A proper swarm build puts out 5000 damage against armor.

I laugh so hard when people say you do not know what your doing. Your stupid. You have a **** build. Yes I expect to 1v1 a tank but he must run with full squads. I should easily run solo.

People like you have destroyed this game. Vehicles are slowly becoming a none factor.

CCP wonders why they see no tank vs tank gameplay well the reason is right here. AV fucks tanks up before they actually have a chance to engage each other. Well it is not tanks that are the problem

I have a tank build that I can go against another tank and last for 35+ seconds. Against AV that build drops in 5 seconds if the AV player is smart. This is not because I suck. Sorry but go to any top corp in the game and any top AV player/Tank player they will be able to account for my skill and my abilities. 2 proto packed AV grenades and a volley of proto swarms am dead.


Sorry but no AV weapon should ever bring down a fully proto fit tank in 1 clip of their weapon. I also agree with tanks not being insanely effective at kililng infantry. But they need to be able to do it well.

That is one shot. And saying you should be retreating when you see swarms. Problem is if you are going to be working with your team you are going to be up in the action. All it takes is for the swarmer to get a high point and it is really easy for them to drop 3 volleys even if you start running when you see them. It takes about 10 seconds to drop all 3 volleys probably. and sometimes ur next corner or hill is alot farther then 10 seconds away to hide behind if they are on high enough vantage point.

Problem is what damage mods give right now I am not fully sure on how they are working but between damage mods and then the 20% damage increase on swarms your able to hit insane alpha damage.

But with a tank ur a sitting duck to all forms of AV other tank. groups of infantry that just need to run AV grenades. we are told to run with full squads to defend our selves. Yet that makes no since because AV can hide on top of buildings and big hills overlooking that battle field very easy and easily kill a tank by themselves.

Sorry ur excuse is stupid. And also I run around with a Scram pistol/nova knifes on my alt I have a 3+ K/D using a scout suit. so Ya side arms work great. That is no excuse.

Proto Swarm Launcher: 330 x 6 = 1980

Direct hit to the bottom rear of the tank: 200% of 1980 = 3960

Explosive damage against Armour: +20% of 3960 = 792 + 3960 = 4752

Then add Damage mods bonuse.

Note: All 6 missiles would have to hit that small sweet spot on the back end of the tank for this to happen. It is like getting a head shot.

Also note that this does not factor in the tanksGÇÖs resistance mods.

Not many people know about the sweat spot. It was found by a guy pointing his weapon at various parts of a friendly tank and looking at the efficacy % that is displayed. The highest if I remember correctly was 200% efficacy when pointing at the lower back of the tank. On the sides there is an increased efficiency near the bottom as well, but less than 200%. Of course we canGÇÖt aim a Swarm Launcher at a specific part of the tank, but judging from some of the complaints in this thread, it sounds like the missiles try for the sweat spot.

Caeli SineDeo does have a valid point. He may overstate it a bit, but he is a tank driver posting in an AV thread, so that is understandable. The problem is not with the Swarm Launcher however. This is simply another case of a weapon being balanced around stuff that is not yet in the game.