DUST Search - Impatient little kids

Esper Shadows wrote:

Well, the trolls and the whiners are not going to go away. That's just part of running a forum.

But I do understand where CCP is at with DUST 514. And I am hoping, actually expecting that they can do with DUST what they have done with EVE. What they did with EVE is they started out slow and gradually built a great MMO that has outlasted many of its competitors and has a relatively stable playerbase.

CCP can do that with DUST as well given time. Problem is, this F2P playerbase doesn't have the patience. Apparently CCP wants to build up FPS expertise in-house, and probably believes there is no choice but to go that route if they ultimately want to integrate the game with EVE. Outsourcing the codebase for DUST might create massive integration problems and perhaps a mistranslation of the EVE look-and-feel to DUST.

So here we are. Frankly all the whining over the slow progress is not going to make a dime's worth of difference. CCP can only gain experience with FPS and get the proper fixes and patches in place at a certain rate, and no amount of carpet bombing on the forums is going to change that. If its not fast enough for you, you're welcome to play other FPS games, accumulate passive SP, and come back when the next major patch comes in. But at the end of the day, DUST is a ground-breaking attempt at an FPS MMO (or MMO FPS, as the case may be). This is something very new and different and SUCCESS IS NOT GUARANTEED. And if it does happen IT WON'T BE FAST.

I'm fed up with the b*tching at CCP. You're lucky they are willing to bother listening to the players despite the forum abuse. I level criticism at the game mechanics quite often and I try to make helpful suggestions, but it doesn't help when well-meaning commentary is buried under a stinking pile of whiner posts. I get tired of having to filter through it all to find something worthwhile to read.

tl;dr
This is not an ordinary FPS. CCP is doing something new. Have some frigging patience. If you've lost patience, take a break and play something else. Come back later.


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Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2013.06.11 06:31:00 - [1] - Quote Esper Shadows wrote: Well, the trolls and the whiners are not going to go away. That's just part of running a forum. But I do understand where CCP is at with DUST 514. And I am hoping, actually expecting that they can do with DUST what they have done with EVE. What they did with EVE is they started out slow and gradually built a great MMO that has outlasted many of its competitors and has a relatively stable playerbase. CCP can do that with DUST as well given time. Problem is, this F2P playerbase doesn't have the patience. Apparently CCP wants to build up FPS expertise in-house, and probably believes there is no choice but to go that route if they ultimately want to integrate the game with EVE. Outsourcing the codebase for DUST might create massive integration problems and perhaps a mistranslation of the EVE look-and-feel to DUST. So here we are. Frankly all the whining over the slow progress is not going to make a dime's worth of difference. CCP can only gain experience with FPS and get the proper fixes and patches in place at a certain rate, and no amount of carpet bombing on the forums is going to change that. If its not fast enough for you, you're welcome to play other FPS games, accumulate passive SP, and come back when the next major patch comes in. But at the end of the day, DUST is a ground-breaking attempt at an FPS MMO (or MMO FPS, as the case may be). This is something very new and different and SUCCESS IS NOT GUARANTEED. And if it does happen IT WON'T BE FAST. I'm fed up with the b*tching at CCP. You're lucky they are willing to bother listening to the players despite the forum abuse. I level criticism at the game mechanics quite often and I try to make helpful suggestions, but it doesn't help when well-meaning commentary is buried under a stinking pile of whiner posts. I get tired of having to filter through it all to find something worthwhile to read. tl;dr This is not an ordinary FPS. CCP is doing something new. Have some frigging patience. If you've lost patience, take a break and play something else. Come back later. This is true. The big problem, when you get to the bottom of it, is there isn't enough to do. This is where EVE started. As per my comments in the thread on PS2, a lot of those games look pretty (DUST sure doesn't) but the gameplay seems to be rather lacking in depth, i.e. consequences. Hopefully its just a matter of patience on our part.