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Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 11:37:00 -
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We need proper spawning mechanics. Cloak doesn't save you from anything, if you spawn near enemies, you have to move to get away and then the cloak disappears anyway. It only gives you a chance to see your surroundings for a few seconds, but if you spawn in the middle of a fight, or next to a bunch of enemies, you're going to die anyway. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
370
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Posted - 2013.06.16 11:43:00 -
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Don't move your feet, only look around with your waist.
You should be good then, IIRC, you only decloak from time or moving your feet (At least, I know I've been able to move at the waist without breaking cloak). |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 11:47:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Don't move your feet, only look around with your waist.
You should be good then, IIRC, you only decloak from time or moving your feet (At least, I know I've been able to move at the waist without breaking cloak).
I know, but how is it going to help you, if there's 4 enemies where you spawn? At that point you have two options:
- Wait till the timer runs out, and pray that they go away
- Find the best direction to run in
Either way, you're most likely going to die. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
447
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Posted - 2013.06.16 11:50:00 -
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Cloak is very helpful, and honestly if you're spawning near four guys, you didn't look at your map at all. The CRU'S will scan and pick up enemies i think 30 meters away. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 11:52:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Cloak is very helpful, and honestly if you're spawning near four guys, you didn't look at your map at all. The CRU'S will scan and pick up enemies i think 30 meters away.
You don't spawn from CRU's in ambush though. It's mostly in ambush it's an issue. |
Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves
RUST415
4
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Posted - 2013.06.16 12:08:00 -
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Did you ever consider that ambush is just a horrible game mode where all your suits go to waste and there is barely any teamwork included? Besides if you're having trouble spawning in ambush you do realize you have access to a piece of equient called a droplink which is very useful... Stop waiting for people to solve your problems when you have the capacity in-game to fix it yourself. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 12:18:00 -
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Echoist wrote:Did you ever consider that ambush is just a horrible game mode where all your suits go to waste and there is barely any teamwork included? Besides if you're having trouble spawning in ambush you do realize you have access to a piece of equient called a droplink which is very useful... Stop waiting for people to solve your problems when you have the capacity in-game to fix it yourself.
I only play ambush when my friends aren't playing, and it's nice to have a gamemode that doesn't require much teamwork.
As for droplinks, I often find people are very likely to camp them. Besides I use a nanite injector instead. We shouldn't excuse incomplete gameplay mechanics just because there's something we can do to solve it temporarily. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
268
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Posted - 2013.06.16 13:39:00 -
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Did I miss the update when cloaking was released? |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 13:43:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Did I miss the update when cloaking was released?
It's in uprising :)
Edit: I mean you're cloaked when you're spawned, that's what I'm talking about. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
268
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Posted - 2013.06.16 13:52:00 -
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Oh, I never knew that. I thought it was to look fancy... |
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
96
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:00:00 -
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Spawn with a starter or BPO Fitting and try to have fun instead of playing for your K/D. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:02:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Spawn with a starter or BPO Fitting and try to have fun instead of playing for your K/D.
No matter what fit or k/d I'm going for, it's frustrating spawning in a ball of enemies. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
96
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:09:00 -
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I find it challenging. I'll try to take take some with me or manage to escape.
Prime those grenades. I have yet to try with remote explosives. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:31:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:I find it challenging. I'll try to take take some with me or manage to escape.
Prime those grenades. I have yet to try with remote explosives.
I can't use grenades because other faulty gameplay mechanics are forcing me to use AV grenades. But at least they're working on that to my knowledge. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1622
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:41:00 -
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Yesterday, I unintentionally ran over someone that was cloaked |
DeadlyAztec11
Strong-Arm
484
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Posted - 2013.06.16 15:00:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Yesterday, I unintentionally ran over someone that was cloaked
Happens way too often, why do we get spawned in the middle of streets anyway?
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Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.06.16 15:01:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Yesterday, I unintentionally ran over someone that was cloaked Happens way too often, why do we get spawned in the middle of streets anyway?
Exactly, spawn locations are often an issue too. And that should be easy to fix. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1623
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Posted - 2013.06.16 15:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Yesterday, I unintentionally ran over someone that was cloaked Happens way too often, why do we get spawned in the middle of streets anyway?
Well, actually, that was an uplink that I drove over
But I DID repeatedly keep respawning in the exact same place that I died at in an ambush |
Tankin Tarkus
Quafe Runners
41
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Posted - 2013.06.16 23:38:00 -
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someone camping a CRU/uplink? use the cloaking to spot your targets then go with a cheap shotgun suit and give them a reason to move on..... even the all mighty CalLogi dies within 3 clean shots of the militia shotgun 2 if u dont mind spending a pretty penny on a damage mod or 2 |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.06.17 00:05:00 -
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Tankin Tarkus wrote:someone camping a CRU/uplink? use the cloaking to spot your targets then go with a cheap shotgun suit and give them a reason to move on..... even the all mighty CalLogi dies within 3 clean shots of the militia shotgun 2 if u dont mind spending a pretty penny on a damage mod or 2
I might try that, though I'm not specced for it :) |
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DeadlyAztec11
Strong-Arm
494
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Posted - 2013.06.17 01:49:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Yesterday, I unintentionally ran over someone that was cloaked Happens way too often, why do we get spawned in the middle of streets anyway? Well, actually, that was an uplink that I drove over But I DID repeatedly keep respawning in the exact same place that I died at in an ambush
Today I spawned in (my first spawn) and there was like the entire enemy team 15 meters behind me. The only other guy next to me was a scout and distracted them; I made a break for it.
Funny as hell, running down the hill at my squad mates with 10+ guys on my tail. All the while I'm yelling "GET INSIDE! GET INSIDE!". They were like "Why?". Then they see the guys come over the hill at them and they were like, "OH SH-" and then they ran inside. Props to the LAV driver that got me out of there.
At the end of the day, I still got away with my nuts, Cashews to be specific. |
Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
17
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Posted - 2013.06.17 06:00:00 -
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I'm pretty sure target intel shows up for cloaked enemies.
IE. if you aim where a cloaked enemy is your crosshair will turn red.
And just FYI:
-change weapons (or equipment) breaks cloak,
-charging scrambler rifle does NOT break cloak.  |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
468
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Posted - 2013.06.17 08:26:00 -
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The cloak is not there to help you to survive/win a bad spawn location, but rather
CLOAK SAVES YOU FROM DYING BEFORE YOU HAVE LOADED THE GAME
Believe me, the number of times you've practically spawned in in a bleeding body has radically dropped, as is the time you've gotten the free kills loading bullets into a new twiching puppet just standing there. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.06.17 08:36:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:The cloak is not there to help you to survive/win a bad spawn location, but rather
CLOAK SAVES YOU FROM DYING BEFORE YOU HAVE LOADED THE GAME.
No that isn't true. The dev's did it to avoid spawn camping. |
Wolfica
Planetary Response Organization
49
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Posted - 2013.06.17 10:27:00 -
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if you look at where people will spawn on a DU it will give you the target Intel. I camped one for a while tell it ran out and the last guy was a heavy and he chased me off. but you can still shoot some one when they are cloaked. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
642
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Posted - 2013.06.17 11:44:00 -
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I think the easiest solution to your problem is..
Don't die.
Then you don't have to worry about spawning into enemies. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:51:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:I think the easiest solution to your problem is..
Don't die.
Then you don't have to worry about spawning into enemies.
Are you joking? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1967
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:03:00 -
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Benari Kalidima wrote:Echoist wrote:Did you ever consider that ambush is just a horrible game mode where all your suits go to waste and there is barely any teamwork included? Besides if you're having trouble spawning in ambush you do realize you have access to a piece of equient called a droplink which is very useful... Stop waiting for people to solve your problems when you have the capacity in-game to fix it yourself. I only play ambush when my friends aren't playing, and it's nice to have a gamemode that doesn't require much teamwork. As for droplinks, I often find people are very likely to camp them. Besides I use a nanite injector instead. We shouldn't excuse incomplete gameplay mechanics just because there's something we can do to solve it temporarily.
I still love it when people talk about liking ambush because they don't have to work with anyone.
In a heavily team-based game.
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Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force
18
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:13:00 -
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Step 1: Pick a drop uplink you know is being camped
Step 2: spawn in with a plasma cannon, hold cloak
Step 3: Make the proto heavy standing there regret it.
Step 4: Run like a little girl
If step 4 doesn't work out for you, go back to step 1, and hope they're too dumb to shoot the uplink. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1639
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:35:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Yesterday, I unintentionally ran over someone that was cloaked Happens way too often, why do we get spawned in the middle of streets anyway? Well, actually, that was an uplink that I drove over But I DID repeatedly keep respawning in the exact same place that I died at in an ambush Today I spawned in (my first spawn) and there was like the entire enemy team 15 meters behind me. The only other guy next to me was a scout and distracted them; I made a break for it. Funny as hell, running down the hill at my squad mates with 10+ guys on my tail. All the while I'm yelling "GET INSIDE! GET INSIDE!". They were like "Why?". Then they see the guys come over the hill at them and they were like, "OH SH-" and then they ran inside. Props to the LAV driver that got me out of there. At the end of the day, I still got away with my nuts, Cashews to be specific.
One battle, I didn't spawn with my team- I spawned with the enemy team |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1639
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:35:00 -
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Garth Mandra wrote:I'm pretty sure target intel shows up for cloaked enemies. IE. if you aim where a cloaked enemy is your crosshair will turn red. And just FYI: -change weapons (or equipment) breaks cloak, -charging scrambler rifle does NOT break cloak.
Charging nova knives also doesn't break cloak |
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