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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.11 05:18:00 -
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Vehicles that sustained heavy damage (not just the ones on fire), shouldnt be able to be returned unless repaired. Speed of returning a vehicle should be reduced. Stolen vehicles shouldnt be returned to the owner at the end of a match.
Just some issues I hope CCP looks into somewhere down their roadmap. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:42:00 -
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Esper Shadows wrote:Well look at it this way, your proto dropsuit can cost a million+ ISK, but nobody can hack it and steal it. But million+ ISK vehicles CAN. Now, its fun to hack stuff, so hacking vehicles is in the game. But its fair to at least return it to the owner if it doesn't get blown up during the match.
Infantry-only players don't have to worry about their suits getting hacked. But vehicle-specced players have to worry about it every match. Try to put yourself in the other guy's shoes.
If they hack it back, sure, but if its in the hands of the enemy, then no.
You lost the vehicle, its your own fault and should have to deal with the consequence. Just be glad that the tank doesnt end up in the salvage of the stealer. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:13:00 -
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Esper Shadows wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about hacking/stealing vehicles. Although I do have some serious grief with blueberries stealing my sh*t or preventing me from recalling. Since its in the game, I can live with it.
I certainly don't whine on team chat trying to save my vehicle if it gets hacked. That's sad. But one idiot's actions should not prompt a code change that impacts everyone who fields a vehicle.
I just don't like it when players who don't field vehicles complain about these esoteric features like what happens to your vehicle after the match if it was hacked but not destroyed. Like its any of there damb business. There's no gain to be had by that feature because the stolen vehicle can't be sold, and most likely you don't have the skill set to field it yourself. Its just griefing vehicle-centric players.
Except that the vehicle being returned to the owner by simply being on the field seems more like a design oversight and doesnt coincide with CCP's reputation for harsh reality You're actually doing the exact same thing he was doing, only this time with words on the forum. Disregarding reason to save some ISKs Is it griefing? No more than it is destroying someone's vehicle with AV.
Your arguments: -I dont like this idea therefore it shouldnt happen (thats more of a biased personal opinion, not a compelling argument) -Its not in the game and therefore shouldnt be in it (this game is still in it's infant stage, theres a lot of balance, game design, and gameplay changes to be made. Nothing is ever final until the fat lady sings) -It costs a lot of ISK and therefore I should get it back (terrible argument in a game where you could lose millions in one match and not from a stolen vehicle) -Its unfair to vehicle users (how is it unfair? You lost the vehicle and now its in enemy hands, think of it like a lesson learned)
Our arguments: -Risk vs reward, you lost the risk so why should you be rewarded? -Lesson learned, maybe it wont happen again, maybe. Cant learn when you arent punished for your own mistake -Makes absolutely no sense for the vehicle to be gracefully handed back at the end of a match, it WOULD make more sense if it was pocketed by the stealer but thats a different topic altogether (one I'll have to argue against) -You let it happen and now you want out the easy way, thats not how it works in New Eden -You can still hack it back, only it wont be as easy as looking the other way when it comes time to destroy it -We could simply destroy it ourselves by ditching it on the roadside or go headfirst into a group of enemy AV, why should you get to keep it if we chose to hold onto it through the match?
Probably more arguments but I'm just going off the top of my head. |
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