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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:58:00 -
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Royce Kronos wrote:I see a lot of arguments stemming from infantry using CQC AV nades against tanks. I wonder if answering these questions might help.
- Is it that tankers job to stay with a squad?
- Should infantry have the ability to take out straggling HAV's solo?
- Will they be bringing in Proto HAV's? Is the balance issue Pro AV vs. STD HAV's?
Just my .02.
The balance issue turned into PRO AV vs STD vehicles when Uprising dropped. We don't have ADV vehicles. None of them say that when looking at them. The Enforcer is a joke, and Logistics doesn't count as advanced because there's only one each of Gallente and Caldari. The Scout LAVs are worse than useless, and few use the STD LAVs (Saga and Methana for those that don't know). With one top hardener running, Wiyrkomi swarms get me down to about half armor. That's just one volley. To add to that, they're fire-and-forget, which is just sad. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:39:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Void Echo wrote:if you were to separate the driver seat from the main cannon, there wouldn't be any reason to spec into driving the thing at all, you don't get any rewards from the driver seat if you don't get to use the cannon to kill thus making the driver part of the tank pretty much hated. and on the subject of why, why should a single dropsuit match a 20-40 ton vehicle?
these are serious questions of mine Because you can only have so many players on the battlefield at once. When you start seperating the anti-infantry in order to do anti-vehicle, infantry warfare can get easily get lopsided in favor of the team with the tank. In essence, tankers want their tank to do as much damage and take as much damage as a full squadron of protos. All manned by only 1 guy with a fat wallet. With this logic, why be infantry at all? It'll be Tank 514.
Lol? Nobody has been spreading around Tank 514 or HAV 514. It's still AR 514.
Why should one person be able to solo a tank? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:18:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Void Echo wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Most of the tank drivers need to realize they aren't special just because their stuff is expensive, so they aren't entitled for their vehicles to work much more differently than everything else. and you need to realize that tanks aren't dropsuits or dropships. I know we aren't special, that how we allow our teams to win if we try to help. HAVs ARE vehicles, so they should be subject to the same rules as the rest of them. We have assult dropships, they have a gun turrent, no doubt there will be other vehicals with driver weapons etc, it shouldnt be a problem, i dont see why it is, i think the only point i have on this is.. theres no benifit to driving a tank solo it doesnt need that kind of nerf, which is what it would be i could image the tears and tanks nerfs that would follow if all tanks had 3 people shooting proto cannons at them lol although it does sound quite fun and im pretty sure mine might last a bit longer
I have PRO turrets on my tanks. What do I get for that? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:19:00 -
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Eriknaught wrote:As a Pilot & HAV driver, I can say honestly that I feel more-or-less balanced against AV. My only issue is the Assault Dropship being so unstable that ANYTHING knocks it into the ground. It should behave the same way my Myron does, but it falls over like its half the size. Any driver shouldn't get too upset by a proto FG taking you out cuz it's doing its job as AV. Just as any infantry (AV or not), shouldn't be bothered by an HAV killing them, because it too is doing its job. We cancel each other out, therefore balance is reached. The only thing that unbalances anything is who has more teamwork, that is not an imbalance.
That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION.
STD vehicles against PRO AV is not balanced. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:25:00 -
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PITCH- BLACK wrote:Im a tanker, heres my input
I think its hilarious when people call for an AV nerf, especially AV grenades, if they nerf AV nades, what happens to the Taxi's then. If you nerf something, it will obviously effect something else. I think in Chromosome the vehicle warfare was perfect.
Maybe CCP should just change a few things to the yellow Taxi since its the only thing killing people and making them come cry on forums.
Honestly I run proto AV- lai dai, those ***** are useless, unless you actually catch a well fitted tanker out of line. So currently vehicle warfare is decent. All I say, is fix pg on militia shield tanks and Gunnlogis. I can barely fit that much on them. And then again they nerf the speed of shield tanks, like they really needed a nerf. Then improved armor tanks, made them faster.
It's cheaper SP wise to get the Wiyrkomi forge than the AV grenades.
But........................................................................................... you actually have to aim a forge gun, instead of relying on a homing mechanism. |
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