DUST Search - Role of an HMG Heavy?

D legendary hero wrote:

logi bros, always are welcome. but the heavy shouldnt need to be right on a logi or instantly die. if that were the case, they should make it easier to be heavy by keeping it the same but drastically reducing skill costs, because this is an awfully large amount of skil points, ISK, adnd time to put SOLELY in the hands of a logi.

point being a logi is supposed to suppliment or rather compliment the heavies abilities not baby sit him.

right now running in a squad but without a logi makes no sense for a heavy, in fact running periood makes no sense. defense becomes possible when a logi is around, but its strange,

anyother suit can move around without the aid of other suits. the aid from other suits enhances their abilities but it is not necesary for their individual sucess.

what i am saying is, a team is not just a parasytic relationship, an assortment of weaklings who desprately need each other to survive.

a real team is a combination of self sufficeint members that on their own are powerful, but when combined are enhanced.


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Bonesaw Jeff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 0	Posted - 2013.06.19 09:04:00 - [1] - Quote What are you even talking about bro? Have you even played as a heavy? Maybe you should take your insane 5 million SP and squad up with some real players. 6 pages deep in this terrible thread and the only logi mention is asinine whining about Cal Logi shield tanking? I'm a Gallente logi dedicated to support. I roll around with a standard/adv heavy and we straight crush fools as a tandem. I have a core repair tool for my proto PC fit but the adv triage tool works fine too. Toss down some triage hives, maybe some ammo hives, and nobody is moving us from our position. In PC two heavies and two logis can pretty much hold down the entire city by themselves once entrenched. Shield tanked assaults with ARs? That's why I'm packing flux nades. I got my fatties' backs. Point defense, bitches. Learn to play and take your GUN GAME to the next level.
Bonesaw Jeff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 0	Posted - 2013.06.19 09:31:00 - [2] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: logi bros, always are welcome. but the heavy shouldnt need to be right on a logi or instantly die. if that were the case, they should make it easier to be heavy by keeping it the same but drastically reducing skill costs, because this is an awfully large amount of skil points, ISK, adnd time to put SOLELY in the hands of a logi. point being a logi is supposed to suppliment or rather compliment the heavies abilities not baby sit him. right now running in a squad but without a logi makes no sense for a heavy, in fact running periood makes no sense. defense becomes possible when a logi is around, but its strange, anyother suit can move around without the aid of other suits. the aid from other suits enhances their abilities but it is not necesary for their individual sucess. what i am saying is, a team is not just a parasytic relationship, an assortment of weaklings who desprately need each other to survive. a real team is a combination of self sufficeint members that on their own are powerful, but when combined are enhanced. That's my point, heavies are pretty good on their own and with a logi and squad support they become monsters. Pretty much all of my SP is tied up in skills that are directly focused on aiding my team in a myriad of ways, so I'd hope I understand how a team is supposed to work. I've also seen heavies shred masses of reds solo, both attacking and defending, so I really don't know what all the complaining is about. I was a heavy for all of chromosome as well, so I have experience as a fatlord as well. I don't miss not being able to jump over railing, let me tell you.
Bonesaw Jeff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1	Posted - 2013.06.19 17:55:00 - [3] - Quote Senorita Amarxist wrote: HMG seems just fine. Especially after having seen Aurra's 6.1 KD ratio video in a PC match I find it hard to believe it's as bad as some people believe it is. With proper support and good aim, it seems to do damn well at the role it was intended to be. Yeah. In that video we aren't even healing him the entire time. A good heavy doesn't need to be babysit, they know when to step back behind cover and let those shields regen or get a quick heal. If the enemy wants to rush in and vault a box or whatever, then they are going to get a face full of bullets from the heavy or the logi, probably both. If they want to stay back and plink from a distance, well, they aren't taking the point then are they?