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Posted - 2013.06.21 03:19:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote: logi which is for all intentions an assault suit itself
I'm sorry but this statement is simply incorrect. I can understand how such a mistake could be made if one were to skim the stats, dismiss the baselines or equate "Logi" to "Cal Logi with TAR stacking Extenders" but regardless of how one gets to that point the end result is the same. Logi suits are not equal to Assault suits.
Also last I checked the Light/Scout frames and the Assault frames had the same equipment slots under Uprising and the Heavy hasn't had one for a long time.
With that being said I think you have a point about weapon diversity and effectiveness game wide. The AR line is clearly supreme among Ligh Weapons right now providing more utility, adaptability and diversity for the same SP investment.
AV nades can apply more dps to a HAV than a Swarm Launcher of equivalent level and do so faster, albeit at a shorter range. Proxies have the advantage of being "fire and forget" as it were but they certainly do less damage than AV nades and are generally less threatening/used.
According to CCP some of these disparities are due to bugs in game which are being worked on right now, so hopefully things will stabilize once that set of issues is cleared up. I have a suspicion however that there will still need to be a balance pass after the bug fixes because currently my free AR is more combat effective with no SP support than my Proto MD with SP invested. LRs are so rare that my squads call them out just for the novelty of seeing one, etc.
I do think I see where you're coming from on a lot of this and actually believe we agree on many aspects. Game diversity and niche gear/roles/weapons are important and should be viable, so +1 to that. We just need to maintain some perspective about it as well which very much includes not equating bugs to balance (even if there are both) or Logi suits to Assault suits (even if it's currently super fashionable to do so).
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EDIT: Speaking of Assault suits, their racial skill buffs honestly need some love.
EDIT2: Delta 749 wrote: it takes three standard AV nades to blow up the free militia LAV, thats all the grenades you will have on hand and if you use them on a tank you wont even dent the shield, if someone has specced into grenades far enough for the good ones they damn well better be effective
The mid range nades chew up HAVs with 2-3, so either there's a much wider gap between the damage of the base and advanced than I think there is (there could be haven't reviewed the stats this build) or targeting is an issue, the weak points of a vehicle are very useful  |