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Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.15 11:17:00 -
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Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up eps and being farming useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardworking.
To be fair though you should do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo. |
Eurydice Itzhak
Militaires Sans Jeux
74
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Posted - 2013.06.15 11:45:00 -
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Balance. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.06.15 12:18:00 -
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I find redline/redzone snipers to be much more difficult to deal with. |
Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
37
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Posted - 2013.06.15 12:22:00 -
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Teamwork; hit the tank so it goes hiding with your Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers and then you drop the orbital. Tears will be harvested! |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
597
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Posted - 2013.06.15 12:47:00 -
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Remm Duchax wrote:Teamwork; hit the tank so it goes hiding with your Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers and then you drop the orbital. Tears will be harvested! Will be harvested by his team mates. He will get killed behind the red line, we won't be able to get them : < |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.06.15 13:07:00 -
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I agree they are extremely annoying.
Especially if they park their Tank next to me.
They are extremely loud and put me off my Sniping.... |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
273
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Posted - 2013.06.15 13:11:00 -
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CCP created the glass cannon for that reason go get a tank and ram them |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.15 13:25:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up eps and being farming useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardworking.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo. How many WP average "3/0" guy have at the end? |
Akurabis
Dark Force Katana General Tso's Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.06.15 14:12:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up eps and being farming useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardworking.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo.
To be fair though you haveing no sensemake bro?
Seriously, an AV tank does wonders for your team if it has a good position - why would it leave the redline area if it has the most commanding view of the field? Usually this is some high area near the redline.
My one clone sitting in a tank is keeping their clones from using their own tanks. Has your team ever been massacred by an enemy tank while one of those redline sniper tanks you're so sick of is on your team?
My real point is, stop getting frustrated at your teammates and work smarter or join a corp. Or, at least get pissed at those guys who seem to jump into oddly positioned turrets and sit there for the whole map (usually shooting at the enemy mcc) instead.
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Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
164
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Posted - 2013.06.15 14:16:00 -
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I gave butt hurt to a redline retreating tank, he went so far in that I couldn`t get out but I killed the coward. |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
671
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:35:00 -
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The problem with these pansys is that there is the redline in the first place. Although the redline is a good thing it's becoming just a crutch for players to hide in the back where most things can't get to it.
While there's no easy way to fix this issue with the small district maps, which are the ones we are playing now (that all happened to be surrounded by mountains..?), I don't see railgun tanks becoming a problem once larger maps are introduced and railgun tanks/snipers are forced to move away from mommies red striped skirt.
Larger maps will come in 2072. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1607
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:42:00 -
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Benari Kalidima wrote:I find redline/redzone snipers to be much more difficult to deal with. I'm not sure if it's still possible this build, but you can crush them. Just switch seats right before your LAV hits them and the game mistakes it for your LAV rolling on its own accord. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
643
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:44:00 -
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Akurabis wrote:
To be fair though you haveing no sensemake bro?
edited to make more sense, ipads like to replace words and i'm terrible at proof reading. |
Auld Syne
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:52:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:The problem with these pansys is that there is the redline in the first place. Although the redline is a good thing it's becoming just a crutch for players to hide in the back where most things can't get to it. That's a lie.
My Prototype Forge Gun can hit it.....once....and then it hides in the redline......*sighs* |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
623
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Posted - 2013.06.15 16:33:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:The problem with these pansys is that there is the redline in the first place. Although the redline is a good thing it's becoming just a crutch for players to hide in the back where most things can't get to it.
While there's no easy way to fix this issue with the small district maps, which are the ones we are playing now (that all happened to be surrounded by mountains..?), I don't see railgun tanks becoming a problem once larger maps are introduced and railgun tanks/snipers are forced to move away from mommies red striped skirt.
Larger maps will come in 3072. fixed it for you.
really whats all this butt hurt for. someone redline HAV killed your HAV? your mad that a player is doing a role and scores more warpoints because they are actually fulfilling a role successfully and you can't be as successful on the ground walking. mad because your not getting carried? CCP made the maps and rails that way and people use them to their advantage. so rather than help your team you want to annoy your own teammates and get less ISK, your sure your not just trolling your team worse then AFKers? |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2013.06.15 16:33:00 -
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redline tanks are redline tanks because of the pain they received from breaking a nail. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
279
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:13:00 -
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Lol love these redline railsniping but hurt QQ threads .
Like weve never seen one of these before . |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:47:00 -
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Not entirely related to this thread but as good a place to ask as any I suppose.
To take on an enemy HAV who's rocking the redline the good old standby of flinging a few willing sacrifices with AV grenades a go-go comes to mind. I was just wondering if there was anything to stop you from locking and releasing a Swarm Launcher salvo on the way down and hitting the dampener at the very last moment? Adds a strong and more immediate alpha strike. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
624
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:50:00 -
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yes. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
672
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:13:00 -
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ladwar wrote: fixed it for you.
really whats all this butt hurt for. someone redline HAV killed your HAV? your mad that a player is doing a role and scores more warpoints because they are actually fulfilling a role successfully and you can't be as successful on the ground walking. mad because your not getting carried? CCP made the maps and rails that way and people use them to their advantage. so rather than help your team you want to annoy your own teammates and get less ISK, your sure your not just trolling your team worse then AFKers?
Do you even read? My problem is hiding behind the redline itself.
Example: You have a huge map, with an area that has a huge elevation that can provide overwatch on most of the map. This area isn't in the redline however it is deeply rooted in enemy territory and will be hard to break through the line on both the air and ground.
I wouldn't have a problem with that. That's completely fine. There's no redline to hide behind in that scenario.
You're one of those people that hid on the top of old manus peak (when the flight ceiling was low) thinking that was fair are you? |
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DeadlyAztec11
Strong-Arm
475
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:31:00 -
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Here is how you deal with with HAV's, you shoot it 2 to 3 times with an AV weapon. It will go behind a hill to lick it's wounds and you just do that a few minutes later again. Not hard just boring.
Sincerely, a dedicated A\v player |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
279
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:48:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:ladwar wrote: fixed it for you.
really whats all this butt hurt for. someone redline HAV killed your HAV? your mad that a player is doing a role and scores more warpoints because they are actually fulfilling a role successfully and you can't be as successful on the ground walking. mad because your not getting carried? CCP made the maps and rails that way and people use them to their advantage. so rather than help your team you want to annoy your own teammates and get less ISK, your sure your not just trolling your team worse then AFKers?
Do you even read? My problem is hiding behind the redline itself. Example: You have a huge map, with an area that has a huge elevation that can provide overwatch on most of the map. This area isn't in the redline however it is deeply rooted in enemy territory and will be hard to break through the line on both the air and ground. I wouldn't have a problem with that. That's completely fine. There's no redline to hide behind in that scenario. You're one of those people that hid on the top of old manus peak (when the flight ceiling was low) thinking that was fair are you?
All good rail tankers did . Nana nana na . It wssent hard to get up there if you were on the other side I cant count how many times I ran uo there calld in my rail and blasred another tanker tgat was too fixated on getting kills bellow. There was nothing wrong with camping on manus peak QQ boys like you ruind that map for rail snipers. |
Auld Syne
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:55:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:
All good rail tankers did . Nana nana na . It wssent hard to get up there if you were on the other side I cant count how many times I ran uo there calld in my rail and blasred another tanker tgat was too fixated on getting kills bellow. There was nothing wrong with camping on manus peak QQ boys like you ruind that map for rail snipers.
[Troll Detected]
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
92
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Posted - 2013.06.15 21:07:00 -
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Redline HAV snipers are usually not aware that they are on team-red-zone - there is no visual indication for that. Blame maps topography that we don't have a map with huge mountain at the middle, and point to take at the edge. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
672
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Posted - 2013.06.15 21:12:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Redline HAV snipers are usually not aware that they are on team-red-zone - there is no visual indication for that. Blame maps topography that we don't have a map with huge mountain at the middle, and point to take at the edge . Yes my main concern is the maps. If we simply had bigger maps, that were separated from the redline enough to where the only way being in the redline would be tactical is if the team was trying to redline you, this wouldn't be as a big of an issue. but that requires a good sized map. which as I said before, wouldn't come remotely anytime soon. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
177
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Posted - 2013.06.15 21:45:00 -
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being a rail tank driver, I have spots in high places that give me a complete view of the map and objectives near my teams side of the map, so I stay in that spot and rack up kills when the enemy tries to hack an objective that I can see, so yeah we do provide roles. its better than being on the ground and not getting **** done to help the team anyway, but I agree that those of us that do this just to hide from danger don't deserve their tanks, but there are those of us that provide a service the team that were on by killing people from a distance where we have a high advantage point. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
220
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Posted - 2013.06.15 22:16:00 -
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I can see where a sniper rail may not realize that they're behind the red line. But when the sniper rail is over 150 meters behind their red line, and that's giving a generous leeway, I cannot accept that they don't know. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
645
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Posted - 2013.06.16 00:56:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Lol love these redline railsniping but hurt QQ threads .
Like weve never seen one of these before .
I liked butthurting you I distinctly remember blowing you up because my partner looked very confused when i blurted out "ahahaha F you pegasis" |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
487
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Posted - 2013.06.16 00:56:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote:I gave butt hurt to a redline retreating tank, he went so far in that I couldn`t get out but I killed the coward.
You'd be a coward too if you could only use std level armor/shield mods and everyone else had duvolle tacs with 5 damage mods. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.06.16 01:28:00 -
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The problem was the excessive PG Nerf. |
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
220
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Posted - 2013.06.16 01:57:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:I gave butt hurt to a redline retreating tank, he went so far in that I couldn`t get out but I killed the coward. You'd be a coward too if you could only use std level armor/shield mods and everyone else had duvolle tacs with 5 damage mods.
At best, a heavy with FG can use two damage mods, one if they're in sentinel frames. I can't say anything about assaults with SWARM / plasma. |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
129
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Posted - 2013.06.16 02:29:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:I gave butt hurt to a redline retreating tank, he went so far in that I couldn`t get out but I killed the coward. You'd be a coward too if you could only use std level armor/shield mods and everyone else had duvolle tacs with 5 damage mods. At best, a heavy with FG can use two damage mods, one if they're in sentinel frames. I can't say anything about assaults with SWARM / plasma. Don't forget the good 'ole AV grenades on the assault suits as well! |
PITCH- BLACK
Ahrendee Frontlinez Omega Commission
13
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Posted - 2013.06.16 02:36:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up wps and being farking useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardwork.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo. So your saying going 3/0 is useless, at least they did something. And so what if we redline tank, we support the damn team from the mountains. Clearly making railguns more useful. Im a tanker, I do not approve of this thread. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
177
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Posted - 2013.06.16 02:47:00 -
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PITCH- BLACK wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up wps and being farking useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardwork.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo. So your saying going 3/0 is useless, at least they did something. And so what if we redline tank, we support the damn team from the mountains. Clearly making railguns more useful. Im a tanker, I do not approve of this thread.
same |
Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
565
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Posted - 2013.06.16 02:51:00 -
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So many butthurt rail gun tankers trying to justify redline sniping in this thread. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
646
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:14:00 -
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Hey i'm a tanker who more often then not uses a rail tank, sometimes I'm forced to fight from the redline but when conditions allow it I move forward and get my hands dirty, this thread is merely designed to equip players with a means of dealing with tankers who do nothing but sit in the redline and destroy a few turrets and bolas.
If you only manage to get say 3 kills and that is considered a good game for you I hope players TK you till you decide to uninstall the game or get better. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
633
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:25:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:ladwar wrote: fixed it for you.
really whats all this butt hurt for. someone redline HAV killed your HAV? your mad that a player is doing a role and scores more warpoints because they are actually fulfilling a role successfully and you can't be as successful on the ground walking. mad because your not getting carried? CCP made the maps and rails that way and people use them to their advantage. so rather than help your team you want to annoy your own teammates and get less ISK, your sure your not just trolling your team worse then AFKers?
Do you even read? My problem is hiding behind the redline itself. Example: You have a huge map, with an area that has a huge elevation that can provide overwatch on most of the map. This area isn't in the redline however it is deeply rooted in enemy territory and will be hard to break through the line on both the air and ground. I wouldn't have a problem with that. That's completely fine. There's no redline to hide behind in that scenario. You're one of those people that hid on the top of old manus peak (when the flight ceiling was low) thinking that was fair are you? I have nice relaxing MCC to stand in, don't even need that redline one bit. |
Golda Go
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:32:00 -
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You clearly have no concept of what artillery is. Redline tanks is the closest we have to artillery even if they go 3/0 they find fun being the artillery role although this game lacks it (no wonder). You COD nubs |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:41:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up wps and being farking useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardwork.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo.
i go 16/0 with about usually, ~1800 wps. my best has been over 3000 wps with 26/0
im useless? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
633
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:47:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up wps and being farking useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardwork.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo. i go 16/0 with about usually, ~1800 wps. my best has been over 3000 wps with 26/0 im useless? totally, you should be going 6k+ wps every game, even ambush. |
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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
150
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:48:00 -
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I think if a tank wants to sit in the redline and rail snipe, we should leave him the **** alone to play his game, only matches where **** matters are PC, and most corps wont employ that tactic, due to the waste of a gun after all WP is harvested from turret installations. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
104
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Posted - 2013.06.16 08:49:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:The problem with these pansys is that there is the redline in the first place. Although the redline is a good thing it's becoming just a crutch for players to hide in the back where most things can't get to it. That's a lie. My Prototype Forge Gun can hit it.....once....and then it hides in the redline......*sighs* Just suicidally drive a LAV back there and finish it off. Worked for me last week, his safe spot wasn't. Actually I wouldn't do it after only getting one hit. Sometimes they get in reps when least expected. As a policy if I know topography and the vehicle was near death then taking a one-way drive into the redline is a perfectly acceptable trade. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
648
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Posted - 2013.06.16 09:50:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up wps and being farking useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardwork.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo. i go 16/0 with about usually, ~1800 wps. my best has been over 3000 wps with 26/0 im useless?
You are useless but not because of a lack of ability to kill while rail tanking but because you obviously can't read.
here i'll make it easier for you.
Beld Errmon wrote: being farking useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardwork.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1295
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Posted - 2013.06.16 11:17:00 -
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Complaning about a pub match lol |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
221
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Posted - 2013.06.16 21:42:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Well the answer is here if they are on your team, get an armor tank add overdrive and ram them, if you don't manage to destroy them in the least you'll make sure they don't get to sit there all match soaking up wps and being farking useless going 3/0 while you do all the hardwork.
To be fair though you shouldn't do this to hardworking tankers that leave the redline and support their team, but whatever, sandbox yo. i go 16/0 with about usually, ~1800 wps. my best has been over 3000 wps with 26/0 im useless?
You're not useless, you just appear to be afraid to risk leaving the relative safety of your redzone. |
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