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Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:21:00 -
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Let me start by saying: this is not a whine thread. Just communicating how the next built will likely affect Heavy players based on info mined from the latest video release.
There isn't a lot in there for us, is the sad part. But I'll share what I got:
New Suit Specialization: Commando
Amarr Commando ak.0 suit spotted at the fitting screen in the video. Prototype has:
2 Hi Power Slots 1 Low Power Slot 1 Equipment Slot 1 Grenade Slot 1 or 2 Light Weapon Slot 0 or 1 Sidearm Weapon Slot
Why the confusion about the slots? Because the Heavy in the video was equipped with a Sniper Rifle and SMG. You can put a sidearm in any weapon slot you like, so there is hope yet that the suit has two Light Weapon Slots.
If it does not have two Light Weapon Slots, I'm going to venture out on a limb and say the overwhelming community response will be that the Commando Suit sucks balls. Losing the versaility of the Heavy Weapon Slot and two Low Power Slots for a single Equipment Slot is absolutely not worth it, in my humble opinion.
If it does have two Light Weapon Slots, I feel the Commando Suit just might have a bright future. I predict people will still feel it's underpowered initially, but the more creative of you will find some wicked ways to use two Light Weapons and Equipment on one suit.
By having fewer module slots but the same CPU/PG (as it seemed in the video), you could do thinks like run a Proto Sniper, Advanced shotgun, and Remote Explosives. Interesting indeed. And SP intensiveGǪ
No Gallente or Caldari Heavy
And likely no Minmatar Heavy, either. At one point in the video they scroll up the Dropsuits skill screen. We noticed the Amarr Commando there (and Scout Flight Suit, as well!), but as they pass up the skills, there was no Gallente Heavy or Caldari Heavy to be found.
They did not scroll down on the screen, but I suspect Minmatar Heavy wasn't going to be found lower. (For the record, no Amarr Scout, either.)
Armor Modules
YeahGǪnot going to touch this subject much. Suffice to say the new modules have not found a rabid fanbase yet, but there is some hope that the stats will be adjusted to something more usable before they end up on the market.
Here's hoping.
TL;DR New suit specialization, Commando, spotted in video. It will suck unless it has two light weapon slots, in which case, it will be very, very interesting.
No new racial Heavy suits. We're all stuck with Amarr still.
New armor modules are underwhelming, but there are several threadnaughts underway about changing the stats. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:27:00 -
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Supposedly we'll be getting placeholder models for the other racial heavies. I'm too lazy to look this up, but the information is out there in a topic written by Jenza. Honestly, this is what should have happened months ago if the only issue as to why we still only have one racial heavy is because the art department fell behind... |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
810
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:28:00 -
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Why can't I hold all these nova knives? |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Supposedly we'll be getting placeholder models for the other racial heavies. I'm too lazy to look this up, but the information is out there in a topic written by Jenza. Honestly, this is what should have happened months ago if the only issue as to why we still only have one racial heavy is because the art department fell behind...
Is this confirmed?
I know its what we all wanted and thought should have been there from the start but has CCP acknowledged that thread and committed to doing it. |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Supposedly we'll be getting placeholder models for the other racial heavies. I'm too lazy to look this up, but the information is out there in a topic written by Jenza. Honestly, this is what should have happened months ago if the only issue as to why we still only have one racial heavy is because the art department fell behind...
Not to be a downer, but I'm not optimistic on this one.
At the very least, the skills for the placeholders weren't in the build shown in the video, while the skills for the Commando and the Flight Scout Suit were in the video.
CCP could be doing it as variants on the market, however, which I didn't get a glimpse at. In which case we'd have things like the Heavy Type II again. (I could live with that.) |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
673
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:37:00 -
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I would accept an amarr heavy as a gallente heavy placeholder.
As long as they don't forget to add the actual racial suit when its ready.
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Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
261
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:20:00 -
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The fact that the 3 other heavy suits are still not ready going a month into commercial release is just sad. What could possibly be holding the suits up? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:21:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Let me start by saying: this is not a whine thread. Just communicating how the next built will likely affect Heavy players based on info mined from the latest video release.
There isn't a lot in there for us, is the sad part. But I'll share what I got:
New Suit Specialization: Commando
Amarr Commando ak.0 suit spotted at the fitting screen in the video. Prototype has:
2 Hi Power Slots 1 Low Power Slot 1 Equipment Slot 1 Grenade Slot 1 or 2 Light Weapon Slot 0 or 1 Sidearm Weapon Slot
Why the confusion about the slots? Because the Heavy in the video was equipped with a Sniper Rifle and SMG. You can put a sidearm in any weapon slot you like, so there is hope yet that the suit has two Light Weapon Slots.
If it does not have two Light Weapon Slots, I'm going to venture out on a limb and say the overwhelming community response will be that the Commando Suit sucks balls. Losing the versaility of the Heavy Weapon Slot and two Low Power Slots for a single Equipment Slot is absolutely not worth it, in my humble opinion.
If it does have two Light Weapon Slots, I feel the Commando Suit just might have a bright future. I predict people will still feel it's underpowered initially, but the more creative of you will find some wicked ways to use two Light Weapons and Equipment on one suit.
By having fewer module slots but the same CPU/PG (as it seemed in the video), you could do thinks like run a Proto Sniper, Advanced shotgun, and Remote Explosives. Interesting indeed. And SP intensiveGǪ
No Gallente or Caldari Heavy
And likely no Minmatar Heavy, either. At one point in the video they scroll up the Dropsuits skill screen. We noticed the Amarr Commando there (and Scout Flight Suit, as well!), but as they pass up the skills, there was no Gallente Heavy or Caldari Heavy to be found.
They did not scroll down on the screen, but I suspect Minmatar Heavy wasn't going to be found lower. (For the record, no Amarr Scout, either.)
Armor Modules
YeahGǪnot going to touch this subject much. Suffice to say the new modules have not found a rabid fanbase yet, but there is some hope that the stats will be adjusted to something more usable before they end up on the market.
Here's hoping.
TL;DR New suit specialization, Commando, spotted in video. It will suck unless it has two light weapon slots, in which case, it will be very, very interesting.
No new racial Heavy suits. We're all stuck with Amarr still.
New armor modules are underwhelming, but there are several threadnaughts underway about changing the stats. No versatility? LOL? Now everyone gets to run around in a proto suit with a GEK and CBR7. This is exactly what the community has been whining about. Now, they won't have to pay any price or take any risk, or specialize in anything AV so they can still lolstomp noobs and take care of people that specialize in vehicles.
This is exactly what they've wanted. No risk, specialization, all reward, so they can continue to crush me and random noobs. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
191
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:23:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:The fact that the 3 other heavy suits are still not ready going a month into commercial release is just sad. What could possibly be holding the suits up?
They are confused about the colors. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
759
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:24:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:The fact that the 3 other heavy suits are still not ready going a month into commercial release is just sad. What could possibly be holding the suits up?
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:41:00 -
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We are spoilt, we dont understand how games are made. Dont you know CCP is a great company who developed EVE from pong and it now stands alone as the greatest online experience.
This game will not have sequels it will be around for the next 10 years so just enjoy this revolutionary game. Everything you expect will arrive soon.
right off a cliff.
CCP Eterne said an update should be out early next month. Hopefully the suits plus some of the other weapons are implemented then but obviously that is just my expectation until we get an official statement. |
Omen Astrul
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:45:00 -
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What do people think EVE started with hundreds of ships for each race? |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:48:00 -
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Omen Astrul wrote:What do people think EVE started with hundreds of ships for each race?
Are we asking for hundreds of suits or simply 12 basic models for which the stats and configurations have already been done. |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
261
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:50:00 -
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Omen Astrul wrote:What do people think EVE started with hundreds of ships for each race? No, but they atleast started with the basic ships of each class. |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
267
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:59:00 -
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Omen Astrul wrote:What do people think EVE started with hundreds of ships for each race?
It's more like if they had launched EVE with cruisers for every race, but only Gallente and Minmatar had Frigates and only Amarr had Battleships.
Seems a bit borked, right? |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
271
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Posted - 2013.06.12 17:08:00 -
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it's steal not steel |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
261
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Posted - 2013.06.12 17:10:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:it's steal not steel No it's not R-tard. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.12 17:10:00 -
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It also has about 400 less EHP, and I know they were saying before that commando's have reduced speed...cuz, you know...that makes a LOT of sense.... |
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