for the scaner on your hud |
DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
9
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:10:00 -
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I see, that's what I thought too.
I didn't think there's much a sniper can do about detecting enemies far away. Sometimes I only see the name but not the body. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
735
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:26:00 -
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An active scanner might be semi-useful as a defensive item, but that's about it. The best active scanners have a range out to 150m.
None of this affects the ability to see an enemy when you have line of sight. They are two separate mechanics. In nearly all cases, you will find enemy snipers at extreme range simply by looking for them. It isn't really too hard, especially as you get more familiar with the maps, but the scanning abilities on suits won't be helping you here. On the converse, damping doesn't help you much to avoid being seen either - for the same reasons.
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
9
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:35:00 -
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I guess the only thing dampening is going to do is allow me to snipe closer to the enemy without being scanned too easily |
Zanzbar clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
18
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:37:00 -
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yep your own situational awarnes is your best ally as a sniper. your skillpoints are probably better spent on a better rifle, suit, or damage mods |
DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
9
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Posted - 2013.06.23 20:25:00 -
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I agree. I just find it funny that a sniper in this game cannot spec into shooting farther.
In real life, a sniper gets better the more he practices, allowing him to shoot more accurately at greater ranges.
Why has CCP not allowed this in the game? |
IMMORTAL WAR HERO
Ill Omens
EoN.
2
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Posted - 2013.06.23 21:41:00 -
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i think they put the nerf on sniper range so as to not promote mcc or redline sniping as much
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
9
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Posted - 2013.06.23 21:46:00 -
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Stupid reason if you ask me. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1733
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:25:00 -
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I believe increasing range is mostly for CQC stuff and knowing you aren't being snuck up on. It'll help you see someone on the other side of a wall you're by, but it won't help you see more when sniping. |
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
75
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Posted - 2013.06.25 04:41:00 -
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Try fitting the militia level enhancers on your sniper suit.
Our snipers feel they are much more effective when utilizing these modules. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
25
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Posted - 2013.06.25 04:50:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:
None of this affects the ability to see an enemy when you have line of sight. They are two separate mechanics. In nearly all cases, you will find enemy snipers at extreme range simply by looking for them.
Do these three skills ONLY effect proximity detection and active scanners? I was kind of hoping that the scan precision skill and profile dampening affected the sensitivity of your visual line-of-sight as well, in terms of how directly you need to aim at an enemy to get them on your TACNET. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University
Ivy League
553
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Posted - 2013.06.26 17:15:00 -
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DRE PrEaCh wrote:Hey guys, i'm lookin' at the two skills:
Precision Enhancement
Range Amplification
for sniping.
I can see that most suits if not all have a scan radius of 10m.
If I spec into Range Amplification level 5, that will be a 50% increase of scan radius on every dropsuit. Therefor each suit will have a 15m scan radius.
Then we look into Precision Enhancement and I see level 5 gives me a 10% bonus to dropsuit scan precision therefor i can see more enemies within that 15m radius.
My question is....
Do we need these two skills when sniping? do they help me detect other snipers far away? 450 m - 600 meters for example?
Range Amplification only helps to warn of someone sneaking up behind you.
Precision Enhancement, might be useful however.
People think that scan profile is only relevant to your radar, which has a relatively short range. However, scan profile seems to effect your suitGÇÖs ability to identify people on a visual scan as well. Often if you see a scout at a great distance you will not see a chevron or health bar above their heads. This is because your suit was not able to identify them at that distance. Now, if a scout skills up profile dampening and equips profile dampener, you can look straight at them from 30m away and not see the chevron or health bar.
This means that if you skill up Precision Enhancement your suit will likely be able to flag enemy at a greater distance.
It also means that if you reduce your scan profile, and you are up in the hills, you will not be flagged to most infantry, even when you are in their field of view. This can make it much harder for enemy snipers to find you.
For this reason I recommend that snipers train their eyes to spot distant snipers without relying on their suits to flag them. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University
Ivy League
553
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Posted - 2013.06.26 17:20:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i think they put the nerf on sniper range so as to not promote mcc or redline sniping as much
Wait, they nerfed sniper range? When did that happen? That is not the way to fix mcc and redline sniping. I admittedly have not been sniping much since Uprising. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
764
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Posted - 2013.06.26 20:47:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Buster Friently wrote:
None of this affects the ability to see an enemy when you have line of sight. They are two separate mechanics. In nearly all cases, you will find enemy snipers at extreme range simply by looking for them.
Do these three skills ONLY effect proximity detection and active scanners? I was kind of hoping that the scan precision skill and profile dampening affected the sensitivity of your visual line-of-sight as well, in terms of how directly you need to aim at an enemy to get them on your TACNET.
Just proximity detection. They don't affect LOS detection at all.
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