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Draco Cerberus
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:35:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:
Thats because most of these weapons are/were "noob tubes" very high power for very little skill.
These weapons do take some degree of skill sir to get their arcs right to fire and kill people with as do plasma cannons and flaylock pistols (although I'm not so sure about the flaylocks). There are alot of things in the game that have changed a great deal over the last year and yes some of them need a bit of a tweak back towards original numbers rather than catering to the Assault players worried about supposed "noob tubes". |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 16:41:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:*list of things that got nerfed because AR assaults bitched* Thats because most of these weapons are/were "noob tubes" very high power for very little skill. Actually, it's because most dumbass AR assaults don't know how to counter something (well, besides the viziam LR, and devs confirmed the stats were a fluke) I've learned just by watching most people play why they think everything but the AR is OP-
- Enemy team has major tactical advantage and is using it to put their weapons to optimal use
- Pack of blue AR assaults charge in with no use of caution, and get slaughtered
- Instead of finding a better approach, the pack of blue AR assaults does the same thing again
- and again
- and again
So very true. One time, I was repping blueberries on the bottom of a set of stairs. You could clearly see that everyone that goes even halfway up the stairs is getting shot up, so they usually don't make it to the top before they die. Blueberries just kept going up once after the other. None made it past the top step, but I got some triage/guardian WP
Following a lemming is not an effective way to win a battle, but some covering MD fire might have gotten them up the steps. |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:11:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:LMAO once they nerf logis everyone will switch back to assaults and people will claims that assaults are OP because thats what every one is using and its out killing other classes. The simple fact is 1 flux grenade against a cal logi leaves them with 112 armor and thats if they have the armor core skill at level 5 and if they have armor plates they are an easier target because they're slower. If you see a bunch of proto cal logis why not switch to a dropsuit with flux grenades instead of crying on the forums for a nerf of a dropsuit with a GLARING WEAKNESS. Didn't expect one of my own to be this stupid......... I've not asked for anything to be nerffed dropsuit or otherwise which means you didn't actually read the thread which I didn't expect from you at all carlos I'm rather ashamed that a stb member would post something so foolish, in another stb member's thread no less, and I'm disgusted by your actions so expect to be hearing from me. Your post is foolish, childish, filled with stupidity, and quite frankly disgusting troll somewhere else fool. Lol my bad sinboto I meant to post that in this thread, I had several tabs open and clicked reply on the wrong one and its not a troll post its my honest opinion. And also I won't be hearing from you, I've been in STB for years and feel free to ask QG or the horsemen who would be a bigger loss to STB myself or you. Luckily I have no interest in ever leaving STB and I'm sorry you feel ashamed at a member but get off your high horse. Hmm so just a misunderstanding? Fair enough I'd like to apologize for my earlier post as I did post that in anger I was wrong to do so. However the second part of your post is a contradiction, you speak of getting off my high horse when you arrogantly boast about your 'position' truly confusing that. I don't know if you think I fear you but I assure you I do not I respect you as I do all my brothers however there is a difference between respecting someone and taking it up the ass. You will be hearing from me very soon have no doubts about that my friend.
Well it was still a great post Sinboto Simmons about why the Caldari Logi is neither overpowered nor does it deserve a nerf as it is functioning within the assault logi parameters that CCP described its design to excel in. No need for a nerf is a good thing. I wish you were not so pessimistic about its chances to survive the nerf hammer. |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:15:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:But, but, Assaults NEED to be able to do ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE.
Isn't that called Customization with No Restrictions?
/sarcasm
You mean like being able to run through a storm of enemy bullets, blow up a tank then hack an objective all before the logi and heavy gaurding an objective can turn around, oh but they should already be dead because he is an assault.
 //more sarcasm |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 21:26:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:its sad that AR users complain that we are trying to get our weapons to be just as good as an AR.
its true our weapons are specialty weapons, but thats the point, ARs are better than specialty weapons in their area of expertise.
save the sniper rifle, an AR can pretty much do every other specialty weapons job better.
especially the "point defense" of a heavy, i've seen some assault suits with damn near the same ehp as a heavy and all you need is a gek to out dps even the boundless hmg. lol
I would like my gek to be as effective as a flaylock pistol. While all the reasons can be made for nerfing something sometimes you just need to leave things alone. There have been too many weapons that are now essentially feather duster equivalents of the originals due to changes made, I say bring back some of the damage. Bring back the pain and agony. We all used to enjoy one thing or another before a nerf. Maybe we need a thread detailing all the nerfs that have gone too far. Starting with the ROF of the Tac or the range of a HMG or even Lampposts  because I could take out a tank with one hit with a lamp post back in the day (just kidding about the lamposts but they were beasts). Mass Driver splash damage reductions and Proximity mine damage nerfs also went too far. Balancing a game should not reduce a weapon to an unuseable state but should provide an incentive to using the right weapon for the right job. Crowd control isn't possible anymore with a MD because of the splash reduction and it is hard to see why I can't fire my tac as fast as I pull my trigger (500 rpm would be better) but this is why we give feedback. |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:39:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:
One time, I was repping blueberries on the bottom of a set of stairs. You could clearly see that everyone that goes even halfway up the stairs is getting shot up, so they usually don't make it to the top before they die.
Blueberries just kept going up once after the other. None made it past the top step, but I got some triage/guardian WP
Following a lemming is not an effective way to win a battle, but some covering MD fire might have gotten them up the steps.
MD and up? those 2 things don't work together. Besides, I had a swarm launcher and a scrambler pistol. Not much I can do with that to support them.[/quote]
You sound ineffective. I guess only you are to blame for them getting shot. 
You could have swapped fittings at a supply depot to something more appropriate, the only lemming you can control is yourself. Seems like futility when trying to defend blue dots with a scrambler pistol. Pick the weapon better for your situation. The MD is a 12k sp to get into weapon and can do damage to vehicles and ground troops alike. It also provides covering fire better than a swarm launcher (have you got it to lock onto a ground troop yet?) and if you really need a swarm launcher the supply depots work well.
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