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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:22:00 -
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The thing with the flaylock is it's great for cqc as stated in its description.
As for the mass driver again the nerfers are just getting blown up in guess what? Cqc where it shines, when you have mastered it you can hit at medium and long range. Generally the whole nerf thing is from Ar users.
Now because I'm a logi the Ar is no good for me, it's a direct combat weapon which is no good when you have less hp and speed than assault, I do use a scrambler rifle and flaylock pistol when I'm in assault mode (proto amarr logi) but when I'm supporting and defending I use mass driver and flaylock. It's area denial right? so when guys run at me spraying their Ar and strafing I deny them the area in front of me to do so, rock paper scissors right because cqc mass driver and flaylock will always own, rather than chance your luck run to get a bit of distance, if a sniper is on a hill you wouldn't stand and shoot him from out in the open? so stop trying to cqc a mass driver or flaylock. The Ar is not supposed to just be the best at everything and it's very versatile anyway.
The whole nerfing thing has got out of hand, I even wanted the flaylock nerfed but it's good for cqc and that's where people are getting killed by it, it's like moaning the knives have too much range or something stupid like that lol
And also anyone who balances based on pub games just shouldnt , no joke I found it way easier in terms of skill and ttk with my scrambler rifle and scrambler pistol combo because generally targets are not all in cqc. |
Lightning Bolt2
DUST University
Ivy League
44
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:
Some of the questionable gameplay (LAV derby matches, AFK in MCC, etc.) isn't just about balance. Players get bored with the lack of variety, the grind, and bugs like the PSN-disconnect or LAG and it makes you less willing to seriously invest in a match.
Time to bring out PVE and a bounty on mercs system. At this rate, we're all going to get owned in PVE because of all the nerfs.
PVE will be nerfed where its impossible to lose |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:39:00 -
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DARK - IMPULSE wrote:Stop, just stop. The QQ'ers of this game have destroy dust 514 to the point that people does not longer want to play this game anymore. TAC's, HMG's, laser rifles, HAV's, MD's, dropsuits, etc... had been reduced to the point that is completely useless to use them. This nerf has turned dust 514 into some kind of a joke to the point that people would get stuck with spend sp in some class that it used to be good, but it is not anymore.
People have said this about any game that underwent balancing, ever. OMG don't NERF ONLY BUFF. No, balance requires both tools in the toolbox.
Quote:I got stuck with 100 Duvolle TAC's because they are not effective any longer
Give em to me. I love TACs.
Quote:If this continues CCP better give a sp respect every time they do a nerf on any weapon or anything. ... If there is a nerf to the caldari logi suit I want my sp respect because I know that the nerf would make it completely useless.
cry more if you want, but you wont' be getting anything. |
Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:14:00 -
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DARK - IMPULSE wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:I'm guessing you don't like the nerf requests because your happy with a very narrow selection of worthy items, why have skills, just give us all a caldari, shield extenders, regulators, fuse/impact nades and a flaylock...right? Flux grenades and a scramble rifle would finish a caldari logi. Flaylocks just move to the side or a little jump. Get some new skills as a FPS player. Different weapons are there so they fit your PLAY-STYLE, not for you to be happy with them. Like I said before irrational, excessive, unsupported requests for nerfs have caused some weapons to be pretty closed to useless. Or how many laser rifles or MD's you run in pub matches?
Flaylocks and Mass Drivers though moving to the side doesn't help. I get hit every time pretty much. Caldari logi, yes a flux grenade could beat them but the thing is that it's a better suit than the Assaults? People don't use those suits to be Logis like it should be, they use them to be Assault. It's a support suit. The problem with a lot of people asking for a nerf is because they get beat by them. Like the AR, I see it all the time, yes you're going to get beat by it, it's the common weapon most people are going to use it. But the only reason I see them asking for a nerf is "Oh nothing else can kill me the AR is too powerful I can't beat it". That's what happened to the laser rifle. Flaylocks and Mass Drivers can hit you almost everytime, which is bs. They still do too much damage to shield tankers. I can say this because I use the Flaylock myself. I do aim my shots and try not to spam, but I can still hit pretty well if I am spamming. I could tell you about the Logi cars too but I'm sure you've heard em all. There are things that need nerfing, but CCP needs to stop nerfing stuff to the point of being absolute crap. I wanna be in a match where EVERYTHING is being used. Not just one thing because it's the most powerful. |
DARK - IMPULSE
Internal Error.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:18:00 -
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Quote:Flaylocks and Mass Drivers though moving to the side doesn't help.
You are right it doesnt help. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:37:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:hmg needs its rpm lowered...
dont know what is rpm is since i havnt looked at its rpm stats but i can tell u it shoots to fast to be effective..
it seems like a player goes through have the clip to kill a single player...
lowering the rpm mean less ammo is used. and would probably increase its killing efficiency .
this would not be a nerf.
as i have used the std hmg for a few days.
and if anything it lacks ammo capacity....
Are you insane?
The RoF is fine! The hit detection needs to be fixed, and the spin up time needs to be adjusted. It needs longer optimal range and less dispersion.
I have used HMGs since I started in Chromosome and I can say with 100% certainty that you have no idea what you are talking about. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
rise of legion
270
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:58:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Today even seen the start of the nerf the jet threads and we dont even have jets yet .
To quote a wise professor "I dont want to live on this planet any more" is pretty much how I feel now.
There are plenty of other places to live in EVE.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
208
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:33:00 -
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NERF THIS THREAD! |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:36:00 -
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DARK - IMPULSE wrote:Quote:Flaylocks and Mass Drivers though moving to the side doesn't help. You are right it doesnt help.
Engage a MD in close range, they'll usually kill themselves faster than they'll kill you. Engage a Flaylock at mid range or beyond. Getting above both is also effective. |
sxwr
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:55:00 -
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Benari Kalidima wrote:I use tactical assault rifles (glu) all the time, and it works fine? HMG is also fine except for the range which is being fixed for all weapons. Laser rifles are pretty bad though, yes. HAV's? I often get killed to see their K/D ratio being at 20/0. If anything they should be made cheaper, and the gap between cheaper tanks and more expensive tanks should be made smaller, so cheaper tanks actually are worth it, and not dying to 2 swarm launcher shots. MD's aren't useless, but certainly not good enough.
theres nothing wrong with a good tanker going 20 and 0 but when you lose a tank in back to back games there lies a problem
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