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AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:28:00 -
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The current PC platform i strongly beleave is ruining the game. Only a small group of the largest corps are making huge amounts of profit at the expense of all the people who dident even have a fair opportunity to enter PC.
The Draft system for the intial land grab was awful...Everything was gone in under 4 min. There should have at least been a day long draft. Bidding wars, and other implementd to make it fair for the corps that are just some teams full of guys trying to get in one some of the action.
Why should the profitable and most competitive part of the game be reserved for big alliance corps with almost endless pockets at this point. The little guys should have at least had a chance to get a claim in or some attacks even. But the cost/profit system had already ensured what the short term game can do to a smaller, Unalighed corp, without getting to the destructive long run.
Now the gap is only being furthered Everyday. And the rich will be richer. The poor poorer. When will these mege corps be able to just proto stomp every pub match? And not be affected by it. When will this madness end? What solution can be introduced?
I would like some input please. Especially you gloves. |
Chankk Saotome
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
431
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:49:00 -
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This is totally unnecessary but figured I'd just throw down a voice though it's as likely to be heard as some guy who started last week.
It's July, I've been around a year now. Quickgloves, I disagree with some of your points but you're dead on that there are too many people not just throwing up their hands and walking away, but carpet-bombing the forums with "how terrible DUST is". There are people out there so sick in the head they feel the need to spam literally hundreds of posts with Planetside2 nonsense. (I've played it, it's crap. Log on with 30-50 buddies, zerg rush for an hour or two, then log off and all your effort is lost. OR, log in solo and get your **** rocked to 2 hours of death animations.... Or be me, Spawn in the back and get a Sunderer and play Space Truck Sim for an hour just exploring and enjoying the view miles and miles away from anything but accomplish nothing).
Kane... Well, yeah. We know. I and a lot of others imagine that you and Jager are the only two CPM out there actually listening to this nonsense but also trying to keep CCP aware of **** while they apparently ignore things and chill in their lofty towers of marble and gold saunas being fanned by half-nude Asian women. (Some of us are more intelligent and get that they're busting their asses but there's just so much to be done).
SoTa, I agree with your statements to a degree as well but you have to admit a larger harm to the DUST community rather than the game itself is people coming on forums and the first thing they read is from some "Vet" who says this game is utter shite, despite the fact that "Vet" is still out there pub-stomping newbies and scaring them from the experience 7 ways to Sunday.
Look, I'm a nobody. No one important, no one of significance, but if I didn't give half a **** about this game I wouldn't be trying to actually help in the Training Ground. I wouldn't bother with the Skill Planner nonsense, especially when it's stickied and still has virtually no likes and I'm told in-game on occasion how worthless the thing is.
I wouldn't still be trying to do my little bit, no matter how small my voice may be, to try to help this game and the community together achieve the potential it still has yet to reach.
For a brief comment (because I'm so good at those, clearly) on PC. I think the issue IS the cost barrier and massive benefit to powerful corps sitting in defensive positions. I don't know how to fix THAT but I can say that we NEED Corp Battles brought back to us. A controlled corp Arena battle system where people can gamble on what they're comfortable with. I've been in 100mil CBs, but had just as much fun in 100k CBs where everyone agreed to run militia and just have a good time. That's something PC doesn't do for certain. For anyone not involved, PC is a damn job, and I'm not even on prime-time for most of them anyway. It is NOT fun.
We need a way to get back the FUN we all had 5, 8, 10, or 12 months ago, and a way to share it with EVERYONE. I don't know how to do it and far more intelligent people have been struggling with that problem for longer than I.
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A strong man can do many things, But the strongest knows he cannot do everything alone. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
656
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:38:00 -
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AnALogginS wrote:The current PC platform i strongly beleave is ruining the game. Only a small group of the largest corps are making huge amounts of profit at the expense of all the people who dident even have a fair opportunity to enter PC.
The Draft system for the intial land grab was awful...Everything was gone in under 4 min. There should have at least been a day long draft. Bidding wars, and other implementd to make it fair for the corps that are just some teams full of guys trying to get in one some of the action.
Why should the profitable and most competitive part of the game be reserved for big alliance corps with almost endless pockets at this point. The little guys should have at least had a chance to get a claim in or some attacks even. But the cost/profit system had already ensured what the short term game can do to a smaller, Unalighed corp, without getting to the destructive long run.
Now the gap is only being furthered Everyday. And the rich will be richer. The poor poorer. When will these mege corps be able to just proto stomp every pub match? And not be affected by it. When will this madness end? What solution can be introduced?
I would like some input please. Especially you gloves.
Even the little guy if they have some skill or sense of teamwork can attack a distict in pc. All that that means is that if you manage to flip a alliance owned district you have to fight to keep it. The large corps with player bases manage to fight daily casue they have people online taking care of it.
So recruit active players train to be competitive an try to take a district. No matter how large aa alliance is if they cant beat you in a battle they will never take the district from you, long as you show up.
why should a 20 man corp be able to hold a district. What entitles them to that? the game was free, people joined corps they like now the mainly corps that planned for this are fighting in P/C. A 20 man corp can attack any district for 80 million isk. I see no problem you want in on the action then pony up the isk attack an win. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
658
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:01:00 -
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refresh so guy can see my re-butyl |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
122
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:45:00 -
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nice long post, I believe the same. How about some clam chowder? |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
122
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:53:00 -
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So, will we be able to see 2 corps vs 2 corps? That will be massive, fun and pure chaos and death. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
661
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:45:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:So, will we be able to see 2 corps vs 2 corps? That will be massive, fun and pure chaos and death.
That would be cool. Like a giant coalition style battle./ |
Zelorian Dexter snr
DVC 514
4
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:09:00 -
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epic post friend its so nice to find another person who understands what CCP are trying to acheve here. This will mold into one of the great games of our time just stick with it. Sure its a bit bugged in places but lets face upto it the only reason CoD isnt is its the same dam game with new skins each time. At least they are trying something new |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
76
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:32:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:dafaq did I just read. FPSmmo? You can place mmo where ever you like - this game still isn't massive OR linked to eve in a meaningful way to call it an expansion of it - we're just using the same background.
And don't let open beta players into feedback? What sort of crap talk is that? As if population isn't dying around here enough - now you want to censor people out of fear that their experiences in other FPS's might be spoken aloud here? A lot of non-casual players didn't get a chance to be in the closed beta - your generalization of our community is... let's just say wrong. Casuals should have a voice either way and CCP shouldn't be derailed to make good mechanics by it - it's not rocket science. Though judging from Uprising they make it seem like it is. And EVE players can offer nothing in the way of improving FPS mechanics, so why single them out as being useful around here?
And PC is NOT working fine. It's trash. How many corps have pulled out or flatly refuse to even try? Look how many corps are in the top 300 with 100+ members - then look how many are in PC even with space opening up and being sold cheap.
The rest of your post was you brown nosing CCP as if they need a pat on the back for uprising after-all the rage. They don't - haven't you seen there HTFU video? They should probably take there own advice.
I know you're just trying to be positive - but did it have to come with all this non-sense? yes my opinion so wrong with so many likes an the fact that people are tired of seeing u an an other doom an gloomers. You can disagree all you want my opinion is still valid an holds value to those that agree. This thread been here for days an its obviouse you are so bored In your life that you have come here to argue an troll. so do wat we did last night an message me on Skype you can rant there without wasting more forum space. I am here to listen
Congratulations you have rounded up what remains of the nitwits who live in their bubble. Yes no doubt the EVEtards will like your post because this is their main game. Their entire gaming life revolves around CCP both Dust and EVE so congrats on tapping into them. Meanwhile real deal FPS players are leaving by the droves, but hey look on the bright side you can pull another MAG like claim of being the best in the game after the real competition leaves the game. Don't get me wrong i dont fault you for it your community would only fall apart faster if it migrated over to another competitive game where it would be repetitively noob stomped so better to remain isolated and in a bubble and ignorant of how bad they really are. (hows tcd toxicated working out?).
In the end Dust will survive and limp on among the EVE players who cant do well enough in EVE to make a mark on New Eden so they will look to Dust as their way of making a mark and with its dumbed downed mechanics and uber noob weapons they wont have much trouble doing it, im just waiting for the day this FPSMMO(lol) becomes fully turned base once any real FPS player is gone and all that is left if the sucktards who cant point a gun to save their lives. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
662
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:56:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Quickgloves wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:dafaq did I just read. FPSmmo? You can place mmo where ever you like - this game still isn't massive OR linked to eve in a meaningful way to call it an expansion of it - we're just using the same background.
And don't let open beta players into feedback? What sort of crap talk is that? As if population isn't dying around here enough - now you want to censor people out of fear that their experiences in other FPS's might be spoken aloud here? A lot of non-casual players didn't get a chance to be in the closed beta - your generalization of our community is... let's just say wrong. Casuals should have a voice either way and CCP shouldn't be derailed to make good mechanics by it - it's not rocket science. Though judging from Uprising they make it seem like it is. And EVE players can offer nothing in the way of improving FPS mechanics, so why single them out as being useful around here?
And PC is NOT working fine. It's trash. How many corps have pulled out or flatly refuse to even try? Look how many corps are in the top 300 with 100+ members - then look how many are in PC even with space opening up and being sold cheap.
The rest of your post was you brown nosing CCP as if they need a pat on the back for uprising after-all the rage. They don't - haven't you seen there HTFU video? They should probably take there own advice.
I know you're just trying to be positive - but did it have to come with all this non-sense? yes my opinion so wrong with so many likes an the fact that people are tired of seeing u an an other doom an gloomers. You can disagree all you want my opinion is still valid an holds value to those that agree. This thread been here for days an its obviouse you are so bored In your life that you have come here to argue an troll. so do wat we did last night an message me on Skype you can rant there without wasting more forum space. I am here to listen Congratulations you have rounded up what remains of the nitwits who live in their bubble. Yes no doubt the EVEtards will like your post because this is their main game. Their entire gaming life revolves around CCP both Dust and EVE so congrats on tapping into them. Meanwhile real deal FPS players are leaving by the droves, but hey look on the bright side you can pull another MAG like claim of being the best in the game after the real competition leaves the game. Don't get me wrong i dont fault you for it your community would only fall apart faster if it migrated over to another competitive game where it would be repetitively noob stomped so better to remain isolated and in a bubble and ignorant of how bad they really are. (hows tcd toxicated working out?). In the end Dust will survive and limp on among the EVE players who cant do well enough in EVE to make a mark on New Eden so they will look to Dust as their way of making a mark and with its dumbed downed mechanics and uber noob weapons they wont have much trouble doing it, im just waiting for the day this FPSMMO(lol) becomes fully turned base once any real FPS player is gone and all that is left if the sucktards who cant point a gun to save their lives.
so another nay sayer with imp in its corp name.. anyone else see a pattern?
all opinions are valid to the beholder. |
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
77
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Posted - 2013.07.09 17:20:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:Quickgloves wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:dafaq did I just read. FPSmmo? You can place mmo where ever you like - this game still isn't massive OR linked to eve in a meaningful way to call it an expansion of it - we're just using the same background.
And don't let open beta players into feedback? What sort of crap talk is that? As if population isn't dying around here enough - now you want to censor people out of fear that their experiences in other FPS's might be spoken aloud here? A lot of non-casual players didn't get a chance to be in the closed beta - your generalization of our community is... let's just say wrong. Casuals should have a voice either way and CCP shouldn't be derailed to make good mechanics by it - it's not rocket science. Though judging from Uprising they make it seem like it is. And EVE players can offer nothing in the way of improving FPS mechanics, so why single them out as being useful around here?
And PC is NOT working fine. It's trash. How many corps have pulled out or flatly refuse to even try? Look how many corps are in the top 300 with 100+ members - then look how many are in PC even with space opening up and being sold cheap.
The rest of your post was you brown nosing CCP as if they need a pat on the back for uprising after-all the rage. They don't - haven't you seen there HTFU video? They should probably take there own advice.
I know you're just trying to be positive - but did it have to come with all this non-sense? yes my opinion so wrong with so many likes an the fact that people are tired of seeing u an an other doom an gloomers. You can disagree all you want my opinion is still valid an holds value to those that agree. This thread been here for days an its obviouse you are so bored In your life that you have come here to argue an troll. so do wat we did last night an message me on Skype you can rant there without wasting more forum space. I am here to listen Congratulations you have rounded up what remains of the nitwits who live in their bubble. Yes no doubt the EVEtards will like your post because this is their main game. Their entire gaming life revolves around CCP both Dust and EVE so congrats on tapping into them. Meanwhile real deal FPS players are leaving by the droves, but hey look on the bright side you can pull another MAG like claim of being the best in the game after the real competition leaves the game. Don't get me wrong i dont fault you for it your community would only fall apart faster if it migrated over to another competitive game where it would be repetitively noob stomped so better to remain isolated and in a bubble and ignorant of how bad they really are. (hows tcd toxicated working out?). In the end Dust will survive and limp on among the EVE players who cant do well enough in EVE to make a mark on New Eden so they will look to Dust as their way of making a mark and with its dumbed downed mechanics and uber noob weapons they wont have much trouble doing it, im just waiting for the day this FPSMMO(lol) becomes fully turned base once any real FPS player is gone and all that is left if the sucktards who cant point a gun to save their lives. so another nay sayer with imp in its corp name.. anyone else see a pattern? all opinions are valid to the beholder.
Yup yet again the IMPS lead the way as they have in everything in Dust. Shame really outside of True Grits cooperation with us that the devs haven't listened. If they did the game would be in great shape. Interested in seeing the PC devblog thats due to come today, though im pretty sure what it will include given the posts another IMP made on the subject a month ago that it will include most of those features.
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Rannici
Internal Error. League of Infamy
77
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Posted - 2013.07.09 18:10:00 -
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(yawn). quickgloves trying to pretend he's still relevant. laughable. |
Quickgloves
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
686
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Posted - 2013.07.09 19:13:00 -
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pot officially stirred.
An as I said each opinion is valid to the beholder.
So again I enjoy Dust I am proud of what if any contributions I or my associates have had. WE all cant want franchise shooters. Some of us crave substance over flashy. Don't get me wrong its nice to cruise around in Cadillac but something rare an shiny like dust is on the track to be hmm.. like a 68 mustang no that is something I would like more.
I will continue to speak highly of this company an its outputs. Those of you that feel otherwise.. well I hear BF4 is nice. An don't fret SVEr TRue Bloods did open up shop there as well. I will not be manning that ship however I am staying EVE/Dust |
Rannici
Internal Error. League of Infamy
79
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:05:00 -
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this whole thread makes me laugh.
you, of all people, urging CCP to pander more to the hardcore no-lifers, going so far as to suggest that 'open beta or freshies' not be allowed to provide feedback on the forums.
... by alienating the 'casual' player base, you are effectively continuing to stagnate the growth of this game. ..you know what happens when the supply of noobs dries up on the battlefield? it becomes the same battles against the same people, over and over again. dog eat dog. ... and mediocre corporations that hold too high of an opinion of themselves (such as SVER), get annihilated by their hubris, and become the first to fall.
so go on, keep on saying dust should not listen to the 'freshies'. i give it two weeks before you're back here saying something to the effect of, 'so long dust. thanks for all the memories.' the battles will only get tougher as the lower sp toons stop playing.
oh now i see... ...this is your master plan. keep encouraging CCP to make poor decisions by listening only to the so-called 'veteran' players, so you can see every corporation meet the same fate as SVER. i get it now. BRAVO sir. BRAVO. some people just want to watch the world burn. |
Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
603
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:57:00 -
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Quickgloves:the only guy I know that can post something positive and encouraging on the forums and get an entire essays worth of troll post as replys.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
686
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:02:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Quickgloves:the only guy I know that can post something positive and encouraging on the forums and get an entire essays worth of troll post as replys.
Gee, it's like when Sver entered beta they built a reputation to be trolled senseless due to starting the whole trollmess to begin with, and the reputation stuck. |
Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
603
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:23:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Quickgloves:the only guy I know that can post something positive and encouraging on the forums and get an entire essays worth of troll post as replys.
Gee, it's like when Sver entered beta they built a reputation to be trolled senseless due to starting the whole trollmess to begin with, and the reputation stuck.
I know right? It's weird.
All jokes aside though the hate towards stb from most precedes dust. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. League of Infamy
3364
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:25:00 -
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lol - gotta give props to QG. He knows how to bullshit to gain support. Explains how STB got so big to fall so hard lol |
Quickgloves
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
688
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:47:00 -
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yeh what that guy said. for sure
I love the game an its faults makes it feel real. I don't want a a,b,c style game I want something with substance. DUST/EVE lore an cross platform gives me that so I am satisfied..
Hate me all you want that's fine I am sincere an my next statement.
THank you to all including the IMPS who have helped push for the evolution of DUST. In PC a lot of things were learned from the aggressive nature everyone took.
The imps have helped provide feedback on there speciality (FPS ability an forum Trolling)
EoN an Cros tested the server abilities to there fullest extent day in an day out warring with one another.
MY corp as well as many ROFL corps tested many fits an skills load outs to report back to CCP all while developing learning an establishing a hierarchy in new eden.
Team Players has successfully established an INDY zone in PC for all non-alliance corps in Altbrad. Last time this was done I think the imps attacked it (Dust University) someone feel free to correct me on that.
Planet fight club thanks to SI an others is a safe haven for PC battles.
THe hit detection an pc lag has been fixed thanks to all of are hours battling through it in pc battles upon release.
So agree to disagree that CCP gave us a sandbox(Molden HEath) n we did as we wished with it. First we burned it destroying all that it was with WAr. THen we began gardening pruning an creating this place that we all currently live in. EoN an LOI rising to power. Fight Club INDY planets. WE created a safe havens neutral zones an the prologue to a story yet to unfold.
EVEn if war was to fall on molden heath again, We as gamers will do exactly what we did the first time thanks to CCP. WE will have the free ability to recreate zones an repopulate molden heath thanks to CCP's design.
Want to argue guns an other fallacies?
Yeh agreed some weapons are iffy an over marketed but it is that way in every game. Always one weapon that most people use making those that die a lot think it sop. Get over its a an FPS. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPL KILL PEOPEL WITH GUNS same way in the game.
Anyway ty again to all corps an trolls cause without your incentive natures or over zealous attitudes I would not be so happy with DUST 514. |
Marston VC
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
550
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:04:00 -
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da GAND wrote:right now Dust 514 gets boring really dam quickly, PC battles are the only thing keeping me in this game. The July update better be worth the wait or Dust 514 is finished.
Then find something fun to do, like..... Flaylock spam, Lav spam, forge gun sniping ect ect..... plenty of fun things to do! |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2413
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:23:00 -
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I have deleted some personal attacks from this thread. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Quickgloves
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
689
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:45:00 -
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SO CCp you should be excited a war is erupting in molden heath you guys got popcorn notebooks an pens on standby? ps anyone fix Socks' coffee maker? |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
188
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:56:00 -
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^ what about a war? Does it matter? |
Quickgloves
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
694
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Posted - 2013.07.14 01:41:00 -
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great^ |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
731
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Posted - 2013.07.16 04:06:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:I have deleted some personal attacks from this thread. Lol I just noticed he said : some of the personal attacks not all
Don't blame him it'd take a half hour to delete um all |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
650
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:11:00 -
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da GAND wrote:right now Dust 514 gets boring really dam quickly, PC battles are the only thing keeping me in this game. The July update better be worth the wait or Dust 514 is finished.
Been hearing DUST is dead for 18 months. It will still be here and most of us will too. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
650
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:16:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:GM Grave wrote:We love you guys too, but is Dusties an accepted term? I recall some unhappy critters when they were referred to as "DUST bunnies" or "DUSTers".
Do you consider yourself a Merc, Ninja, Clone, super merc-ninja clone? Answers on a postcard please, WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?
...and why do you enjoy repeatedly t-bagging dead clones? Dusties refers to the dirty players. Meaning the ones that are covered in the grime from previous builds the closed beta boys the lifers the hardcore the ones covered in dust cause they haven't left there seat since the game was released. Ps tbaggin is just a fps thing. it comes with the territory. You should be asking all the ladies why they taco dropping so hard!
Taco dropping?? That's gross. We like snail trailing around here. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
732
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:21:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:da GAND wrote:right now Dust 514 gets boring really dam quickly, PC battles are the only thing keeping me in this game. The July update better be worth the wait or Dust 514 is finished. Been hearing DUST is dead for 18 months. It will still be here and most of us will too. yes sir been with this game for a long time and I'll be here for a longer time still. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
650
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:22:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM9Bynjh2Lk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you don't know what the Holy Hand Grenade is or how dangerous bunnies can be then watch this. This clip is why "Dust Bunnies" doesn't bother me. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
732
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:23:00 -
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oh and post has been made in room #1 there quick sorry for the delay bunch of stuff going on |
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