Shields need to give their user a larger scan signature and larger hitbox. Armor should affect max stamina and stamina regen rate.

I will summarise. You will likely try to argue against this summary with an argument I have already countered in my thread, so it is still good reading material. I doubt you'll bother, though.

- Armour gets less HP than shields overall, unless they stack plates in which case they cannot rep and move at the speed of a heavy.
- Armour gets much much slower regen than shields, the constant regeneration does not compensate for this sufficiently.
- Having a logistics player use an armour rep prevents them from shooting their gun, which is significantly more useful.
- Armour moves slower than shields, making it easier to hit a player using armour
- A logistics repairer repairs at a similar rate to shield regen. Using the prototype focused rep in an example is extremely biased.

There are very few areas where armour beats shield. Can you give me an example of one?


At this point, you realise that your argument is weak/wrong, so you begin to say "who cares anyway?"

Believe it or not, I'd actually quite like to play a balanced game.

But the new armor dont have speed penalty and are pretty much equal to shield tanking. A little worse, but also a little less on the requirements and dont compete with damage mods.

Plus, and heres the big kicker, introducing penalty-less armor mods just opens up these mods to players who never would have used them before. Your caldari logi can now tank BOTH armor and shield without worrying about speed.

The debate of armor versus shield tanking seems relatively pointless since most suits can do some of both. The big questions are shield tanking versus damage mods and armor tanking versus speed tanking.

Right now it seems like shield tanking is a bit OP compared to damage mods, but not crazy. But speed tanking is way OP compared to armor tanking. Thats why you dont see armor a lot, it has very little to do with the balance between shield and armor.

Ugh, the amount of inordinate bitching in this thread is indescribable. Don't you people use your heads?

- It was a five second glimpse of something that isn't even in the game yet. It could be a placeholder for all you know.
- The armor plates give you less, but they a) don't have a movement speed penalty, b) are cheaper and c) don't require as much PG/CPU.
- As much as you'd like to believe otherwise, you're not a game designer and you aren't able to tell if something is balanced or unbalanced just by looking at stats unless it's absolutely obvious that the weapon will be broken.

Yes your right but your forgetting one thing, we do not have spotting.