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The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1503	Posted - 2013.06.19 07:52:00 - [1] - Quote As i see FW at the moment its not different from public matches. In my opinion to make it more interesting you should double the ISK payouts in FW matches but turn on friendly fire aswell. FW takes part in lowsec and that is usually known as risky. Just try it for a week and you would probably get positive feedback from it.
TEBOW BAGGINS Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 607	Posted - 2013.06.19 08:14:00 - [2] - Quote oh god FF plz yes plz turn it on FFS already.. this game would actually be fun with FF turned on. but all the codbabies would cry all day/night on forum since FF was removed from console gaming in 2008 two years before they started gaming.
steadyhand amarr Amarr Immortal Volunteers 727	Posted - 2013.06.19 08:34:00 - [3] - Quote In my experice as I only run FW with my corp. Isk payouts are normally higher but I agree there needs to be some love here. Either q lp system or somthig. Also spawn more matches their should always be one waiting for more players
Seed Dren Ill Omens EoN. 21	Posted - 2013.06.19 08:50:00 - [4] - Quote And the waiting time is just horrible.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 465	Posted - 2013.06.19 09:01:00 - [5] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: In my experice as I only run FW with my corp. Isk payouts are normally higher but I agree there needs to be some love here. Either q lp system or somthig. Also spawn more matches their should always be one waiting for more players +1 +1 +1
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 207	Posted - 2013.06.19 09:16:00 - [6] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: As i see FW at the moment its not different from public matches. In my opinion to make it more interesting you should double the ISK payouts in FW matches but turn on friendly fire aswell. FW takes part in lowsec and that is usually known as risky. Just try it for a week and you would probably get positive feedback from it. Its as different and engaging as you want to make it. If you like lore and RP like I do then its fantastic as I imagine you all as Matari operators doing nefarious acts of terrorism against the Holy Empire. Also if you don't have an EVE corp involved in FW allied with you then there is no point as you cannot see how easy winning dust side FW matches makes complexing EVE side. FW will be iterated upon. I have laid down a couple of posts in the feed back section about improving immersion in the dust universe like themed game modes rather than standard FPS ones, some PC suggestions, FW suggestions, and general small out of game play nuances that could enhance a players sense of immersion in the universe of DUST 514.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 207	Posted - 2013.06.19 09:17:00 - [7] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: In my experice as I only run FW with my corp. Isk payouts are normally higher but I agree there needs to be some love here. Either q lp system or somthig. Also spawn more matches their should always be one waiting for more players Also I'll let you know when I go complexing mate so you can put together a militia squad to get me those win bonuses.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 1183	Posted - 2013.06.19 09:18:00 - [8] - Quote FW is in need of a revamp. It's made progress, I guess, but there's a long way to go with it yet.
Valkary Rising Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.19 22:22:00 - [9] - Quote I agree with OP their needs to be something given to those who choose a loyal faction.
Green Living 0uter.Heaven League of Infamy 427	Posted - 2013.06.19 22:23:00 - [10] - Quote A mode with friendly fire would be beneficial to all Dust players. It's hard for me to adjust to PC matches with friendly fire on when I have no where to practice.

Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.06.19 22:42:00 - [11] - Quote My only problem with simply activating FF on pub games is that lack of an ability to kick griefers, or a system that will autokick player's who TK X amount in X time. Are you all forgetting the amount of trolls in our community? Those who would gain more enjoyment from destroying that friendly 2Mill ISK tank rather than help it push? Those who would actively search for proto user's to continuously grief until the match is over. Sorry but there's just to many pricks out there who would rather "troll" their team than work together to win. Until there is a system in place to deal with griefers than it should not be introduced in public matches.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1678	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:07:00 - [12] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: My only problem with simply activating FF on pub games is that lack of an ability to kick griefers, or a system that will autokick player's who TK X amount in X time. Are you all forgetting the amount of trolls in our community? Those who would gain more enjoyment from destroying that friendly 2Mill ISK tank rather than help it push? Those who would actively search for proto user's to continuously grief until the match is over. Sorry but there's just to many pricks out there who would rather "troll" their team than work together to win. Until there is a system in place to deal with griefers than it should not be introduced in public matches. I'm sure they could implement an anti-TK system for public contracts
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 163	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:10:00 - [13] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: My only problem with simply activating FF on pub games is that lack of an ability to kick griefers, or a system that will autokick player's who TK X amount in X time. Are you all forgetting the amount of trolls in our community? Those who would gain more enjoyment from destroying that friendly 2Mill ISK tank rather than help it push? Those who would actively search for proto user's to continuously grief until the match is over. Sorry but there's just to many pricks out there who would rather "troll" their team than work together to win. Until there is a system in place to deal with griefers than it should not be introduced in public matches. I'm sure they could implement an anti-TK system for public contracts I agree, although it seems the OP is asking that FF simply be activated in FW and we see how it goes for a week.
steadyhand amarr Amarr Immortal Volunteers 731	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:12:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: In my experice as I only run FW with my corp. Isk payouts are normally higher but I agree there needs to be some love here. Either q lp system or somthig. Also spawn more matches their should always be one waiting for more players Also I'll let you know when I go complexing mate so you can put together a militia squad to get me those win bonuses. perfect :) anytime you guys go nuts ping us in the channel and one of my guys will make sure everyone is fighting in the right area :)
Acezero 44 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 32	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:30:00 - [15] - Quote FF sucks, unless its only 1 clone per match like a search & destroy or something. I like FF, I dont like TK.. judging by the forums, this game would have a horrible TK problem. As for merc battles, Yes, I would like to see a faction currency, faction standing, and stores with officer gear.
Mikael Murray Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.20 23:36:00 - [16] - Quote Loyalty points might make it worth fighting for. Soon has been said for awhile now, on the subject.
PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.21 21:02:00 - [17] - Quote Mikael Murray wrote: Loyalty points might make it worth fighting for. Soon has been said for awhile now, on the subject. This
cy6 Raging Pack of Homos 58	Posted - 2013.06.21 21:06:00 - [18] - Quote We only get gallente vs caldari and amarr vs minmatar in FW. Can something lore-wise happen where we get gallente vs minmatar or amarr and caldari vs minmatar or amarr happens also? I want to see a 4 sided war
Planetside2onPS4 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.22 08:05:00 - [19] - Quote I agree with OP +1
Terry Turner Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.22 18:17:00 - [20] - Quote We need LOYALTY POINTS.

PLANETSIDETwo OnPS4 Commando Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:41:00 - [21] - Quote Friendly fire and loyalty points seems to be the savior of a dead mode. CCP must see the numbers for PC and FW are minimal. Something must be done in this dire of times. Only ccp can save dust.
howard sanchez DUST University Ivy League 575	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:47:00 - [22] - Quote cy6 wrote: We only get gallente vs caldari and amarr vs minmatar in FW. Can something lore-wise happen where we get gallente vs minmatar or amarr and caldari vs minmatar or amarr happens also? I want to see a 4 sided war But, you see, That would not be in line with game lore as, currently, Amaar and Caldari, as well as matar and Gallente are aligned, respectively.
Provolonee Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY 4	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:53:00 - [23] - Quote Better payouts+ FF, sounds like a crap storm of chaotic awesome sauce. +1 PS. We have a way to deal with griefers. Our bullets. Maybe after a TK you turn grey instead of blue, then your team can deal with you. If you want to use a 1mil isk tank, team stack with your Corp.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 80	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:56:00 - [24] - Quote FW is awesome!!! It lets me get a game where I'm sure I won't spawn in to see my team's MCC dying in flames just in time for me to be sent back to my cabin.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1544	Posted - 2013.06.23 21:40:00 - [25] - Quote To solve the teamkilling i would suggest this: after 3~5 teamkills you turn red for both teams (OB's do not count for this but you still get negative WP). Your location will be displayed at all times (for both teams), once you turn red your own team gets points for killing you but you will keep gaining negative WP for teamkills. At -500WP you will get negative ISK. basically your contractor is charging you for the miss behaviour. To sum it up teamkilling would give you this: -negative WP -hostile status for both teams -position displayed for both teams the whole time -at -500WP you will get charged basically negative ISK payout after the match.
ALAINAgg Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.06.23 23:34:00 - [26] - Quote Terry Turner wrote: We need LOYALTY POINTS. This +1
First Prophet Jaguar Empire 183	Posted - 2013.06.23 23:40:00 - [27] - Quote Seed Dren wrote: And the waiting time is just horrible. It really is. What makes it worse is when after all the waiting, one of your squad mates doesn't make it in because the game was like screw that guy.
PlanetsideTwoBomber Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.06.24 02:10:00 - [28] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 232	Posted - 2013.06.24 02:17:00 - [29] - Quote PlanetsideTwoBomber wrote: Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets Tacky as hell mate. You do know that plantside 2 is also losing players, and especially publicly know players for being a boring and repetitive game, as well as being shallow in terms of game modes, lore, factions, weapons and general gameplay in the same manner Dust is. Now you'll have to justify this for me but why do I have to pay money to get a premium liscene or to buy new weapons? Why do they all look and feel the same, why is the outfit system to genericly "clan" based? Why when I play this game do I get sniped from a mile away with no clue as to how the controls are laid out, or how to get to the fight. More importantly why is tank spamming such a legitimate tactic and why when it happens does your entire warzone seem to crash under soul crushing lag brought on by unstable servers AND players all clamouring to farm you inside your spawn zones for kills? Just saying mate?
Denny655 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.24 19:20:00 - [30] - Quote PC is seriously killing the game. My corp and I have decided to stay away indefinatly. at least untill its fixed

Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 11	Posted - 2013.06.24 19:55:00 - [31] - Quote I too believe we should have higher payouts (to start with) and FF once an anti-TK system (preferably auto-kick after X TKs) can be implemented alongside. Who said loyalty points? Yes, yes and YES! I (and my Corp) are loyal to Gallente and Minmatar, and I feel as a Gallente Mercenary I should be suitably rewarded for supporting my faction.
KERINMalik Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.24 23:52:00 - [32] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Seed Dren wrote: And the waiting time is just horrible. It really is. What makes it worse is when after all the waiting, one of your squad mates doesn't make it in because the game was like screw that guy. The combo of longer que times and NOTHING different than insta battles, really kills the mode. Should have made the rewards better to combat the rampant protostomping currently killing the "New experience".
GinnyHub Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.06.25 01:59:00 - [33] - Quote Faction warfare is so amazing that I never play it. Loong q times and 0 rewards. No lore. Why play again?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 245	Posted - 2013.06.25 02:29:00 - [34] - Quote GinnyHub wrote: Faction warfare is so amazing that I never play it. Loong q times and 0 rewards. No lore. Why play again? If only you played EVE..... You would see how awesome the whole shebang is. Me winning on the ground aids in determining of the EVE fleets can push forwards or not, or even aid in holding out against the enemy. Strong Minnie Dusting in Asgherd the other day meant that a rather small Minnie fleet was able to deny a much larger Amarrian fleet the novice complex in the system and preventing us from bashing the **** out of the local POS. After losing two expensive ships to gate camps and DPS Thrasher fits I was boots on the ground trying to fix the damn modifiers in our favour and even with a bunch of allied squads only moved the plex down from about +15% to +12% after down time.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 97	Posted - 2013.06.25 02:43:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance, what is the FW channel for ground support requests?
Stands Alone Ultramarine Corp 26	Posted - 2013.06.25 04:54:00 - [36] - Quote You all already know that LP and faction rewards are coming. so why make forum threads about things that CCP is already working on trying to add?
darkiller240 INGLORIOUS-INQUISITION 18	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:08:00 - [37] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: As i see FW at the moment its not different from public matches. In my opinion to make it more interesting you should double the ISK payouts in FW matches but turn on friendly fire aswell. FW takes part in lowsec and that is usually known as risky. Just try it for a week and you would probably get positive feedback from it. +1
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 245	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:40:00 - [38] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: True Adamance, what is the FW channel for ground support requests? Well I have a Pilot that Runs the Amarr FW fields out in Devoid, if you join PIE public and squad with me or another PIE member I an provide OB support, that or I can make an OB alt which can join corps to provide OB's for the day. Otherwise I'm pretty sure you have to be in the Alliance/ Corp to drop OB's....so I guess I'll be making the OBer toon soon, just gonna cost me some ISK to get it going.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 98	Posted - 2013.06.25 07:32:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: dustwaffle wrote: True Adamance, what is the FW channel for ground support requests? Well I have a Pilot that Runs the Amarr FW fields out in Devoid, if you join PIE public and squad with me or another PIE member I an provide OB support, that or I can make an OB alt which can join corps to provide OB's for the day. Otherwise I'm pretty sure you have to be in the Alliance/ Corp to drop OB's....so I guess I'll be making the OBer toon soon, just gonna cost me some ISK to get it going. Ah, oh well, my pilot is in Caldari FW but we live in Metropolis i.e. Minmatar space so we get to shoot minnie FW and Ama.... Whoops No worries then o7
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 245	Posted - 2013.06.25 07:56:00 - [40] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: True Adamance wrote: dustwaffle wrote: True Adamance, what is the FW channel for ground support requests? Well I have a Pilot that Runs the Amarr FW fields out in Devoid, if you join PIE public and squad with me or another PIE member I an provide OB support, that or I can make an OB alt which can join corps to provide OB's for the day. Otherwise I'm pretty sure you have to be in the Alliance/ Corp to drop OB's....so I guess I'll be making the OBer toon soon, just gonna cost me some ISK to get it going. Ah, oh well, my pilot is in Caldari FW but we live in Metropolis i.e. Minmatar space so we get to shoot minnie FW and Ama.... Whoops No worries then o7 I know what you were going to say. Amorous women. I understand we don't like them either apparently.



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