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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.06.11 04:30:00 -
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A prototype is, in essence, a proof-of-concept. When prototypical equipment is demo-ed for a military only a small amount exists, and what exists may be unreliable, as it will not yet have gotten much field testing. You would probably not want to go into battle with prototypes.
In short, "prototype" means non-mass-produced demonstration equipment, not state-of-the-art equipment, though it may also be state-of-the-art. If you're looking for a way to say "state-of-the-art" why not just say it?
So anyway, that's my petty pedantic rant for the evening. |
Wolfgang Erikson
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
11
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Posted - 2013.06.11 04:40:00 -
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Just because it is not mass produced or field tested doesn't mean it has defects, higher potential for them, yes. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
4283
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Posted - 2013.06.11 05:09:00 -
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I agree, the fact that we can buy hundreds of them means they're mass produces, and aren't really prototypes. It is a misnomer. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
133
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Posted - 2013.06.11 05:26:00 -
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tech 2, what else is it, requires level 5 skills |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University
Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:06:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I agree, the fact that we can buy hundreds of them means they're mass produces, and aren't really prototypes. It is a misnomer.
Well, as far as the lore is concerned there is an aggressively small number of clone mercenaries, and
most of the higher end or specialized gear we use is not "mass-produced." That said, manufacturing
ability in New Eden is insane to say the least, and even items that are made in small quantities, like
ultra-high end military hardware is produced in massive quantities to what we have today.
Basically, even if there were a million clone soldiers, each going through at least 10 of these rare suits a week,
that kind of production could easily be handled by one manufacturer at one planetary or orbital installation.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
750
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:23:00 -
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In context, the "officer" gear would probably be easier to call prototype, consider the occasionally varied stats and rarity. I guess you could call prototype, "officer" then. As armed forces do mass produce higher quality gear for officers. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
4283
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Posted - 2013.06.11 07:47:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I agree, the fact that we can buy hundreds of them means they're mass produces, and aren't really prototypes. It is a misnomer. Well, as far as the lore is concerned there is an aggressively small number of clone mercenaries, and most of the higher end or specialized gear we use is not "mass-produced." That said, manufacturing ability in New Eden is insane to say the least, and even items that are made in small quantities, like ultra-high end military hardware is produced in massive quantities to what we have today. Basically, even if there were a million clone soldiers, each going through at least 10 of these rare suits a week, that kind of production could easily be handled by one manufacturer at one planetary or orbital installation.
Still no. Prototypes are not sold to consumers like final products. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
739
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Posted - 2013.06.11 07:58:00 -
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Simple solution: swap officer and prototype.
Now, officer gear is the most expensive, only affordable by those who've worked bloody hard for it, and prototype gear is found on the battlefield, is extremely limited in amount, and has incredibly boosted performance compared to anything else. |
RINON114
B.S.A.A.
General Tso's Alliance
209
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:29:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Simple solution: swap officer and prototype.
Now, officer gear is the most expensive, only affordable by those who've worked bloody hard for it, and prototype gear is found on the battlefield, is extremely limited in amount, and has incredibly boosted performance compared to anything else.
I actually really like this (and yes I'm aware that it was posted previously).
Good idea, +1. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
349
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:47:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Simple solution: swap officer and prototype.
Now, officer gear is the most expensive, only affordable by those who've worked bloody hard for it, and prototype gear is found on the battlefield, is extremely limited in amount, and has incredibly boosted performance compared to anything else.
Officer gear has its own significance, referring to equipment that has been specially modified by some NPC to outperform the normal market variants. Unlike the normal gear, including what is currently called the "prototype" tier, it isn't and never should be available through normal means.
And those officer mods still aren't prototypes. Those modifications have been around for a while and have been field tested. They're rare, but they're not prototypical.
Patoman Radiant wrote:tech 2, what else is it, requires level 5 skills
T2 also has its own meaning, referring to something that is highly specialized and technologically advanced. They're not intended to be just straight up "better". That said, I've argued for a move to a T1/T2 system for dropsuits and vehicles.
Wolfgang Erikson wrote:Just because it is not mass produced or field tested doesn't mean it has defects, higher potential for them, yes.
Although I would agree that to deserve the name prototype, it should have some sort of technology that none of the other suits have. Something that does push the limits and something "new" not just higher quality versions of the current tech, because that's just an upgrade.
I guess I agree with you, but not necessarily in your exact argument, if that makes sense.
A prototype doesn't have to introduce a new technology, it just has to be an early model of some design. When our militia suits were first being created there would have been someone testing out prototypes of them. Hell, when I make software for a customer I build prototypes of the interface so they can see what it will look like. None of this introduces new technologies. |
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Aran Abbas
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
60
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Posted - 2013.06.11 11:44:00 -
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"Tryhard" |
Stephen Rao
Intrepidus XI
Omega Commission
32
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:16:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:"Tryhard"
Haha, or how about: "Compensation" |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1324
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:25:00 -
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William Shakespeare wrote:What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1522
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:58:00 -
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Just call it complex. Top tier modules are already called complex mods. |
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