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Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 83	Posted - 2013.06.21 02:02:00 - [1] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I've spent plenty of times doing both AV and driving all 3 vehicle types. Right now, HAVs seem to be the main issue people are arguing about. Drivers say that it should take several AVers to down one, while AVers also argue that 1 person should able to be beaten by 1 person. *I personally think that the driver's seat of the HAV needs to be separate from the main turret, and they should get a buff to eHP. That way, HAVs and AVers will both need teamwork*. This. This. This. This. This. This, Would Solve ALL our Arguments. Except the Windari Logi Suit Problem. Change Them Bonuses!
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 87	Posted - 2013.06.21 17:29:00 - [2] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I've spent plenty of times doing both AV and driving all 3 vehicle types. Right now, HAVs seem to be the main issue people are arguing about. Drivers say that it should take several AVers to down one, while AVers also argue that 1 person should able to be beaten by 1 person. *I personally think that the driver's seat of the HAV needs to be separate from the main turret, and they should get a buff to eHP. That way, HAVs and AVers will both need teamwork*. This. This. This. This. This. This, Would Solve ALL our Arguments. Except the Windari Logi Suit Problem. Change Them Bonuses! that wont solve anything except the infantry's problem, it would cause tanks to go extinct for a lack of usefulness. look back somewhere in the thread and youl see my post explaining why this should never be implemented. So, you think that a Single Man can Cough up the Costs of Continued HAV Usage, Besides the Militia Model? What are You Smoking? Everything Else in this game is wired toward Teamplay. You want to attack that Objective? Get a Bud. You Want to Kill that Heavy? Get a Bud. You want to Defend that Objective? Get a Bud. You Want to Be a Heavy? Get a Logi-Bro Bud You want to Hack that Objective Back, So it Doesn't go Red? Might as well Get 2 Buds, cause those Sumbitches Take FOREVER to Hack The Only Thing in this Game that you Don't have to Play as a Team to Get Good Results is a HAV, and I Know this, Cause I've Played HAV a bit, and you don't Need ANYONE else to Wreck the enemy Team Once you Get the Hang of Driving a HAV. Both The AVs and the HAV Drivers Need to Be Teamplay. HAVs need Some Buds to It can Move and shoot and Do the Things it was Meant to Do. You Don't See LAVs Driving Around and Shooting With No Gunner! Why Should the Only Other Ground Vehicle Be able to Shut down an Objective Solo? Someone Suggested This a While Back, and everyone Agreed it was a Good Idea, but it was never instituted. This Way It Makes a Variety if Roles available to the Game. Right Know there is Only... Assault Logi Heavy Tanker Murder Taxi Driver Sniper AV Derpship Pilot This Idea Might Make it So you Can Drive a Tank With your Bud without Having The AV Guys Whine for Nerfs Since they Need Teams Of Guys to Kill a Single Person in a HAV It Might Expand the Roles to... Assault Logi Heavy Murder Taxi Driver Sniper AV Tank Driver Tank Main Gunner Coaxial MG Gunner Derpship Pilot Just a Note.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 88	Posted - 2013.06.21 19:56:00 - [3] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Void Echo wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I've spent plenty of times doing both AV and driving all 3 vehicle types. Right now, HAVs seem to be the main issue people are arguing about. Drivers say that it should take several AVers to down one, while AVers also argue that 1 person should able to be beaten by 1 person. *I personally think that the driver's seat of the HAV needs to be separate from the main turret, and they should get a buff to eHP. That way, HAVs and AVers will both need teamwork*. This. This. This. This. This. This, Would Solve ALL our Arguments. Except the Windari Logi Suit Problem. Change Them Bonuses! that wont solve anything except the infantry's problem, it would cause tanks to go extinct for a lack of usefulness. look back somewhere in the thread and youl see my post explaining why this should never be implemented. So, you think that a Single Man can Cough up the Costs of Continued HAV Usage, Besides the Militia Model? What are You Smoking? Everything Else in this game is wired toward Teamplay. You want to attack that Objective? Get a Bud. You Want to Kill that Heavy? Get a Bud. You want to Defend that Objective? Get a Bud. You Want to Be a Heavy? Get a Logi-Bro Bud You want to Hack that Objective Back, So it Doesn't go Red? Might as well Get 2 Buds, cause those Sumbitches Take FOREVER to Hack The Only Thing in this Game that you Don't have to Play as a Team to Get Good Results is a HAV, and I Know this, Cause I've Played HAV a bit, and you don't Need ANYONE else to Wreck the enemy Team Once you Get the Hang of Driving a HAV. Both The AVs and the HAV Drivers Need to Be Teamplay. HAVs need Some Buds to It can Move and shoot and Do the Things it was Meant to Do. You Don't See LAVs Driving Around and Shooting With No Gunner! Why Should the Only Other Ground Vehicle Be able to Shut down an Objective Solo? Someone Suggested This a While Back, and everyone Agreed it was a Good Idea, but it was never instituted. This Way It Makes a Variety if Roles available to the Game. Right Know there is Only... Assault Logi Heavy Tanker Murder Taxi Driver Sniper AV Derpship Pilot This Idea Might Make it So you Can Drive a Tank With your Bud without Having The AV Guys Whine for Nerfs Since they Need Teams Of Guys to Kill a Single Person in a HAV It Might Expand the Roles to... Assault Logi Heavy Murder Taxi Driver Sniper AV Tank Driver Tank Main Gunner Coaxial MG Gunner Derpship Pilot Just a Note. Seems a pretty ideal way to solve the fundamental problem. Light tanks remain as a solo vehicle akin to what we have now, are threatened by continued fire from a single equivalent AV spec, have to keep wary. Likely take over artillery roles when the tech's there. Heavier tanks have dedicated driver and dedicated gunners, as it requires more manpower to operate it gets beefed up accordingly, requiring several AV specs to keep at bay or destroy. Excellent at rolling into the thick of it with allied troops, it keeps the enemy's head down for 'em to move in, they help in smacking down AV. Infantry and tanks should really strive for that kind of symbiotic relationship. If the vehicle game and the infantry game aren't intertwined that is a serious problem. We'll start seeing it more when a match type features proper attacker versus defender play, when there's a focused defence to either make a push on or to hold. Expect heavy resistance to the proposal though. In spite of a solo light tank keeping the current playstyle alive there is apparently something abhorrent about the very idea of such a teamwork-oriented vehicle existing. The driver not getting kills and positive K/D is apparently a big deal, who knew? I Could See Light Tanks as the MAV, and it Could Preform Similar to a Cruiser In EVE. It Has enough Speed to Be Harder to Hit then a Frig, But it has enough Tank and Gank to be Tougher to Use a LAV with a Blaster On It to Kill it. Could Give Drivers One Of The Light Blaster Turrets That Barely anybody uses.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 92	Posted - 2013.06.22 00:37:00 - [4] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: I'll agree to having seperate roles within a "heavy tank" if CCP agrees to call what we have right now "light tanks", then gives us ADV and PRO versions, and makes the "heavy tanks" have a stacking bonus to every person in the tank, so It can be fit with a 75% PG upgrade accounted for, and double the base HP. Here is my idea of a heavy tank when fully crewed by 3 people in full proto mode: ~6000 dps 20,000 EHP 30% passive resistance without modules on 30% repper/booster bonus without modules 50 pts/sec shield regen moves 20mph Cost: 10 million/chassis That is the only way any tanker will ever agree to having separate duties within a tank, otherwise, no. And to anyone who thinks tanks don't require teamwork: you're obviously not a tanker and have never encountered proto AV While I think the Numbers for EHP and the DPS are quite high, this is what I'm thinking of. A Tank where everything about the Vehicle Improves as More Guys are Crammed in there. Only there would to Practically Mandatory Roles for it function Properly. 1-A Pilot/Driver-Well, he Drivers the Tank. Not Much Explanation there 2-Tank Gunner-Mans the Main Gun Besides that, feel Free to add on the various Seats there could be in the HAV
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 100	Posted - 2013.06.23 16:19:00 - [5] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: This is a good thread and i will continue reading it but currently im still on page one. I havent played Planetside 2 but i see these mini mech suit things i think theyre called MAX? Why dont we have something like that for AV players, give it like 1k base health and resistance vs large turrets and small weapons ( heavy handhelds would still do same damage ) give it like dual SMGs as an anti infantry counter so it would kind of be like a bigger heavy but extremely specialised into AV, give it ****** movement speed, like a heavy, but give it some sort of jump jet system so they can jump terrain and follow tanks/dropshis/lavs, give it faster lockon speeds and maybe let it change between missile types, the one thing i see people complaining about speccing AV is "WAAAA infantry will swamp me" this should really solve that problem while also give vehicle users a better chance as you can see this mini mech swarming you with missiles/forge guns jumping around the map. Just an idea, id like some feedback on this in ways to nerf/buff this "mech" The MTAC is coming, Don't worry.

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