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Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 655	Posted - 2013.06.17 18:09:00 - [1] - Quote Well, maybe if this game was put on PS4, they could bring back the original engine and maybe, just maybe it wouldn't melt the PS4 like it melted the PS3. The original build of this game was really awesome. Moving MCCs etc. etc. So I don't know if I agree with your statement.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 658	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:02:00 - [2] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: If this released on PS4, DUST would be dead in a month. Opening up to the nextgen market would be the worst thing for DUST. Keep the market tight, if anything tighten the market more and move DUST from ps3 to ps vita exclusive. Cuz then less people would know how terrible it is and it might get more sympathy for being a VITA title. LOL, Troll.... But you are right, if Dust went PS4 exclusive then it would go head to head with Planetside 2. Thats a well entrenched Free to Play game of a similar genre. I like Dust, but I'm not sure how well it would fair in a heads up battle, especially given the PS4 is slated to run PS2 at Ultra settings which even my computer won't do.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 661	Posted - 2013.06.17 20:23:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: L2R, As long as the PS3 client exists there is no advantages given to the ps4 version that the ps3 can enjoy other than higher graphics, but things like destructible environments or massive player counts or newer physics cannot be implemented because both the PS3 and PS4 versions of Dust 514 must be signing the same tune. I don't know why they would have to sing the same tune. Lets get realistic here. If they want Dust in 10 years, then it will be a PS4 game. Why should they waste their time and effort developing the same game PS3/PS4 when they could just segregate. its already known that Planetside 2 PS4 players will not be able to play with PC players. All CCP has to do is divide up the game for PS3 and PS4 players and its the same thing. PS3 can have factional warfare while CCP works on PC for PS4. Then when its time to phase the PS3 out you already have working code and advanced based for the PS4 and not a bunch of old junk code. We see this all the time in EVE, they talk about old junk code that no one wants to touch, why are they doing the same thing now?
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 661	Posted - 2013.06.17 20:28:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Same Universe, we don't divide our player base. If there was an Xbox 360, PC and PS3, PS4 and Xbox One Versions of Dust 514, they all must be signing the same tune. That's not a true statement at all. EVE uses the Trinity Engine and Dust uses the Unreal engine, two totally different games and engines, same universe. We are already segregated, EVE in Space, Dust on the ground, Why not Dust PS3 in High Sec and Dust PS4 in Low sec and Null Sec. Since they can already get 2 seperate engines to interact, I don't see why there should be some amazing problem at getting 3 engines to interact.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 661	Posted - 2013.06.17 20:41:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Carbon RESTful API is the only sheet music both Eve and Dust 514 has to sing together, but all versions of Eve (linux, PC, MAC) and all theoretical versions of Dust 514 (PC, PS3, PS4, X360, XBONE, OUYA, Steambox ect. ect.) must be singing their own singular tune. Exactly, and thats what I mean. They are going to waste time dulling down the PS4 version to make it match the PS3 version, or they are going to just not do the PS4 version and develope the PS3 version. Either way, alot of time is being wasted on a system that is going to be dead soon. The PS4 is cheap, $399 is really not a bad deal. PS3 when it first came out was a HUGE jump at like $499. After 7 years and inflation the new system is even cheaper then the old system was. The conversion rate is going to be staggeringly quick compared to PS2 -> PS3 Covnersion. Dust is going to be collecting dust as the PS4 comes through. I will be owning one as soon as I can, though I'm not going to spend $5,000 because Sony didn't ship enough like last time, but once they stock back up I will get one. Not that you could change anything, but CCP is flushing $$ down the drain in the form of coding and development time. With how much of a performance boost the PS4 has, I'm not sure you could really salvage anything from one system to another. It would be like playing the Wii on your 62" plasma television, it looks like crap.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 662	Posted - 2013.06.17 21:06:00 - [6] - Quote Deranged Disaster wrote: I really can't comprehend why CCP don't want to push it to the PS4 yet. Unreal engine 4 is coming out which is easier than ever to develop on and much more powerful along with a console that is easier to develop on aswell that does not have the boundaries PS3 has. CCP will not have to worry about clogging up the RAM of the console, pushing the graphics too much or making the processor burn out because the PS4 will be able to handle them. I don't think the devs are wasting time developing for the PS3 atm but if a year has passed and it's not ported over the playerbase will tremendously drop and it will end up being, at best, lower than 1k players on a daily basis UNLESS the devs roll up their sleeves and make this summer full of content that isn't dissapointing us. Yea, thats what I am saying. Dust is fun, but its definately not AAA class. Updates are coming very very slowly and not fixing what needs to be fixed. At the rate stuff is being fixed, its already basically to late for the PS3. Because we are looking at July before we get another attempt at fixing the latency, hit detection, cursor movement... All the stuff that basically makes the "Core" of gameplay.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 670	Posted - 2013.06.18 12:27:00 - [7] - Quote 5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote: I have a PS3 and a PS4. It's so difficult to choose which to play! Failtroll, But you bring a good point. Probably in March (When the price for PS4 falls from $5,000 on ebay because they didn't ship enough) I am going to hook up my PS4, I am going to unhook my PS3 once I get tired of Dark Souls 2 farming red ghost and blue newbs. And the PS3 will probably never be hooked up again. I am not a legacy gamer, I don't bust out my Atari or my Genesis or my Commodore 64 for nostalgia. They were fun while they lasted, but when the gaming industry was in its infancy it was in its infancy, now that its growing up we put away the baby toys.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 683	Posted - 2013.06.20 13:38:00 - [8] - Quote 5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote: (Are we really still talking about this? Talking about how aiming works in an FPS game, in 2013? This is beyond hopeless) This basically. I mean honestly, its 2013.. I pay for everything I get, I don't pirate. But enough is enough. CCP has millions of dollars, take a couple thousand and just buy every good FPS ever made and then "STEAL" all the good stuff out of those games and put them into Dust. Its like playing Grand Theft Auto 4, the driving in that game was Terrible. How can we have awesome games like GT and Forza and then someone puts out a crappy game that takes all the stuff we as a race have learned and throws it out the window. Do people not understand the concept of building on success?
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 684	Posted - 2013.06.20 13:56:00 - [9] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: Its like playing Grand Theft Auto 4, the driving in that game was Terrible. How can we have awesome games like GT and Forza and then someone puts out a crappy game that takes all the stuff we as a race have learned and throws it out the window. Do people not understand the concept of building on success? Just to play devil's advocate, if CCP was one of those 'build on success' companies, EVE would be a lot more like WOW, and the current playerbase of EVE would not be playing it. WOW has good points, you don't get a fanbase of over 10 million by putting out a piece of crap. The idea is to find what you want to do in the market, look for market leaders, find out what makes their games a resounding success and how you want to be different and innovative and make your game. WOW is a leader in the MMO world that is now suffering from oversaturation and a dissallusioned player base and instead of learning from their own mistakes they decided they would make Pandas and started their death spiral.

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