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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:03:00 -
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This also applies to DUST nuts because I don't know the actual distances and such not  (I have to leave, but I'll update this thread when I get home)
If you jump from the MCC and don't activate your inertia dampeners, how much force will the ground hit you with? |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD
Shadow of the Apocalypse
2
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:08:00 -
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Force (newtons)= mass (kg) x acceleration (aka gravity)
Plug and chug
Now ccp it would be cool to store that energy minus entropy and then use it to jump or sprint like a supper clone until said enervy is gone.
Is that a bird is that a plane no.....
Its super clone!
Able to leep tall buildings in a single bound
Faster than a sppeding lav... |
Lord Falek Grange
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:09:00 -
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I think we'd have to know merc mass and planet mass. |
Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:10:00 -
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Heavy dropsuit weight, including person ~ 250kg.
Height of the drop from MCC ~ 100m.
Gravitational Acceleration=??? (lets assume 9.82 m/s^2).
Input these parameters into: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/flobi.html
Average impact force: 2450000 N = 2,45 MN = LOL |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:11:00 -
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BLKDG wrote:Force (newtons)= mass (kg) x acceleration (aka gravity)
Plug and chug
Acceleration doesn't account for gravity in that equation... That is talking about acceleration in general.
The formula for gravity, weight and mass is: Weight = Mass x Gravity |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:11:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Heavy dropsuit weight, including person ~ 250kg. Height of the drop from MCC ~ 100m. Gravitational Acceleration=??? (lets assume 9.82 m/s^2). Input these parameters into: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/flobi.htmlAverage impact force: 124950000 N = 124,95 MN = LOL
Yeah, because they are so on a planet with 9.82 gravitational field strength... -_-
Plus, inertia dampener. |
Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:14:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Heavy dropsuit weight, including person ~ 250kg. Height of the drop from MCC ~ 100m. Gravitational Acceleration=??? (lets assume 9.82 m/s^2). Input these parameters into: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/flobi.htmlAverage impact force: 124950000 N = 124,95 MN = LOL Yeah, because they are so on a planet with 9.82 gravitational field strength... -_- Plus, inertia dampener.
Was getting some errors in the calculation there. However 9.82 m/s^2 is not a bad assumption, CCP has stated several times that we are on "earth like" planets currently, as opposed to gas, lava or plasma planets. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:16:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Heavy dropsuit weight, including person ~ 250kg. Height of the drop from MCC ~ 100m. Gravitational Acceleration=??? (lets assume 9.82 m/s^2). Input these parameters into: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/flobi.htmlAverage impact force: 2450000 N = 2,45 MN = LOL
Furthermore that equation only takes velocity into account, NOT acceleration. You have to work out the final velocity... |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:17:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Heavy dropsuit weight, including person ~ 250kg. Height of the drop from MCC ~ 100m. Gravitational Acceleration=??? (lets assume 9.82 m/s^2). Input these parameters into: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/flobi.htmlAverage impact force: 124950000 N = 124,95 MN = LOL Yeah, because they are so on a planet with 9.82 gravitational field strength... -_- Plus, inertia dampener. Was getting some errors in the calculation there. However 9.82 m/s^2 is not a bad assumption, CCP has stated several times that we are on "earth like" planets currently, as opposed to gas, lava or plasma planets.
'Earth-like' planets exist which are 9.5x the mass of Earth. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:17:00 -
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interesting question.
To be funny; the ground will hit you with enough force to kill a Heavy. |
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BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD
Shadow of the Apocalypse
2
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:17:00 -
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Beware math in public...
Try this out...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_acceleration
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Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:21:00 -
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Well, we are not flying around in the air in Uprising (yet). |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD
Shadow of the Apocalypse
2
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:29:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
For hemorrhoid flare up try Tucs medicated pads. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3822
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:45:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:interesting question.
To be funny; the ground will hit you with enough force to kill a Heavy.
Actually its not, and thats where im going with this.
If an 18 wheeler traveling at 60mph hits you, how much force are you being hit with? |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:56:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Niuvo wrote:interesting question.
To be funny; the ground will hit you with enough force to kill a Heavy. Actually its not, and thats where im going with this. If an 18 wheeler traveling at 60mph hits you, how much force are you being hit with?
That is pretty funny... |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
425
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:07:00 -
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Using the time it takes to jump off MCC and hit ground and the distance between ground and MCC. Since we don't know exactly the acceleration of gravity we then have to use this equation:
s = s0 + v0*t + (1/2)a*t^2
Let's assume distance is 100m and time is around 5 seconds.
For "a" equation becomes
a = (2*s)/(t^2) since v0 and s0 = 0
a = (2*100)/(5^2) = 8 m/s^2
Then assume average clone weight is 80 kg and dropsuit could weight between 50 and 200 kg (light, medium and heavy). I'll assume medium dropsuit + clone = 180 kg
The use Newton's second law:
F = ma
F = 180*8 = 1440 N
Which in pounds is around 323 lbs. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3823
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:18:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Using the time it takes to jump off MCC and hit ground and the distance between ground and MCC. Since we don't know exactly the acceleration of gravity we then have to use this equation:
s = s0 + v0*t + (1/2)a*t^2
Let's assume distance is 100m and time is around 5 seconds.
For "a" equation becomes
a = (2*s)/(t^2) since v0 and s0 = 0
a = (2*100)/(5^2) = 8 m/s^2
Then assume average clone weight is 80 kg and dropsuit could weight between 50 and 200 kg (light, medium and heavy). I'll assume medium dropsuit + clone = 180 kg
The use Newton's second law:
F = ma
F = 180*8 = 1440 N
Which in pounds is around 323 lbs.
I get the impression the semi hits a lot harder >_<
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
589
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:27:00 -
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Okay, let's get the speed that you are travelling when you hit then... I'm pretty sure terminal velocity is faster than 60mph (with the long lost Earth as a reference). |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD
Shadow of the Apocalypse
3
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:34:00 -
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Successful math in public! Now I know we are doomed. ..
Now is the collision between earth and truck an elastic or inelastic collision? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3824
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:37:00 -
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Earth is just you falling.
The semi hits you at 60mph out in the open |
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WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
427
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:42:00 -
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I edited post with in-game time and distance. |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:47:00 -
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Kinetic Energy problem KE=0.5*m*v^2=m*g*h=PE (neglecting air resistance and terminal velocity)
1. Gravity (acceleration) - look at what planet you are on and go to http://evemaps.dotlan.net/region/planets surface gravity is listed...
2. Height - jump from the mcc and use a stop watch to see how long it takes to die, height=0.5*g*t^2
3. Mass - I have no reference, 100kg is 220lbs at Earth... That should work for an estimate. |
IrishWebster
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:47:00 -
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Just because I LOVE throwing a wrench into things, I have two words for all of you that seemingly (and oddly, given the obvious vast amount of intelligence teeming in this thread) haven't shown their faces...
Terminal Velocity.
Discuss.  |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers
EoN.
81
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:25:00 -
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You hit the ground at 0m/sec because this is a video game and there are no real world equivalents to real life physics. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
589
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:28:00 -
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IrishWebster wrote:Just because I LOVE throwing a wrench into things, I have two words for all of you that seemingly (and oddly, given the obvious vast amount of intelligence teeming in this thread) haven't shown their faces... Terminal Velocity. Discuss.
I think the wrench was thrown in post #18 Mr. late to the party...  |
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