DUST Search - YES! They are fixing weapons effective ranges in early July!

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

Define fixed. Are we talking Chromosome fixed or Uprising fixed here? This will dictate how excited I'll be.

At this point anything would be an improvement. For the love of Oden's beard, just give us some respectable weapons ranges in this game already.

The current weapon ranges are fine IMO, a lot of people were spoiled by sharpshooter. But if they're going to increase effective ranges, rifles need more kick and dispersion to compensate since they don't seem interested in implementing damage falloff outside of a weapon's optimal. If they do go with falloff HMGs could probably be buffed up to some decent damage so they can dominate in their own optimal like they're supposed, get a their range buffed back up to their original base in Chromosome to actually be threatening to do some crowd control and ARs can still have the advantage at a distance as intended, this would also be beneficial to sidearms as well.
Lasers and SCRs need a flat out range buff for the sake of balance. Damage is good for the lasers, but they need to be the answer to TAC ARs and the SCR should have the range advantage over the AR class since ARs will always beat them in raw DPS.

Well IMO, your opinion sucks. And they already do have damage falloff. It's just that the ranges in this game are so short that you don't really notice it most of the time. Roll

I would like to see damage falloff extended as well, in addition to a 30 or so meter range buff (for assault type weapons that is, all other weapons can take a percentage que from there).

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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5100	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:21:00 - [1] - Quote ? Suddenly I am the OP again.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 16	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:23:00 - [2] - Quote Stop doing that damn it. Leave my threads alone Anyway: This is wonderful news!
ReGnYuM Not another AR SCRUB 183	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:25:00 - [3] - Quote What is this forum witchcraft
Raizor Feddie Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:25:00 - [4] - Quote Will not be here...Took too long...Me and many others...Moving on to better (Not broken)
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 576	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:25:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ? Suddenly I am the OP again. You is the hax0r.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 329	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:26:00 - [6] - Quote Raizor Feddie wrote: Will not be here...Took too long...Me and many others...Moving on to better (Not broken) games. Then I'll properly assume this is your last post on the forums.
Raizor Feddie Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:27:00 - [7] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Raizor Feddie wrote: Will not be here...Took too long...Me and many others...Moving on to better (Not broken) games. Then I'll properly assume this is your last post on the forums. Never assume. It makes an ass out of you and me. Mostly you though, especially when you're wrong. Kind of like now.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 578	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:29:00 - [8] - Quote Raizor Feddie wrote: Never assume. It makes an ass out of you and me. Mostly you though, especially when you're wrong. Kind of like now. If you are going to troll at least say stuff that somebody other than yourself might find funny.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 332	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:29:00 - [9] - Quote Raizor Feddie wrote: Never assume. It makes an ass out of you and me. Mostly you though, especially when you're wrong. Kind of like now. I see dry sarcasm translates poorly on the internet.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1448	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:30:00 - [10] - Quote Define fixed. Are we talking Chromosome fixed or Uprising fixed here? This will dictate how excited I'll be.

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 219	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:31:00 - [11] - Quote Definition of fixing in CCP terms: Fixing: The overall breaking and nerfing of already broken gameplay elements, in order to have more useless crap to work on and delay the important stuff. If CCP fixes weapon ranges like the fixed the TACAR it will be a good day, if they fix weapon ranges like they are fixing armor tanking it will be delete Dust 514 day.
Setaceous Prime Nexus Prima 70	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:33:00 - [12] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Raizor Feddie wrote: Never assume. It makes an ass out of you and me. Mostly you though, especially when you're wrong. Kind of like now. I see dry sarcasm translates poorly on the internet. Everything translates poorly in the incredibly short written form of a forum post.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 16	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:36:00 - [13] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Define fixed. Are we talking Chromosome fixed or Uprising fixed here? This will dictate how excited I'll be. At this point anything would be an improvement. For the love of Oden's beard, just give us some respectable weapons ranges in this game already.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1449	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:47:00 - [14] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Cosgar wrote: Define fixed. Are we talking Chromosome fixed or Uprising fixed here? This will dictate how excited I'll be. At this point anything would be an improvement. For the love of Oden's beard, just give us some respectable weapons ranges in this game already. The current weapon ranges are fine IMO, a lot of people were spoiled by sharpshooter. But if they're going to increase effective ranges, rifles need more kick and dispersion to compensate since they don't seem interested in implementing damage falloff outside of a weapon's optimal. If they do go with falloff HMGs could probably be buffed up to some decent damage so they can dominate in their own optimal like they're supposed, get a their range buffed back up to their original base in Chromosome to actually be threatening to do some crowd control and ARs can still have the advantage at a distance as intended, this would also be beneficial to sidearms as well. Lasers and SCRs need a flat out range buff for the sake of balance. Damage is good for the lasers, but they need to be the answer to TAC ARs and the SCR should have the range advantage over the AR class since ARs will always beat them in raw DPS.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 16	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:57:00 - [15] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Cosgar wrote: Define fixed. Are we talking Chromosome fixed or Uprising fixed here? This will dictate how excited I'll be. At this point anything would be an improvement. For the love of Oden's beard, just give us some respectable weapons ranges in this game already. The current weapon ranges are fine IMO, a lot of people were spoiled by sharpshooter. But if they're going to increase effective ranges, rifles need more kick and dispersion to compensate since they don't seem interested in implementing damage falloff outside of a weapon's optimal. If they do go with falloff HMGs could probably be buffed up to some decent damage so they can dominate in their own optimal like they're supposed, get a their range buffed back up to their original base in Chromosome to actually be threatening to do some crowd control and ARs can still have the advantage at a distance as intended, this would also be beneficial to sidearms as well. Lasers and SCRs need a flat out range buff for the sake of balance. Damage is good for the lasers, but they need to be the answer to TAC ARs and the SCR should have the range advantage over the AR class since ARs will always beat them in raw DPS. Well IMO, your opinion sucks. And they already do have damage falloff. It's just that the ranges in this game are so short that you don't really notice it most of the time. I would like to see damage fall off extended as well in addition to a 30 or so meter range buff (for assault type weapons that is, all other weapons can take a percentage que from there).
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1449	Posted - 2013.06.13 01:04:00 - [16] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Cosgar wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Cosgar wrote: Define fixed. Are we talking Chromosome fixed or Uprising fixed here? This will dictate how excited I'll be. At this point anything would be an improvement. For the love of Oden's beard, just give us some respectable weapons ranges in this game already. The current weapon ranges are fine IMO, a lot of people were spoiled by sharpshooter. But if they're going to increase effective ranges, rifles need more kick and dispersion to compensate since they don't seem interested in implementing damage falloff outside of a weapon's optimal. If they do go with falloff HMGs could probably be buffed up to some decent damage so they can dominate in their own optimal like they're supposed, get a their range buffed back up to their original base in Chromosome to actually be threatening to do some crowd control and ARs can still have the advantage at a distance as intended, this would also be beneficial to sidearms as well. Lasers and SCRs need a flat out range buff for the sake of balance. Damage is good for the lasers, but they need to be the answer to TAC ARs and the SCR should have the range advantage over the AR class since ARs will always beat them in raw DPS. Well IMO, your opinion sucks. And they already do have damage falloff. It's just that the ranges in this game are so short that you don't really notice it most of the time. I would like to see damage falloff extended as well, in addition to a 30 or so meter range buff (for assault type weapons that is, all other weapons can take a percentage que from there). Gallente weapons are meant to be short/mid range, high DPS. But aside from the SCR, it's the only other choice until it gets split up into the other racial variants. Once we get the CBR and Gauss, things will get more interesting when it comes to choosing what AR to use. But SCR still needs to have better range than the current AR, someone needs to throw it a bone.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3646	Posted - 2013.06.13 01:11:00 - [17] - Quote As a former dropship pilot, I've learned to feel fear when I hear the words "fix" or "tweak"
RECON BY FIRE Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 192	Posted - 2013.06.13 01:21:00 - [18] - Quote Its wonderful that it will have taken them 2 or more months to fix something they could fix overnight? I need to see your definition of wonderful because I call that ridiculous.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 333	Posted - 2013.06.13 01:21:00 - [19] - Quote Lol I wouldn't get that excited. The CCP Dev already said in the video. "We're gonna release the new weapon ranges, but then it is very likely that it won't be enough, at which point we will take player feedback and data mined metrics and iterate on it until the feature is complete" Translation: "We're gonna release it, but since we really have no clue, it'll probably suck. So we'll need another 2 months to fix the fix we're implementing which fixes the fix that broke the game 2 months ago." Don't expect weapon ranges to be 'fixed' until august at the earliest.


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