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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:00:00 -
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So what's up with this panic mode? You guys waited for ages to move from Chromosome to Uprising but you can't wait one month and a half to get 1.2 patch? What's up with that? They promise you 1 month updates after 1.2 and yet you are so impatient like a kid in a toy store that doesn't know what else to do by all the surrounding shiny stuff.
Why do you "demand" patch notes? You already know they will publish them a few days before patch goes live, they did that always.
They have CPM now, CPM probably already knows patch notes and is discussing stuff with CCP.
They are doing weekly updates and they are clearly covering all concerns and bugs and feedback you gave.
So, why not chill the hell down and let them work and less useless posting and more playing?
Is it because E3 came out and you are all excited for PS4? Let them work on PS3 and then transition to PS4 in time, why rush things that don't need to be rushed?
And why keep discussing online numbers over and over again? No other game gives you online numbers and for sure other fpses had even lower numbers at some point in time - you just never saw them in your life.
More than enough transparency is already here, but you clearly need ccp to be invisible to you.
Or does that sound too logical? |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
7
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:04:00 -
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What I want to know is since when do Amarr raise so many good questions lately? Usually you guys are dumb kittens, today? I find myself actually agreeing with 95% of your rhetoric. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. |
Golda Go
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:05:00 -
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No they should stop working on the PS3 version NOW and begin working on the PS4 NOW. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
146
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:07:00 -
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Golda Go wrote:No they should stop working on the PS3 version NOW and begin working on the PS4 NOW. Yes, because it is so easy to disband development on one console and move to different architecture.
There is no longer porting, PS4 is a PC. They will get there when they get there. Your idea is silly and you should feel silly for suggesting such thing in the first place. |
WhiteMage7322
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:10:00 -
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I wouldn't mind CCP do what Square Enix did with Final Fantasy XIV. It can be a second chance for them to rebuild whatever they have to without trying to rush everything to make some people happy. |
Modi Von Asatru
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:12:00 -
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Sorry, I don't panic (personaly). My First account just banned of the forum randomly because i answer to an other players.
I unstall Dust514, when GM start to delete random posts, they admit the defeat for this game.
I stop trust in Dust. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:17:00 -
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Modi Von Asatru wrote:Sorry, I don't panic (personaly). My First account just banned of the forum randomly because i answer to an other players.
I unstall Dust514, when GM start to delete random posts, they admit the defeat for this game.
I stop trust in Dust. Ah you are the guy that posted "it will be better when PS2 comes to PS4 ;)" right? :D I believe that is offtopic posting (forum rules forbid that). You probably got deleted because of that. And also, don't post like this, they will delete this too. It is discussion of moderation action :D File a ticket if you want to discuss that.
Anyway!
They are not focusing on "serving everyone" they just moved to another format of updating the game which is 1 patch per month. Sounds good to me tbh. Would rather wait for an update that short instead of 6 months. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
630
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:22:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:So what's up with this panic mode? You guys waited for ages to move from Chromosome to Uprising but you can't wait one month and a half to get 1.2 patch? What's up with that? They promise you 1 month updates after 1.2 and yet you are so impatient like a kid in a toy store that doesn't know what else to do by all the surrounding shiny stuff.
Why do you "demand" patch notes? You already know they will publish them a few days before patch goes live, they did that always.
They have CPM now, CPM probably already knows patch notes and is discussing stuff with CCP.
They are doing weekly updates and they are clearly covering all concerns and bugs and feedback you gave.
So, why not chill the hell down and let them work and less useless posting and more playing?
Is it because E3 came out and you are all excited for PS4? Let them work on PS3 and then transition to PS4 in time, why rush things that don't need to be rushed?
And why keep discussing online numbers over and over again? No other game gives you online numbers and for sure other fpses had even lower numbers at some point in time - you just never saw them in your life.
More than enough transparency is already here, but you clearly need ccp to be invisible to you.
Or does that sound too logical? uprising was a major let down and all they stuff promised for 1.2(which now might only be 30% of now) are not impressive at all and the "rapid fire" updates stand out as huge troll with the words "with close relation with CPM and the players" sound just like stealth patches that one maybe two people said about getting stuck in some remote place or slight graphic error way out in the red zone fix once a month for like 3 months which really is like nothing at all, that's the normal for games to fix in a much shorter time span. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
151
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:33:00 -
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ladwar wrote: uprising was a major let down and all they stuff promised for 1.2(which now might only be 30% of now) are not impressive at all and the "rapid fire" updates stand out as huge troll with the words "with close relation with CPM and the players" sound just like stealth patches that one maybe two people said about getting stuck in some remote place or slight graphic error way out in the red zone fix once a month for like 3 months which really is like nothing at all, that's the normal for games to fix in a much shorter time span.
You seem a bit mad because they aren't delivering "jesus features". When did BF3 or any other shooter deliver 1 patch per month update to their game that introduced new (Free) content? We are getting so much in 1.2 that other dev would put $25 price tag at least to it, but you seem to be demanding full blown new game with the new patch instead of an incremental updates that keep coming. |
Golda Go
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:42:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Golda Go wrote:No they should stop working on the PS3 version NOW and begin working on the PS4 NOW. Yes, because it is so easy to disband development on one console and move to different architecture. There is no longer porting, PS4 is a PC. They will get there when they get there. Your idea is silly and you should feel silly for suggesting such thing in the first place.
lolwhut When Sony announced the PS4 at $400 they literally killed the PS3. The priced is so accessible even poor people can buy this for Christmas. Any game being developed for the PS3 is a waste of time and money. Seriously ikr... also I smeel famboi in u. |
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DeadlyAztec11
Strong-Arm
482
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:42:00 -
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What panic mode? You mean all those guys promoting PS2? Their annoying, but that is about it.
Personally, I have been busy telling what NOT to do. Like back in Chromosome I was telling them not to over buff the TAR. When it comes to buffs, less is sometimes more. I have also been busy trying to get fellow AV players to unite and defend our class. I would suggest that Snipers, Shotgunners and Nova Knifers do the same thing. Drivers and Pilots, as well as heavies, have been doing it for a long time now, so they get a lot of attention and support. Thing is, we can't just let them sway CCP, the rest of us should have an equal say too. First step is creating awarness, second is support. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
109
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:44:00 -
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Golda Go wrote:No they should stop working on the PS3 version NOW and begin working on the PS4 NOW.
and remove lav's buff heavies remake my op tac so its op again give me respec (the list goes on) |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
289
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:46:00 -
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ladwar wrote: uprising was a major let down and all they stuff promised for 1.2(which now might only be 30% of now) are not impressive at all and the "rapid fire" updates stand out as huge troll with the words "with close relation with CPM and the players" sound just like stealth patches that one maybe two people said about getting stuck in some remote place or slight graphic error way out in the red zone fix once a month for like 3 months which really is like nothing at all, that's the normal for games to fix in a much shorter time span.
At least wait to see how it goes before bashing it.
There's enough things already in the game to criticize, why engage in preemptive bashing? |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1361
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:47:00 -
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"Hey baby I swear I'll get you something nice for our anniversary! "
Anniversary comes...
"I got you a Scout LAV Do you like it babe!"
"um... turret speed? well this is how any other boy friend would treat me so I guess it's ok. "
"Oh, btw baby, I'm going to need to you grind for like 3 months to use the Scout LAV." |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1363
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Posted - 2013.06.16 06:57:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Golda Go wrote:No they should stop working on the PS3 version NOW and begin working on the PS4 NOW. Yes, because it is so easy to disband development on one console and move to different architecture. There is no longer porting, PS4 is a PC. They will get there when they get there. Your idea is silly and you should feel silly for suggesting such thing in the first place. unreal3 would deploy to PS4 with no changes btw
just 8gb of ram instead of 512, and 1080p instead of 720p |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:35:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:So what's up with this panic mode? You guys waited for ages to move from Chromosome to Uprising but you can't wait one month and a half to get 1.2 patch? What's up with that? They promise you 1 month updates after 1.2 and yet you are so impatient like a kid in a toy store that doesn't know what else to do by all the surrounding shiny stuff.
I can wait a year for additional content like vehicles and new dropsuits and whatnot, that's cool.
I am not unrealistic, I don't expect this game to magically transmute overnight into the magic love child of Crysis graphics, TF2 map and gameplay design, EVE depth, WoW breadth and PS2 sized battles. We get it.
However, I'm not going to wait for more than a few weeks for fixes to hit detection, ballistics mechanics, terrain hitches, horrid movement, matchmaking and absolutely basic stuff that makes it unplayable as an FPS. If 1.2 doesn't address these truly fundamental problems I'll stop playing. I play many other FPS, I don't get bored of playing the same map in TF2 or CoD over and over because its the gameplay that matters. New maps and gear and stuff are nice but not the key issue.
I might come back in a 6-12 months to check out, I might not. There are too many properly built, fun games on the market playable TODAY to keep banging one's head against glitches. A game is meant to be fun, not some Sisyphus-esque punishment. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
195
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Posted - 2013.06.18 05:14:00 -
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Just one month after the release, and all the "old school" (bittervets?) people can't be patient for 2 more weeks :) It is amusing to watch how many forum warriors come up and think that ranting can speed up the development process. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
253
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Posted - 2013.06.18 05:23:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Golda Go wrote:No they should stop working on the PS3 version NOW and begin working on the PS4 NOW. Yes, because it is so easy to disband development on one console and move to different architecture. There is no longer porting, PS4 is a PC. They will get there when they get there. Your idea is silly and you should feel silly for suggesting such thing in the first place. So a smart move is now silly? Ill be waiting on the ps4 for dust to come over |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2013.06.18 06:55:00 -
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its becuase a lot of people were barely hanging on until uprising and it was some what of a let down, so now they are running out of steam for this game. At least thats how I felt and why I have gonw on hiatus for the past few weeks.
also add in the worries that its in release and all the other games that on the PS4 that are looking a lot better right now and you have a bunch of people that don't want to abandon a game that they see the potential in and spent a lot of time on, but feel like its destined to fail.
thats not so much my veiw but CCP does have its work cut out for it. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
197
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Posted - 2013.06.18 07:02:00 -
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Golda Go wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:Golda Go wrote:No they should stop working on the PS3 version NOW and begin working on the PS4 NOW. Yes, because it is so easy to disband development on one console and move to different architecture. There is no longer porting, PS4 is a PC. They will get there when they get there. Your idea is silly and you should feel silly for suggesting such thing in the first place. lolwhut When Sony announced the PS4 at $400 they literally killed the PS3. The priced is so accessible even poor people can buy this for Christmas. Any game being developed for the PS3 is a waste of time and money. Seriously ikr... also I smeel famboi in u. Maybe in the developed countries.... |
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Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
5
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Posted - 2013.06.18 07:47:00 -
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The tears in this thread satiate my thirst. |
Felix Faraday
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:06:00 -
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Quote:You seem a bit mad because they aren't delivering "jesus features". When did BF3 or any other shooter deliver 1 patch per month update to their game that introduced new (Free) content? We are getting so much in 1.2 that other dev would put $25 price tag at least to it, but you seem to be demanding full blown new game with the new patch instead of an incremental updates that keep coming.
Amazing how wanting at the very least bug fixes has turned into "jesus features".
It's one month after release, why do my Dropship turrets still hit my own ship?
It's one month after release, why do injectors barely work 50% of the time?
You say we are getting so much in 1.2? Are we really now? Do you know for sure? Didn't another DEV post somewhere saying that all that was showcased won't actually happen right away at 1.2? The most to expect is a new gun, 2 suits and maybe some modules? What about bug fixes? What about balance for vehicles.
The problem is people's optimism and faith in CCP is starting to run thin. 1.2 could be a godsend, with tons of fixes and new features that revitalizes the game. Or it could be a small fart of content directed at the players with a promise of "more soon", which would be the nail in the coffin for some of us. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
504
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:09:00 -
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Confirming that the more we post, the less they work.
The game is released now. Sorry if criticism hurts your feelings OP. |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
100
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:17:00 -
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The problem is we don't need shiny stuff atm, what we really need is balance.
Dropships are f**** right now, just like MD's and LR's. Nanite Injectors are broken. We have Uplinks slipping into buildings.
We have snipers sitting in the MCC. And We have Logi LAV's with more HP than some tanks.
THIS is the stuff which needs work, this is where the focus should be. New shiny stuff won't change major ingame problems.
I'm not saying CCP is doing nothing, just saying the focus is on the wrong stuff. |
howard sanchez
DUST University Ivy League
559
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Posted - 2013.06.18 15:32:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Just one month after the release, and all the "old school" (bittervets?) people can't be patient for 2 more weeks :) It is amusing to watch how many forum warriors come up and think that ranting can speed up the development process. 2 weeks for you but over a year for some of us.
I get it. The majority of dust players feel a lot of this stuff is new and players complaining on forums look impatient and 'entitled' to you.
This is not the case. We have persevered through weeks, months and for many, over a year to see DUST where it is now.
And when we are honest, a lot of us can admit that DUST is in an incredibly better state than a year ago.
It's the communication from CCP that is at the core of a lot ( or at least my own) of players angst. And, yes, when compared to the average gaming company, CCP does a good job of talking to its players.
But I am not comparing CCP to other companies. Iam comparing CCP to the standard they've set for themselves.
They promise info, feedback and communication but we often get the sense that there is too much Soon and not enough when. Too many Dev blogs being written and none delivered. And too many reassurances of info to come about what's ahead without results.
To be honest, I vacillate between hardcore support of CCP and thier efforts and rage at thier lack of promised info.
That's my issue. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1387
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Posted - 2013.06.19 01:18:00 -
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Medical Crash wrote:The tears in this thread satiate my thirst. You must be able to drink a lot of tears. Maybe you're a fish. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1387
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Posted - 2013.06.19 01:21:00 -
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People are mad because everything released in the last build after we waited and gave 6 months of feedback had ZERO content and ZERO balance changed based on player feedback.
I can think of no mmo other than than dust that gives no heads up on future balance changes and new weapons/suits/skill changes without a months notice or more so they can change direction based on player feedback instead of getting feedback after it's released and then working backwards.
It's wastes our time.
It's wastes developer time. |
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