DUST Search - CCP don't feed the trolls please.

Cosgar wrote:

Likes:
1. Concept
2. EVE connection
3. Friendly Fire

Things I would like to see changed:
1. Execution
2. No EVE alliance = No orbital!
3. Friendly FIre in FW

Why I like the Concept of PC:
This is a combination of points 1, 2, and 3 in my likes. These battles actually matter and the stakes are much higher than throwing away a bunch of ISK to pad personal stats. Tactics and strategy (which have been missing from Dust as of late) come into account because you can't just blob up and zerg everything and clones are finite.

What ruins PC:
Having the warbarge in PC is literally a spit in the face to everyone that bought UVTs and took the time to form an EVE alliance, plain and simple. Get rid of the warbarge and you'll see more Dust corps interacting with EVE players. If anyone complains, tell them "Welcome to New Eden." Besides, I've seen several good corps put in work without even needing an orbital. Having access should be a privilege for those with an alliance, not a right to all.

Also, in any battle that affects EVE influence, I would motion for FF to be turned on at all times. This is the kind of importance these battles need, along with higher rewards for those higher stakes. If you make this change, you'll see a lot of more tactically oriented corps rise in the ranks and not just pub stompers blobbing everything in Caldari Logi suits, Thukker Grenades and TAC ARs. (Yes people still run around with TAC ARs)

Edit: Defenders and Attackers in PC need to feel like defenders and attackers. Skirmish 1.0 would really help with this. Neutral territory could work as well if there were an implemented system where two sides engage on unclaimed territory.

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Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 662	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:07:00 - [1] - Quote There are people within our community, who seem to get a kick out of being vile trolls. The scream and complain on the forums poisoning our community, making it appear hostile when really we are a mostly intelligent and considerate group. When these people, whom make vile, non-constructive thread post, please don't comment in their threads. You're just feeding them. It's like giving a crackhead money. The crackhead now knows you are an easy mark and will keep hounding you, and whatever money you do give them will never satisfy their addiction. They don't use the money for food. They use it for crack. So when you post on the trolls thread, you're not being helpful and communicating with the community; you're feeding the trolls. As a result, they will be energized and continue to spew their hate to an even greater degree on these forums, creating new threads, pushing important, constructive threads off the first page and into obscurity. This is a good example If you feel like a troll thread is raising a legitimate concern, you would do better creating your own thread or finding one of the MANY far less trollish ones that speak on the same or similar topics like this one.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 664	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:12:00 - [2] - Quote Yes thats a very good point. Its wierd they picked that thread to answer in. When the WarRaven post is better in every way.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 23701	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:13:00 - [3] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=933456

2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:31:00 - [4] - Quote +1. Also, get some ISDs involved and actually moderate this forum. I'm so sick of having to sift through dribble to find something worth reading
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 666	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:36:00 - [5] - Quote I like how the first two responses were trolls
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1404	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:50:00 - [6] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=933456#post933456 See? This is the kind of stuff we needed a long time ago. Much more productive than giving the squeaky wheel the grease.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 669	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: +1. Also, get some ISDs involved and actually moderate this forum. I'm so sick of having to sift through dribble to find something worth reading But please don't over moderate it! I see so many posts getting moved to other forum sections that don't belong there. They move so many good DISCUSSIONS to the feedback section when they don't BELONG there! Pisses me off.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 23730	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:53:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=933456#post933456 See? This is the kind of stuff we needed a long time ago. Much more productive than giving the squeaky wheel the grease. Sometimes it takes a reminder. :) Not that it should.

Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 669	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:54:00 - [9] - Quote I'm tempted to make a thread listing all the forum trolls, maybe with links to them trolling. Cosgar is one of them. Kitten Empress whatever.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 669	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:55:00 - [10] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Cosgar wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=933456#post933456 See? This is the kind of stuff we needed a long time ago. Much more productive than giving the squeaky wheel the grease. Sometimes it takes a reminder. :) Not that it should. Don't feed the troll Soxfour

UNIsTaken AMC Dropbears 25	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:55:00 - [11] - Quote I second the request for extra moderators and would like to nominate myself. My post history will speak for itself
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 634	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:58:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=933456#post933456 See? This is the kind of stuff we needed a long time ago. Much more productive than giving the squeaky wheel the grease. FoxFour is the most consistent communicator on the DUST team. We just need to clone him a dozen times.
Absolute Idiom II BetaMax. CRONOS. 111	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:59:00 - [13] - Quote Sontie wrote: I'm tempted to make a thread listing all the forum trolls, maybe with links to them trolling. Cosgar is one of them. Kitten Empress whatever. How would that not be feeding them?
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1404	Posted - 2013.06.12 14:04:00 - [14] - Quote Sontie wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Cosgar wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=933456#post933456 See? This is the kind of stuff we needed a long time ago. Much more productive than giving the squeaky wheel the grease. Sometimes it takes a reminder. :) Not that it should. Don't feed the troll Soxfour Troll? FoxFour is a bigger troll than I could ever want to be. Besides' I was genuinely serious.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 671	Posted - 2013.06.12 14:07:00 - [15] - Quote Absolute Idiom II wrote: Sontie wrote: I'm tempted to make a thread listing all the forum trolls, maybe with links to them trolling. Cosgar is one of them. Kitten Empress whatever. How would that not be feeding them? You're right, they crave attention. I was just hoping it would get people to stop responding to them like I'm about to do Cosgar wrote: Troll? FoxFour is a bigger troll than I could ever want to be. Besides' I was genuinely serious. Do you read your own posts? You rarely if ever post anything constructive, and when you do, it's often ironic or satirical. Or maybe I'm mistaking Cosgars alt for Cosgar? If so I apologize
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 809	Posted - 2013.06.12 14:08:00 - [16] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: +1. Also, get some ISDs involved and actually moderate this forum. I'm so sick of having to sift through dribble to find something worth reading I nominate myself.
Panther Alpha Lone Wolf Going Solo 493	Posted - 2013.06.12 14:11:00 - [17] - Quote CCP are the biggest Trolls ... they trolled us for months in the Open Beta, and now they LOL-Trolled us with Uprising. CCP don't feeds Trolls. CCP "creates" Trolls.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 671	Posted - 2013.06.12 14:17:00 - [18] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Likes: 1. Concept 2. EVE connection 3. Friendly Fire Things I would like to see changed: 1. Execution 2. No EVE alliance = No orbital! 3. Friendly FIre in FW Why I like the Concept of PC: This is a combination of points 1, 2, and 3 in my likes. These battles actually matter and the stakes are much higher than throwing away a bunch of ISK to pad personal stats. Tactics and strategy (which have been missing from Dust as of late) come into account because you can't just blob up and zerg everything and clones are finite. What ruins PC: Having the warbarge in PC is literally a spit in the face to everyone that bought UVTs and took the time to form an EVE alliance, plain and simple. Get rid of the warbarge and you'll see more Dust corps interacting with EVE players. If anyone complains, tell them "Welcome to New Eden." Besides, I've seen several good corps put in work without even needing an orbital. Having access should be a privilege for those with an alliance, not a right to all. Also, in any battle that affects EVE influence, I would motion for FF to be turned on at all times. This is the kind of importance these battles need, along with higher rewards for those higher stakes. If you make this change, you'll see a lot of more tactically oriented corps rise in the ranks and not just pub stompers blobbing everything in Caldari Logi suits, Thukker Grenades and TAC ARs. (Yes people still run around with TAC ARs) Edit: Defenders and Attackers in PC need to feel like defenders and attackers. Skirmish 1.0 would really help with this. Neutral territory could work as well if there were an implemented system where two sides engage on unclaimed territory. This is a really good post and makes me think maybe Cosgar's Alt isn't you... Or you let your frustration get the better of you to often, which causes you to transform into a troll, like a weretroll
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1404	Posted - 2013.06.12 14:19:00 - [19] - Quote Sontie wrote: This is a really good post and makes me think maybe Cosgar's Alt isn't you... Or you let your frustration get the better of you to often, which causes you to transform into a troll, like a weretroll If you saw why I got banned you would probably understand why I went into troll mode.


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