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T3chnomanc3r
Ultramarine Corp
5
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Posted - 2013.06.20 09:11:00 -
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In game tonight with PRO we noticed they oddly kept committing suicide by jumping out of MCC. By near end of the game it was clear they figured out how to earn points from dying. Points from Revive/Heal comes to mind? Ringleader was Contraband Joe.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1210
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Posted - 2013.06.20 09:19:00 -
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Or maybe they got awoxed? Was it PC or just a random match? |
Zauis Gallente
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2013.06.20 13:55:00 -
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Oh wow... Imagine an entire team jumping out of their MCC simultaneously and not activating their inertia dampeners and keep going at it for the whole match. Hilarious. |
phakk
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
42
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Posted - 2013.06.20 14:52:00 -
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Yep, that sounds like CBJ's leadership allright. Running his corp and his people into the ground. Literally... |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
735
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:49:00 -
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I'm pretty sure you can't revive from a failed drop though. Similarly to deaths from splash damage or collisions, you aren't revivable after the fall. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
379
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:58:00 -
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I suspect there was no SP grinding involved in their repeated suicides. It seems much more likely that you were noticing an awoxing event. Its also possible that they were loosing and decided to make a game of killing themselves. Its really hard to say without them commenting though. Did you notice any of the suiciders, or anyone else on the team with unbelievably high wp scores post match? |
T3chnomanc3r
Ultramarine Corp
5
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:32:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:I suspect there was no SP grinding involved in their repeated suicides. It seems much more likely that you were noticing an awoxing event. Its also possible that they were loosing and decided to make a game of killing themselves. Its really hard to say without them commenting though. Did you notice any of the suiciders, or anyone else on the team with unbelievably high wp scores post match?
They were all 0 for something but had top slots for several hundred WP in match with CBJ @ 1500+. When they racked up the points I did not notice but there were comments from both my squads right from the beginning of the game about "why are they committing suicide?"
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phakk
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
44
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:36:00 -
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In order for them to get Awox'd .. they'd have to be in a PC battle. And I mean really... c'mon :p |
T3chnomanc3r
Ultramarine Corp
5
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:39:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Or maybe they got awoxed? Was it PC or just a random match?
FW |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
735
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Posted - 2013.06.20 22:08:00 -
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T3chnomanc3r wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:I suspect there was no SP grinding involved in their repeated suicides. It seems much more likely that you were noticing an awoxing event. Its also possible that they were loosing and decided to make a game of killing themselves. Its really hard to say without them commenting though. Did you notice any of the suiciders, or anyone else on the team with unbelievably high wp scores post match? They were all 0 for something but had top slots for several hundred WP in match with CBJ @ 1500+. When they racked up the points I did not notice but there were comments from both my squads right from the beginning of the game about "why are they committing suicide?"
Maybe they were farming points from drop uplinks? |
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Kirin Torch
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
40
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Posted - 2013.06.21 01:59:00 -
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Lol this is insane the fact that they are willing to throw there KDRs away for what ever they were doing is proof they are where they need to be |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
737
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Posted - 2013.06.21 02:18:00 -
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Kirin Torch wrote:Lol this is insane the fact that they are willing to throw there KDRs away for what ever they were doing is proof they are where they need to be
KDR is worthless. |
ZEROBLOOM
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
95
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Posted - 2013.06.21 02:41:00 -
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what a joke... |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
473
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Posted - 2013.06.21 03:51:00 -
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Kirin Torch wrote:Lol this is insane the fact that they are willing to throw there KDRs away for what ever they were doing is proof they are where they need to be
When is the last time KDR was recorded correctly?
Is that even fixed? |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
145
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Posted - 2013.06.21 04:36:00 -
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Zauis Gallente wrote:Oh wow... Imagine an entire team jumping out of their MCC simultaneously and not activating their inertia dampeners and keep going at it for the whole match. Hilarious.
people did that...
they where awoxing ..
annnddd ~
well let's just say a lot of deaths happened that day |
Epicsting pro
Planetary Response Organization
20
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Posted - 2013.06.28 09:38:00 -
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We did not gain points by killing are selfs I'm not alond to say how we did it but unplinks would take to long, but this hint should lead to how we gain the points, falling from the mcc count as if we were blown up so trige doesn't work. If anyone can say how we did it I give them one mill isk |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
232
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Posted - 2013.06.28 10:57:00 -
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Epicsting pro wrote:We did not gain points by killing are selfs I'm not alond to say how we did it but unplinks would take to long, but this hint should lead to how we gain the points, falling from the mcc count as if we were blown up so trige doesn't work. If anyone can say how we did it I give them one mill isk You cooked grenades midair?
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Thalen Shadow
S.e.V.e.N.
7
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Posted - 2013.06.28 11:32:00 -
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Could they have been landing on each other?
Has anyone ever managed that? |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
472
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Posted - 2013.06.28 11:55:00 -
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Not super sure, but isn't it possible to sorta survive a fall if you have put a ton of extenders/plates on... or maybe you just die without bleeding out allowing a logi to revive you, then you cook and repeat. |
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
67
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Posted - 2013.06.28 12:47:00 -
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T3chnomanc3r wrote:
They were all 0 for something but had top slots for several hundred WP in match with CBJ @ 1500+. When they racked up the points I did not notice but there were comments from both my squads right from the beginning of the game about "why are they committing suicide?"
Still makes no sense, one can easily make 1500 without dying more than 2-3 times.
Either way this is pretty pathetic. |
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FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
0
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Posted - 2013.06.28 13:00:00 -
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When is the last time KDR was recorded correctly?
Is that even fixed?[/quote]
_ Yes, KDR has been fixed, finally  |
Torr Wrath
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
337
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Posted - 2013.06.28 13:10:00 -
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Its not gaining SP for dying dont worry.
CBJ managed to get his dudes to try what i had been wanting to get Subdreddit to try for a while and he learned it works.
Its genius.
Its also not necessary to do it in the MCC. Its just a clean testing environment. No, I wont be releasing what exactly he figured out how to do. |
Epicsting pro
Planetary Response Organization
22
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Posted - 2013.06.28 17:01:00 -
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It was not grenade, and the falling from mcc cont as self hurt so no point for healing, keep trying I will keep my word. 1 mill isk to who ever can figure it out. Pro and reddit don't count for the prize and aren't suppose to say what we did. |
Fred Laurentson
Laurentson INC
StructureDamage
4
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:14:00 -
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Can you deploy droplinks in the MCC? You could farm SP with a buddy by respawning in each other's droplinks repeatedly. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
769
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:30:00 -
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Fred Laurentson wrote:Can you deploy droplinks in the MCC? You could farm SP with a buddy by respawning in each other's droplinks repeatedly.
You can but at 25 points a spawn (30 with a squad order on), you'd need 60 spawns (or 50) to get 1500 wp. Feasible but only 3-4 could actually get a decent number of points from it. |
Torr Wrath
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
341
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Posted - 2013.06.28 20:11:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Fred Laurentson wrote:Can you deploy droplinks in the MCC? You could farm SP with a buddy by respawning in each other's droplinks repeatedly. You can but at 25 points a spawn (30 with a squad order on), you'd need 60 spawns (or 50) to get 1500 wp. Feasible but only 3-4 could actually get a decent number of points from it.
It would also tank your KD far harder than is acceptable -.- |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
342
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Posted - 2013.06.28 20:23:00 -
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Torr Wrath wrote:Django Quik wrote:Fred Laurentson wrote:Can you deploy droplinks in the MCC? You could farm SP with a buddy by respawning in each other's droplinks repeatedly. You can but at 25 points a spawn (30 with a squad order on), you'd need 60 spawns (or 50) to get 1500 wp. Feasible but only 3-4 could actually get a decent number of points from it. It would also tank your KD far harder than is acceptable -.-
Unless your corp tells you that KDR is stupid and is evidence that you're a tryhard ******. >.< |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
477
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Posted - 2013.06.28 23:26:00 -
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FraggerMike wrote:When is the last time KDR was recorded correctly?
Is that even fixed?_ Yes, KDR has been fixed, finally They have escalated to not counting kills or assists. That has been an ongoing problem since Uprising was first released.
I quit looking at anything except WP, although not counting kills and assists means that WP is shorted as is SP. Still the same old CCP.
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ContraBanJoe
Planetary Response Organization
169
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:03:00 -
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T3chnomanc3r wrote:In game tonight with PRO we noticed they oddly kept committing suicide by jumping out of MCC. By near end of the game it was clear they figured out how to earn points from dying. Points from Revive/Heal comes to mind? Ringleader was Contraband Joe.
I'm here to explain what happened, and to let CCP know that its working as intended. This is not a favorable exploit by any means. Here is what you were observing:
We had nearly 2 full squads in that match with about 8 of us participating in the test. We spawned to the MCC with many many nanohives and proceeded to place them around the interior of the ship. We then spent the entire match practicing our close quarters shooting at one another while running in circles to distribute the 10 wp for resupply around. You detected us doing something strange because, every time we came close to losing our nanohives, we would throw ourselves out of the MCC to die and thus gain more nanohives.
Summary of results:
Would have been better off just playing. The WP payout is minimal at best, and as indicated, I barely got 1,500 WP.
That said, if 16 people did this with 4 nanohives each, with a Defend order... this could be more efficient... HOWEVER, I still believe that a casual merc could pull of the same points by simply playing the game properly.
Cheers,
Contra |
CONTRABONJOVI
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:04:00 -
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Torr Wrath wrote:Its not gaining SP for dying dont worry.
CBJ managed to get his dudes to try what i had been wanting to get Subdreddit to try for a while and he learned it works.
Its genius.
Its also not necessary to do it in the MCC. Its just a clean testing environment. No, I wont be releasing what exactly he figured out how to do.
Fun times o/ |
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