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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:00:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Jenza - Heavy
Wait, I thought Jenza is doing HAV again. lol, guess not they actually take skill to use more then just sp |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:00:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Jenza - Heavy
Wait, I thought Jenza is doing HAV again.
Last time I ran into Jenza she mowed me down with an HMG. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3639
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:It doesn't stop me from seeing a dropship pilot outfly a swarm launch from a wkyromi. Plasma cannons are weird acting sometimes they do a crap tonn of damage and most of the time nothing.
The only Fired AV weapon really out of tune however I feel awful for every pilot who has to face the proto forge gun of any variety because of the alpha and subsequent shots deal so much damage that many slow vehicles that get fired on DO not have time to react. Where as with swarms majority of the time it is not too late to react and avoid subsequent hits. When being attacked by the forge gun you're either lucky and the guy shooting you is desperate and not planning his kill zone properly or you turn on your defenses and hope to get out of the kill zone quickly enough.
Yet that same dropship that's flying away from swarms is being completely useless to his team.
The fact they even made an Assault and now Bomber variants show that CCP is taking the lazy way out. Instead of giving us proper air vehicles, they're just tacking on more placeholders. The dropship is clearly not designed to assault things, yet that's what we've been reduced to. Instead of giving us gunships or actual new assets, just slap bandaids on the amputated area.
I AV enemy dropships with my own because it's way more fun and far more effective, and costs me about 1/20th the cost.
While forges are certainly an issue (I kill assaults with militia forge when I'm too lazy to call in my ship to ram them), railguns are the true culprit.
I hate that I was forced out of my favorite way to play DUST thanks to half assed balancing and a years worth of dropship abuse. But you know, lets add an anti air HAV, since dropships are so overpowered..... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5094
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:02:00 -
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If I had to fix vehicles its going to be a clean slate approach none the less not numbers bumping and bumping because I been here long enough to know that has not been working. |
Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
65
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:02:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Infine Sentinel wrote:I think we should replace IWS With Warlord Replace IWS, with Meeeeeeeeeee! BACON AND WP FOR ALL THE DROPSHIP PILOTS! (Vote Knight Solaire now) Voted.
Polls.
Warlord:4
IWS:-47
Knight:218131892361207896127623971461239706123746230746 1293407286413 |
Nguruthos IX
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
you can't make profit with DS when every 3 games an RDV spawns inside of you
Yeah I been trying to talk to CCP about the war point system no ETA. >-<. Also what I find that really sucks is that ADS and DS controls are worlds apart for me.
Controls are not only fine, they are perfect. It's the UI that's a problem.
Activating modules, namely. And the camera snap back on ADS front turret. The first person view being terrible AND not able to move turret independently. And then the 2-3 game breaking bugs involving passenger-gunners on turrets. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
173
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:05:00 -
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we need someone who is skilled into LAVs, HAVs and Dropships for the vehicle users of this game to be a CPM, if it was only needed for the HAVs then I would volunteer but its needed for all 3 vehicle types so we need someone who uses all of them (people who spawn militia LAVs running people over don't count, im talking actually specked into the damn thing, same with the other 2 vehicle types). |
Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
65
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:06:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:we need someone who is skilled into LAVs, HAVs and Dropships for the vehicle users of this game to be a CPM, if it was only needed for the HAVs then I would volunteer but its needed for all 3 vehicle types so we need someone who uses all of them (people who spawn militia LAVs running people over don't count, im talking actually specked into the damn thing, same with the other 2 vehicle types). Guess that's me, when do I start |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
247
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:07:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:we need someone who is skilled into LAVs, HAVs and Dropships for the vehicle users of this game to be a CPM, if it was only needed for the HAVs then I would volunteer but its needed for all 3 vehicle types so we need someone who uses all of them (people who spawn militia LAVs running people over don't count, im talking actually specked into the damn thing, same with the other 2 vehicle types). Reach 18 first. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2215
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:08:00 -
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since we have a CPM member in here...maybe he can answer my question...
Why don't we see the rest of them more often? I only ever see Kain and IWS. Now and then you see Nova and Jenza comment... but yeaaaa. The moon and stars have to align perfectly to see this.
Where's Caz, and Hans? I don't know HOW some of these people got elected to CPM when they have next to NO community presence.
Anyway, just voicing an opinion.
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Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:If I had to fix vehicles its going to be a clean slate approach none the less not numbers bumping and bumping because I been here long enough to know that has not been working.
I agree with you that the stats of all vehicles and AV equipment need to be wiped away and set to 0 then work on them beginning with the militia grade until those are balanced, then the same to the standard then advanced then proto gear. if that were to happen there would be minimal problems left. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
173
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:09:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Void Echo wrote:we need someone who is skilled into LAVs, HAVs and Dropships for the vehicle users of this game to be a CPM, if it was only needed for the HAVs then I would volunteer but its needed for all 3 vehicle types so we need someone who uses all of them (people who spawn militia LAVs running people over don't count, im talking actually specked into the damn thing, same with the other 2 vehicle types). Reach 18 first.
I am 18 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5094
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:It doesn't stop me from seeing a dropship pilot outfly a swarm launch from a wkyromi. Plasma cannons are weird acting sometimes they do a crap tonn of damage and most of the time nothing.
The only Fired AV weapon really out of tune however I feel awful for every pilot who has to face the proto forge gun of any variety because of the alpha and subsequent shots deal so much damage that many slow vehicles that get fired on DO not have time to react. Where as with swarms majority of the time it is not too late to react and avoid subsequent hits. When being attacked by the forge gun you're either lucky and the guy shooting you is desperate and not planning his kill zone properly or you turn on your defenses and hope to get out of the kill zone quickly enough. Yet that same dropship that's flying away from swarms is being completely useless to his team. The fact they even made an Assault and now Bomber variants show that CCP is taking the lazy way out. Instead of giving us proper air vehicles, they're just tacking on more placeholders. The dropship is clearly not designed to assault things, yet that's what we've been reduced to. Instead of giving us gunships or actual new assets, just slap bandaids on the amputated area. I AV enemy dropships with my own because it's way more fun and far more effective, and costs me about 1/20th the cost. While forges are certainly an issue (I kill assaults with militia forge when I'm too lazy to call in my ship to ram them), railguns are the true culprit. I hate that I was forced out of my favorite way to play DUST thanks to half assed balancing and a years worth of dropship abuse. But you know, lets add an anti air HAV, since dropships are so overpowered.....
All AV has to be useful enough to drive off and discourage vehicles in the area and kill anything that doesn't have second thoughts about punching in further.
Vehicles however should be designed in such a way that they could forgo the run away and come back option and be able to 'deal with it' and take out light amounts of unserious AV.
If they don't we're going to wind up with the invincible tanks that just didn't give a crap what you shot them with they just plow through and kill everyone.
I do agree however that vehicle presence near the front lines needs to be more prevailed and better recovered especially when properly supported. Vehicle operators need to get rewarded for their efforts and overall quality of life of vehicles needs to greatly improve.
This is why I vehemently opposed the super 'resist' shield from having 5 minute cooldown time. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
611
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:10:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
you can't make profit with DS when every 3 games an RDV spawns inside of you
Yeah I been trying to talk to CCP about the war point system no ETA. >-<. Also what I find that really sucks is that ADS and DS controls are worlds apart for me. Controls are not only fine, they are perfect. It's the UI that's a problem. Activating modules, namely. And the camera snap back on ADS front turret. The first person view being terrible AND not able to move turret independently. And then the 2-3 game breaking bugs involving passenger-gunners on turrets. ^ remove the snap on front turret. modules, that's just a vehicle thing in general, but not a super big issue for me. side turrets need some love, really. tried of getting hit by the side turrets because missiles render after swinging the DS around. |
ReGnYuM
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
182
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:13:00 -
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Vote ReGnUM
and together, we will put the FPS B4 the MMO
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3639
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:13:00 -
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Honestly they just need to do something with railguns, give forge guns fall off damage and tweak back their optimal a tad, give DS's maybe 10% more HP and fitting capacity (or higher tier variants, same goes for other vehicles on that end), some WPs and an actual purpose as a troop transport.
You don't know how badly dropships have ruined dust for me
Seriously.
It's all I wanted to do. Now I have to play boring ass infantry again, and it just doesn't keep me coming back.
I'm a bit of a masochist, but even I had to say enough was too much
:/ |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5094
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:13:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:since we have a CPM member in here...maybe he can answer my question...
Why don't we see the rest of them more often? I only ever see Kain and IWS. Now and then you see Nova and Jenza comment... but yeaaaa. The moon and stars have to align perfectly to see this.
Where's Caz, and Hans? I don't know HOW some of these people got elected to CPM when they have next to NO community presence.
Anyway, just voicing an opinion.
Caz is french and I think he runs the WTF website forums but he does leave comments in the councilers chambers quite often.
Hans talks with CCP for the group he has contacts and knows many of the ccp faces personally and uses most of his time trying to get things going internally.
Nova is in a similar position but in a different angle and different goals, he also pod casts and has his own group of people he talks to.
Jenza and Kain are busy running things in their alliances and members of their alliances approach them often with things.
I am the least occupied of them and since nobody wants to talk to me I guess I have to force myself to talk to you guys. |
SENATOR KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
146
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:14:00 -
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lolvehiclesindust |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
247
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:15:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Vote ReGnUM
and together, we will put the FPS B4 the MMO
Wtf why you no,in Imp? |
ReGnYuM
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
182
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:16:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Vote ReGnUM
and together, we will put the FPS B4 the MMO
Wtf why you no,in Imp?
BORED and taking a break |
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BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
247
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:18:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:BOZ MR wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Vote ReGnUM
and together, we will put the FPS B4 the MMO
Wtf why you no,in Imp? BORED and taking a break edit: I make boss clan tags Wanna play last of Us in 2 days lol |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1442
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:19:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Cosgar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Jenza - Heavy
Wait, I thought Jenza is doing HAV again. lol, guess not they actually take skill to use more then just sp SP to put into what skills? Turret operation is kind of pointless since it got ninja nerfed... again, engineering is bugged, and why even bother with modules since you don't have enough PG to use anything since the nerf.
(Damn vehicles are screwed up...) |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5096
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:19:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:BOZ MR wrote:Void Echo wrote:we need someone who is skilled into LAVs, HAVs and Dropships for the vehicle users of this game to be a CPM, if it was only needed for the HAVs then I would volunteer but its needed for all 3 vehicle types so we need someone who uses all of them (people who spawn militia LAVs running people over don't count, im talking actually specked into the damn thing, same with the other 2 vehicle types). Reach 18 first. I am 18
Next step passport. |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
314
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:How many 'experts' know they are experts though? What qualifies them? Does it mean they can survive multiple rounds? Make profit? Maintain positive kdr if possible? Countless hours spent in the seat of the things?
The only reason why I continuously trash talk majority pilots because the lot of you are extremely easy targets and can solo most folks with crappy militia/base gear. Then there is the silent majority, people I never see on the forums but see in the game, and they give my AV abilities a real run for their money.
Vehicle experts are : Sr Moede, Slap, Noc, Caeli ; those are your vehicle experts |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
247
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:21:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:How many 'experts' know they are experts though? What qualifies them? Does it mean they can survive multiple rounds? Make profit? Maintain positive kdr if possible? Countless hours spent in the seat of the things?
The only reason why I continuously trash talk majority pilots because the lot of you are extremely easy targets and can solo most folks with crappy militia/base gear. Then there is the silent majority, people I never see on the forums but see in the game, and they give my AV abilities a real run for their money. Vehicle experts are : Sr Moede, Slap, Noc, Caeli ; those are your vehicle experts Yeah, I forget noc. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2216
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Caz is french. Hans talks with CCP for the group he has contacts and knows many of the ccp faces personally. Nova is in a similar position but in a different angle. Jenza and Kain are busy running things in their alliances.
Caz speaks english good enough. I've heard him and seen him here a couple times.
Hans... literally seen him once or twice. So he has contacts in CCP, that's the excuse you're making?
Jenza busy with alliance? I thought CRONOS give up. Kain still pops up he's a CEO as well.
Tbh though, these people that not having a community presence is not our problem, but theirs if they plan on running again for a CPM spot, especially if they're relying on the votes of the community. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5096
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:26:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Caz is french. Hans talks with CCP for the group he has contacts and knows many of the ccp faces personally. Nova is in a similar position but in a different angle. Jenza and Kain are busy running things in their alliances.
Caz speaks english good enough. I've heard him and seen him here a couple times. Hans... literally seen him once or twice. So he has contacts in CCP, that's the excuse you're making? Jenza busy with alliance? I thought CRONOS give up. Kain still pops up he's a CEO as well. Tbh though, these people that not having a community presence is not our problem, but theirs if they plan on running again for a CPM spot, especially if they're relying on the votes of the community.
Yes I know Caz can speak english, he hangs out quite often in the cpm chambers answering cpm related topics, I am just saying hes probably far more active in french players than english players.
Its not my problem that there is low forum or perceived community presence of the CPM, I can't force these guys on the forums, and I don't exactly keep track of them to give you all a progress report on what they are doing now. One of them somewhat loathes the forums because the amount of lauding caused.
I am glad and you should be too that Hans is on the CPM, the work he does so critical that without him... well I can imagine worse off things for everything as a whole. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2216
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Caz is french. Hans talks with CCP for the group he has contacts and knows many of the ccp faces personally. Nova is in a similar position but in a different angle. Jenza and Kain are busy running things in their alliances.
Caz speaks english good enough. I've heard him and seen him here a couple times. Hans... literally seen him once or twice. So he has contacts in CCP, that's the excuse you're making? Jenza busy with alliance? I thought CRONOS give up. Kain still pops up he's a CEO as well. Tbh though, these people that not having a community presence is not our problem, but theirs if they plan on running again for a CPM spot, especially if they're relying on the votes of the community. Yes I know Caz can speak english, he hangs out quite often in the cpm chambers answering cpm related topics, I am just saying hes probably far more active in french players than english players. Its not my problem that there is low forum or perceived community presence of the CPM, I can't force these guys on the forums, and I don't exactly keep track of them to give you all a progress report on what they are doing now. One of them somewhat loathes the forums because the amount of lauding caused. I am glad and you should be too that Hans is on the CPM, the work he does so critical that without him... well I can imagine worse off things for everything as a whole.
not saying i wasn't happy we have a voice in there, but people on the forums don't know these people lol
how you gonna represent the community if you don't participate with it... don't like the forums so how are people suppose to interact with him / her? I don't think the Devs love the forums, yet they still pass by and comment and be part of the community.
w/e tbh... if we ever get to vote i know some people that won't get my vote. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1443
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:33:00 -
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Can we get a CPM that uses Mass Drivers as well? Just look at how many AR users are blobbing around like they own the battlefield... |
Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
65
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Can we get a CPM that uses Mass Drivers as well? Just look at how many AR users are blobbing around like they own the battlefield... I vote Makuta! |
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