DUST Search - this is a game that you people deserve.

Soitar Nimbor wrote:

Zekain K wrote:

You placed your faith in a company that has zero experience In building an fps, and what you are given is this garbage that's trying to be fun.

every issue this game has, has a right to exist because of their inexperience.

This game deserves to die from the lack of experience.

The community deserve to suffer for their misplaced faith.

Ccp deserves all of the hate they are receiving for thinking they can build something when the only experience they have in game development is eve.

5 year plan? When exactly does that start? Because this game has already been out for one year, and almost nothing has changed.

This is not Call of Duty, this is not Time Splitters, this is not golden eye. This is a new age in FPS they have all the experience in this area because they are defining it as they go. Yeah no body can argue with the basics of your argument, Dust is hard to get to grips with - the controls are bulky, the dynamics need work and the maps leave could be improved. But all of that can and will be improved. But COD will always be COD.

Dust is something more, and as such it requires players with something more about them, your average COD/Battlefront player will find it hard to keep his interest alive here but those that do stick around will find that the rewards of perseverance are empires spanning galaxies, huge Corporations, intricate diplomacy and the feeling of GOD as you conquer planet after planet with your best team of mercs. (just like all the veteran EVE players found out).

So complain if you must be please remember that they only person that is going to miss out if you leave, is you. Your kind is not made for dust, CODite, so return to your repetitive 1 shot 1 kill universe and leave us to enjoy the future of gaming.

And one last thing I will mention - All the other FPS out there charge you for the same thing every 6-12 months, this is FREE and quite frankly if you cant appreciate what CCP are doing I (not everyone) dont want you here.

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nate09 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.13 18:23:00 - [31] - Quote Soitar Nimbor wrote: Zekain K wrote: You placed your faith in a company that has zero experience In building an fps, and what you are given is this garbage that's trying to be fun. every issue this game has, has a right to exist because of their inexperience. This game deserves to die from the lack of experience. The community deserve to suffer for their misplaced faith. Ccp deserves all of the hate they are receiving for thinking they can build something when the only experience they have in game development is eve. 5 year plan? When exactly does that start? Because this game has already been out for one year, and almost nothing has changed. This is not Call of Duty, this is not Time Splitters, this is not golden eye. This is a new age in FPS they have all the experience in this area because they are defining it as they go. Yeah no body can argue with the basics of your argument, Dust is hard to get to grips with - the controls are bulky, the dynamics need work and the maps leave could be improved. But all of that can and will be improved. But COD will always be COD. Dust is something more, and as such it requires players with something more about them, your average COD/Battlefront player will find it hard to keep his interest alive here but those that do stick around will find that the rewards of perseverance are empires spanning galaxies, huge Corporations, intricate diplomacy and the feeling of GOD as you conquer planet after planet with your best team of mercs. (just like all the veteran EVE players found out). So complain if you must be please remember that they only person that is going to miss out if you leave, is you. Your kind is not made for dust, CODite, so return to your repetitive 1 shot 1 kill universe and leave us to enjoy the future of gaming. And one last thing I will mention - All the other FPS out there charge you for the same thing every 6-12 months, this is FREE and quite frankly if you cant appreciate what CCP are doing I (not everyone) dont want you here. This is easy. This is easy to say and have others agree with and i wish to shatter this illusion, because this sentiment leads to a logic that fans shouldn't have to deal with. Dust514 is not a "new age in fps" If you read that and are angered by that statement, I apologize but it is in fact the truth. Was Dust an experiment to see if cross game interaction was feasible? Yes and in that regard Dust was successful. Note I didn't say cross-platform, because other fps titles have done cross platform, Shadowrun or tf are the better know examples. Now, to what extent was the interaction available? I would argue the only tangible feature was the ability to bombard a map. Despite all the other nice details and promises, that addition is truly the strongest link the two games have together. Moving on. When you compare dust to cod in terms of fundamental mechanics, and structure the two are nearly indistinguishable. Now im not saying that the two games are identical, don't quote this out of context, im saying the mechanics(when you stripe the coats of paint off) are the same, the guns work on the same vars, the maps are composed the same way, the player counts and spawns can all be compared. But what's important to take away from what trying to say in this paragraph is that dust is mechanically, no different from cod or really any other fps on the market right now. If I was to nitpick about the lack of quality and refinement behind these features, this post would devolve into every other complaint list you've read on here. If I'll mention anything, it is that dust is merely a AA experience, in a sea of AAA titles. There exists an issue within calling Dust a mmofps, due to the nature by which it operates. I want people to understand that i wish to separate dust from its supposed genre, because calling Dust an mmo, undercuts what it should be judge by. Is instanced matchmaking and repeating, segmented maps an characteristic of an mmo? Then what of Planetside2's maps, or Dayz's chernarus? or whatever the hell warz did? Those huge and open multi-km maps are classified as what? Now for the example that dust allows player corps to own Territory or planets, I ask, is Chromehounds or AC5 an mmo? Player corporations could own land and conquest regions in both of those games, and they had instanced matchmaking on segmented maps with character progress in the form of customizable mechs. I, and I would hope others, have an issue settling for this definition of mmofps and frankly that should not be the end result of CCP's grand vision.
nate09 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.13 18:23:00 - [32] - Quote As it stands now, dust through the eyes of an experienced gamer, or eve player, is exactly like other fps experiences available on the market. I won't say that without providing an explanation to that criticism. I believe that fundamentally, CCP could have made a true mmofps, a player run game modeled in the way of eve and been pioneers for the fps genre. I honestly believe that CCP has the talent and ideas to create that vision, but what they settled for was Dust, and I am sorry but that is not enough to claim an advancement in the genre. I look forward to Bungie's Destiny to see if they realized a more complete mmofps over dust, which I'm relatively positive they have. I dislike seeing both sides of this arguement on the forums to where players who truely believe in the promises conflict with those experiencing the reality. But as it sits, Dust is not a "new era" of frankly anything. My last point is that if i was in CCP's position, i would be honestly scared. Why? Because this is the first attempt from a stagnate creative studio at a new ip, and it failed. If you wish to refute that statement, debate whether any studio develops for mediocrity and then claims success from that venture. CCP needs to take a long, hard look at the way it creates games to avoid another mistake such as dust, because regardless of promises made beforehand, a develop has to deliver.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 122	Posted - 2013.06.13 18:38:00 - [33] - Quote I am happy to be part of this games journey, actually feels like your part of something, though i know i am not.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 700	Posted - 2013.06.13 18:39:00 - [34] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: I am happy to be part of this games journey, actually feels like your part of something, though i know i am not. I'll take this game too. Yeah, I even watched those destiny videos. Honestly, that game looks hokey and childish to me. I guess this is the game I deserve.
Shyeer Alvarin Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 81	Posted - 2013.06.13 19:16:00 - [35] - Quote Zekain K wrote: You placed your faith in a company that has zero experience In building an fps, and what you are given is this garbage that's trying to be fun. every issue this game has, has a right to exist because of their inexperience. This game deserves to die from the lack of experience. The community deserve to suffer for their misplaced faith. Ccp deserves all of the hate they are receiving for thinking they can build something when the only experience they have in game development is eve. 5 year plan? When exactly does that start? Because this game has already been out for one year, and almost nothing has changed. This is my "zero fucks given" face. CCP had no experience with MMOs yet Eve online is a success. All things in time.
Shyeer Alvarin Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 81	Posted - 2013.06.13 19:16:00 - [36] - Quote Shyeer Alvarin wrote: Zekain K wrote: You placed your faith in a company that has zero experience In building an fps, and what you are given is this garbage that's trying to be fun. every issue this game has, has a right to exist because of their inexperience. This game deserves to die from the lack of experience. The community deserve to suffer for their misplaced faith. Ccp deserves all of the hate they are receiving for thinking they can build something when the only experience they have in game development is eve. 5 year plan? When exactly does that start? Because this game has already been out for one year, and almost nothing has changed. This is my "zero ****s given" face. CCP had no experience with MMOs yet Eve online is a success. All things in time.
Shyeer Alvarin Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 81	Posted - 2013.06.13 19:19:00 - [37] - Quote That moment when you have to censor yourself and accidently quote yourself without realising it. Stupid phone.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 21	Posted - 2013.06.13 23:01:00 - [38] - Quote Shyeer Alvarin wrote: Zekain K wrote: You placed your faith in a company that has zero experience In building an fps, and what you are given is this garbage that's trying to be fun. every issue this game has, has a right to exist because of their inexperience. This game deserves to die from the lack of experience. The community deserve to suffer for their misplaced faith. Ccp deserves all of the hate they are receiving for thinking they can build something when the only experience they have in game development is eve. 5 year plan? When exactly does that start? Because this game has already been out for one year, and almost nothing has changed. This is my "zero ****s given" face. CCP had no experience with MMOs yet Eve online is a success. All things in time. CCP bought eve online this wasn't some brand new IP that CCP came up with
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1616	Posted - 2013.06.13 23:02:00 - [39] - Quote Zekain K wrote: This won't won't define new era in the fps community if the community does not accept it. It could become the best thing in the world.but it'll be forgotten because of its terrible launch. What launch? Dust is still in beta until it hits the PS4...
Delta 749 Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 308	Posted - 2013.06.13 23:02:00 - [40] - Quote The funny thing is they hired devs with FPS experience to make this game

Failed Promises Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.13 23:06:00 - [41] - Quote The issue lies here Its fear months ahead of time
Raizor Feddie Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 74	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:36:00 - [42] - Quote The game is terrible. We know. They deserve it, they know. They continue to defend this POS. I wonder why (Buyers/Time Remorse)
Brutus Va'Khan Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:52:00 - [43] - Quote This is why I haven't gotten any AUR stuff. Dust has potential. But that's all that is holding me right now. If it loses it, I've only wasted time. Time that would be spent playing something else.
First Prophet Jaguar Empire 169	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:53:00 - [44] - Quote Dust514 is the game the community deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 18	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:59:00 - [45] - Quote Zekain K wrote: You placed your faith in a company that has zero experience In building an fps, and what you are given is this garbage that's trying to be fun. every issue this game has, has a right to exist because of their inexperience. This game deserves to die from the lack of experience. The community deserve to suffer for their misplaced faith. Ccp deserves all of the hate they are receiving for thinking they can build something when the only experience they have in game development is eve. 5 year plan? When exactly does that start? Because this game has already been out for one year, and almost nothing has changed. Can I have you're stuff?
Setaceous Prime Nexus Prima 71	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:10:00 - [46] - Quote Zekain K wrote: This build is terrible, the next one will be worse. This game was borne to fail. And you would be the resident expert on failure?
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 194	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:16:00 - [47] - Quote inb4 lock. @op "its bad because they are new to the style and It will never be good and deserves to die" is one hell of an argument and sorely misplaced. do us all a favor and leave. pack up your things, donate your isk to your corp and go. in the words of Ghandi "be the change that you want to see in the world." you want to see the community fall apart? take the step, speed up the process, do it, leave. we wont miss you. the community will tread on toward glory or oblivion all the same. if dust fails it will be called ahead of it's time. if it succeeds then we get the greatest fps of all time the most realistic, unreal shooter ever. either way we want to be a part of it. clearly you don't so why are you here? why waste our time with your wasted words? you post is senselessly mean and nonconstructive, a game at which two can play. I'm as much a fanboy as you are helpful, I stay because I want the game to succeed, not because I like it but because I like what it could be. I apologize for my previous words and hope you come back to the game when it's better.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 733	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:52:00 - [48] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: inb4 lock. @op "its bad because they are new to the style and It will never be good and deserves to die" is one hell of an argument and sorely misplaced. do us all a favor and leave. pack up your things, donate your isk to your corp and go. in the words of Ghandi "be the change that you want to see in the world." you want to see the community fall apart? take the step, speed up the process, do it, leave. we wont miss you. the community will tread on toward glory or oblivion all the same. if dust fails it will be called ahead of it's time. if it succeeds then we get the greatest fps of all time the most realistic, unreal shooter ever. either way we want to be a part of it. clearly you don't so why are you here? why waste our time with your wasted words? you post is senselessly mean and nonconstructive, a game at which two can play. I'm as much a fanboy as you are helpful, I stay because I want the game to succeed, not because I like it but because I like what it could be. I apologize for my previous words and hope you come back to the game when it's better. LMAO "ahead of its time" try out of its depth. As far as make constructive posts, feel free to rummage through my post history along with many of the vets from closed beta. We've repeatedly told them what to fix and how to fix it, Shanghai continues to think they know better. Maybe they should look at day 1 of E3 and look at the Microsoft and Sony Conferences, CCP is like Microsoft telling us what we want and thinking they know better, we saw at the end of the night who won that fight didn't we.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 161	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:56:00 - [49] - Quote Zekain K wrote: You placed your faith in a company that has zero experience In building an fps, and what you are given is this garbage that's trying to be fun. every issue this game has, has a right to exist because of their inexperience. This game deserves to die from the lack of experience. The community deserve to suffer for their misplaced faith. Ccp deserves all of the hate they are receiving for thinking they can build something when the only experience they have in game development is eve. 5 year plan? When exactly does that start? Because this game has already been out for one year, and almost nothing has changed. So thanks for the heads up, you know jack all about how this game will develop, I'll keep playing it, so will plenty of other loyal fans. Bye bye douchebag.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 578	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:03:00 - [50] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Literally praying for PvE :/ Will be cool - but won't fix what's really hurting DUST: aiming, moving, controls, lag, memory leaks and passive match sp.

Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 58	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:07:00 - [51] - Quote I think it is awsome that a company that has made its fame from a mmorpg to make a free to play fps. It may not perfect but it definitely better then one can expect.
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 209	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:09:00 - [52] - Quote Because no one ever had faith in anything right?
I VOTED FOR-KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 20	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:10:00 - [53] - Quote decent troll. was almost irate with your stupidity.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 578	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:21:00 - [54] - Quote Zekain K wrote: This won't won't define new era in the fps community if the community does not accept it. It could become the best thing in the world.but it'll be forgotten because of its terrible launch. Somebody's gotta be wrong, and i'm betting it's you, ZK. The staying power of New Eden is phenomenal, the talent collected at CCP is prodigious and driven by a genuine vision, and those peeps can hump it up a learning curve as well as anybody.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 131	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:28:00 - [55] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Zekain K wrote: This won't won't define new era in the fps community if the community does not accept it. It could become the best thing in the world.but it'll be forgotten because of its terrible launch. Somebody's gotta be wrong, and i'm betting it's you, ZK. The staying power of New Eden is phenomenal, the talent collected at CCP is prodigious and driven by a genuine vision, and those peeps can hump it up a learning curve as well as anybody. The fps audience does not give a flying.g **** about new eden.
Setaceous Prime Nexus Prima 71	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:46:00 - [56] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Zekain K wrote: This won't won't define new era in the fps community if the community does not accept it. It could become the best thing in the world.but it'll be forgotten because of its terrible launch. Somebody's gotta be wrong, and i'm betting it's you, ZK. The staying power of New Eden is phenomenal, the talent collected at CCP is prodigious and driven by a genuine vision, and those peeps can hump it up a learning curve as well as anybody. The fps audience does not give a flying.g **** about new eden. This games pop is steadily dropping, and the only thing ccp can do is pick their ass, and wonder why everyone is leaving. I did say it in another post somewhere: The average "dust bunny" has the attention span (and disposition) of an incontinent terrier with ADD. Though I think that's normal for most FPS players.


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