DUST Search - Attention Dust514 Playerbase: PS+ Subsciption is required for PS4 Dust514

LXicon wrote:

Knightshade Belladonna wrote:

Imp Smash wrote:

Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play.

Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc.

That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool.

I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play.

Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only.

They announced this months ago, an exec leaked it. If you purchase any second hand game you will be required to pay for + to have online content or you will have tp pay an unlock fee for the game.

i'm still waiting for an official statement regarding access to normal multiplayer for new games like we are currently getting for free. the OP's video is about shared games and the arstechnica screen shot is about what you get with PS+. is "immersive multiplayer" the cross game chat?

i would really like a quote or source that actually says something like "if you buy a new online FPS for PS4, you'll need PS+ to play it online", not "multi play"Gäó not "immersive multiplayer"Gäó. if someone comes across such a source today please reply back here. i'll be keeping my eyes out for one as well.

--edit--

ahh, crap. confirmed by Shuhei Yoshida's twitter ( @yosp : President of Worldwide Studios, Sony Computer Entertainment. )
see his tweet replay here : https://twitter.com/9Matt2/status/344364864619294720


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General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:05:00 - [1] - Quote So much for "free-to-play" on the PS4, no? Oddly, enough, I came to the forum expecting to see an uproar about this new revelation only to find out that it seems the playerbase is as of yet still unaware of the situation. Pause the following video at 12 seconds and read the bottom line of the fine print disclaimer on the screen. Read it very carefully. Then read it again..... very carefully. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stiYAbaJY1w Discuss?
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:16:00 - [2] - Quote Karazantor wrote: Hayden Reed wrote: Sony hasn't been doing well? What universe do you live in? Massive reduction in revenue, even though still cash positive, is considered 'not doing well' in the business world, and leads to desperate decisions. Execs bonuses are at stake here Yeah, just take a look at Apple. Stock prices have dropped by massive amounts, just because they can't manage to dominate the cell industry as much as they used to. They are still king of kings, but they're stocks have taken a more massive hit than any other international cell manufacturer..... go figure.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:18:00 - [3] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: U can't run a free service forever luckly the well traind m-drones are allready used to this lol. Also I play a lot more games than just dust so I would need a sub anyway. So this really is not a factor Meh, none of that is of any concern to me, really. Just stoked to see Sony convince all of it's fanbros to PRAISE the very video where Sony announces to them that they will be required to pay for online gaming on the PS4. Pimp move, Sony.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:23:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I'd pay for PS+ membership since it has great benefits. The only reason I don't now is because I've never had to. I already pay for a PS+ membership. Mostly because I couldn't give 2shiznits about bragging about console superiority. I'm a gamer, I spend money on good gaming regardless of platform, end of story. What matters here is the biggest fanbro taunt in the fanfail console war between Sony/Micro kiddies just got thrown off the battlefield. Kind of hilarious that Sony's tricked all of it's faithful into CHEERING the initial revealing of that info. If I was a rabid fanboy, I'd feel like an idiot right now. Just sayin....
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:27:00 - [5] - Quote IamI3rian wrote: I don't believe it says anywhere that all multiplayer games require the plus membership. Then you don't believe your eyes? Cause that's exactly what the disclaimer in that video is saying. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news (seriously not serious)
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:28:00 - [6] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: I think I'll survive with only $5 a month. I think you will too. :)
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:35:00 - [7] - Quote Hayden Reed wrote: That is literally cheaper than a bag of apples. People still buy apples by the bag?
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2013.06.11 11:39:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: General Technique wrote: Hayden Reed wrote: That is literally cheaper than a bag of apples. People still buy apples by the bag? Yeah we do! Pics or it didn't happen
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2013.06.11 12:09:00 - [9] - Quote Sonicshadow006 wrote: The PS4 is going to go downhill. I mean what the hell, only singleplayer for buying the console? And then we gotta pay extra to play online! Wow, Microsoft might be successful if they don't pull up paid online services ****. I might buy a WiiU or 3DS this year. No, bro. You'll get a PS4.... and you will pay for PS+ ......... and you will eat your medicine and like it. It's not so bad. Just look at all the fanbros comment about how it's not so bad. Oh, by the way, PS+ is priced exactly the same way/amount as Xboxlive Gold is. So, wrap your head around that one, LOL.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2013.06.11 12:19:00 - [10] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Sonicshadow006 wrote: The PS4 is going to go downhill. I mean what the hell, only singleplayer for buying the console? And then we gotta pay extra to play online! Wow, Microsoft might be successful if they don't pull up paid online services ****. I might buy a WiiU or 3DS this year. Nope, Microsoft will keep the same subscription model. PS4 will add a subscription model also but it will be cheaper and come with free goodies, so if you take advantage of the discounts and free stuff PS+ is free. This is so weird. How can $5 a month be cheaper than.... $5 a month? I'm having trouble understanding that. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/join?cid=ps-b-amca-xboxplatform-12+months+of+xbox+live+gold-e_94bf4c8d70c31f00fee389b691186380 PS4 does win the console pricing battle, for now, though. That's until the release the specs limitations on that $399 model and compare it to the inevitable $499 premium model. FYI Microsoft released a $399 xbox360 model on day1 and will likely do the same with the Xbox1 They just didn't try to advertise the general price of the console as being that low because they new that the cheap version wasn't feaure complete (no hardrive, wireless controller, etc...) Maybe Microsoft didn't advertise like that for a reason. Maybe they know something about backlash that Sony has yet to realize? Who knows..... time will tell.

General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2013.06.11 12:21:00 - [11] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Last year if you spent $50 you received a $10 credit, that dropped the price to $40 and I get 2-5 games a month that I like. I gave my son a year on plus for his birthday and he loves it. All his money can be spent on other things and he still gets "new" games. I don't have one complaint about plus. Last year, I bought my xboxlive gold account over xboxlive for a discount price of $34.99 usd, so...... Discounts happen? Congrats.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2013.06.11 12:22:00 - [12] - Quote Jhakl wrote: Ahhhh.... You own a PS3 you already have an account - you log into it every time you turn it on. So maybe now the ps4 may or may not require an active ps+ account? So... ummm never mind. If someone gets their wish and the sky turns purple, they'll still whine and complain about the grass being green. LOL. What they call this stage again? It starts with the letter D or something, and reminds me of some long river in North Africa
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2013.06.11 12:28:00 - [13] - Quote Sonicshadow006 wrote: General Technique wrote: Sonicshadow006 wrote: The PS4 is going to go downhill. I mean what the hell, only singleplayer for buying the console? And then we gotta pay extra to play online! Wow, Microsoft might be successful if they don't pull up paid online services **. I might buy a WiiU or 3DS this year. No, bro. You'll get a PS4.... and you will pay for PS+ ......... and you will eat your medicine and like it. It's not so bad. Just look at all the fanbros comment about how it's not so bad. Oh, by the way, PS+ is priced exactly the same way/amount as Xboxlive Gold is. So, wrap your head around that one, LOL. I don't care about prices, but I didn't expect this from Sony, the main reason people bought a PS3 is because it has FREE ONLINE**. And, Sony are encouraging people to comment about the PS4 being cool. Finally, another rational gamer whom isn't content on being a blind head-in-the-sand fanbro. You're absolutely right. All of us here know damn well that one of the biggest selling points for the PS3 was that PSN was free-to-play over. We've all enjoyed that feature at one point. There's no reason to act like it doesn't matter that Sony is taking that away, except rabid fanboyism. It's a blow to the platform, and a bit of a backstab to the loyal fanbase, but whateva we're all PS+ bros now so lets move forward
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 33	Posted - 2013.06.12 00:00:00 - [14] - Quote LXicon wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Imp Smash wrote: Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play. Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc. That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool. I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play. Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only. They announced this months ago, an exec leaked it. If you purchase any second hand game you will be required to pay for + to have online content or you will have tp pay an unlock fee for the game. i'm still waiting for an official statement regarding access to normal multiplayer for new games like we are currently getting for free. the OP's video is about shared games and the arstechnica screen shot is about what you get with PS+. is "immersive multiplayer" the cross game chat? i would really like a quote or source that actually says something like "if you buy a new online FPS for PS4, you'll need PS+ to play it online", not "multi play"Gäó not "immersive multiplayer"Gäó. if someone comes across such a source today please reply back here. i'll be keeping my eyes out for one as well. --edit-- ahh, crap. confirmed by Shuhei Yoshida's twitter ( @yosp : President of Worldwide Studios, Sony Computer Entertainment. ) see his tweet replay here : https://twitter.com/9Matt2/status/344364864619294720 LOL, bro. You didn't really need that confirmation. The disclaimer was pretty damn clear in the video I linked to in the OP. Only reason you so reason to doubt it was.... denial. Nothing more nothing less. Anywho, welcome to PS+, fanbro. Glad to have you in the club
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 33	Posted - 2013.06.12 00:09:00 - [15] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: I actually dont care. Shocking I know. You still get the PS+ Benefits (17 Games a year, discounts, Betas .etc) Its not like you're just getting online. Although, with this extra money, I hope Sony put it towards securing PSN (Dont want a repeat of last year), increases PS4 download speed, I get 1.5mb/s on Steam (A free service) and around an average of 500mb/s (Sometimes worse) on PS3. And one last thing, I really hope once one person in a household or one account on the PS4 has PS+, every account or member of the household get to go online, anything else is a huge rip-off. (I also hope the PS4 comes bundled with a year or even a month of PS+, just because I want it to ) So, to sum all of that rambling up in one sentence........ You actually don't care, but you actually find the CURRENT PS+ standards to be "a huge rip-off"? That kind of reminds me of this new-hire guy at work last year, who came in boasting about how he didn't really need the $30hr job and was just there to "improve his credit postitioning for whatever blah blah blah". Bragbro actually sat down right next to me and started bawling like a little baby when he found out his name was on a lay-off list a few months later. Took so much maturity and bearing for me not to laugh my ass off at him right then and there.... but my coworker bro behind me has no such bearing, and to this day I can still clearly hear that ruckus laugh of his. Bragbro cursed him to hell then storrmed out the building (securing his omission from the "re-hire list" that was posted 4 weeks later. turns out it was just a temporary layoff while management sorted out a conflict with Union leadership over the newhires. LMFAO) EDIT: Not that it matters, but the funniest part of old Bragbro's story is that he showed up to work driving a brand new 427 just three weeks before he got laid off. You could smell the new car sent from 20 yards away when he let the top down. Awesome car... foolish owner.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 33	Posted - 2013.06.12 00:23:00 - [16] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: Although, this could be the end of the Online Pass in Sony published games..... hopefully..... Nope, not gonna happen. Sony charging a sub fee only puts money in Sony's pockets. They've done nothing to help devs to avoid revenue losses on used game sales, hence third parties will still continue to require online passes in order make sure all online players have contributed revenue to the game for which they intend to consume server bandwidth from. It's up to the third parties if they want to require online passes or not. Sony could write it into their hosting agreement and "force" third parties to stop requiring online passes, but that will ultimately end up hurting the PS4 playerbase and console sales (take a look at the WiiU for what happens when an arrogont console manufacturer throws a middle finger at third parties)
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 33	Posted - 2013.06.12 00:28:00 - [17] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: You're required to pay for a PS+ subscription to use the PS4. Not just to play Dust. Well to use the PS4 to play online gaming in general, yeah.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 35	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:07:00 - [18] - Quote Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote: It's 60 bucks a year for an eksbawks live gold membership... Just saying. PS+ is getting off cheap. PS+ at $5 a month (non-discounted price) That comes to $60 a year. Just sayin'
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 35	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:13:00 - [19] - Quote Rikilamaru Darkstar wrote: Cosgar wrote: $50/year + discounts for purchases, free games, online storage and early access to betas doesn't seem like that big of a deal. Not like I'm planning on paying anything for Dust 514 anytime soon... and i can do that on my pc for free why pay for internet and then have to pay to use on your machine. Its pretty freakin stupid exactly the reason i hate xbox and luv ps3. well i guess i going purily pc then if thats the case. *purely You'll regret doing that.... evntually. Trust me. PC online shooter gaming ain't all it's been cracked up to be. One word: Hackers If you do go purely PC, I recommend that you primarily stick with Steam. You'll enjoy yourself a lot more that way. You could check out EA's Origin if you'd like, but they do next to nothing against hacks and... well, it's Ea so be sure to take your kneepads and K-Y jelly with you.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2013.06.12 23:19:00 - [20] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Planetside 2 and DCUO won't need Plus to be playable. Sony has said it is the call of the publishers whether or not their games will be infront of or behind the paywall. Nice! Can I has links?