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Wrath Red-Feather
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:39:00 -
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I honestly feel that this should be done, how can CCP say our choices have consequences when we are missing 5 racial drop suits? Assuming a heavy wants to play in PC/FW he needs proto gear, Scouts can move to assault suits or become nova knifing wimatar
The gallente scout isn't all that great it trys to play the part of saboteur but sadly without stealth equipment it kinda falls flat. I digress. It is only fair that we get a refund on SP spent on drop suits, not only to the heavies but the scouts as well!
Please discuss!
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:25:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Naaah just start saving up SP if you REALLY want to have that suit on day one.
That way if someone wants to show off/have that advantage they have to plan a bit ahead.
That makes no sense at all. You are saying we should save SP for another suit, you do know it costs around 2.7m SP(One of the highest SP sinks) for a full proto, racial suit. You want someone to drop 5.4m into drop suits? You are mad. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 01:29:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:I'm generally quite anti-respec and while I personally would just save the SP up in advance of the new suits being released and enjoy the options I could see a reasonable case being made for one time suit only refund to those already speced into that frame type.
I would also explicitly state that this is during the release of the initial racial suits only. CCP will continue to add content over the years and building in a constant respec as they add new things is a flawed method. So one time refund of suit only points as the initial racial variants are released could work, anything beyond that and it's a no go.
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Exactly, just a one time refund of drop suit SP because of this. It's not fair to to only bring out two classes full line of suits but put scout and heavy on the side. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 01:37:00 -
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Brutus Va'Khan wrote:Probably not going to happen. As for my Minmatar fatsuit...
CCP, why you no like heavies!?
Don't be a negativity Nelly! I'm sure if we keep this thread alive we will get a dev response! |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 01:38:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:I better get a respec when pilot suits come out. Peace, Godin 
I hope they release all the missing suits, but lets first start with heavies and scouts, then bug them about awesome sauce suits like that! |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:47:00 -
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This little thread of mine, I'm gonna let it shine.
This little thread of mine, I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.\
I won't let it die.
I'm gonna let it shine.
I Won't let it die.
I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine. |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 07:17:00 -
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No one else agrees this should happen? |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:57:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:I'm not against it in principle , I just think they have to draw the line somewhere. There will always be something new that will make people say "I invested X million SP into this thing, if I KNEW this was coming I wouldn't have bothered".... not excluding the fact that they will tweak and outright change certain bonuses on weapons/suits. Not to mention the people that spec into whatever is "new" at the time, realize "oh this sucks" and want to respec straight back again once the next "new" thing comes out. I see myself playing dust for the long haul and I feel I'll get to every suit I want to try out one day or the other, or i might just focus on one suit as long as i'm interested. Different playstyles I guess.
I'm not saying once a new suit comes out refund SP, I'm just saying heavies and scouts have very slim choices compared to Assault/Logi. They say our choices have consequences but then only give heavies one choice and scouts two. Doesn't seem fair if you ask me. |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 18:03:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Agreed. With Pilot suits comming, us Pilots deserve our Drop suit SP refunded. Making changes is one thing. Adding a suit that was known but delayed is another.
The main reason is fairness. If i really wanted to play a caldari assualt or Ammar Heavey then I can get what i want and never have to use skill points in the wrong trees. But Anyone wanting to be a Min Heavy or Pilot doesn't have the option to get exactly what they want.
So we have unfairness. Some people got what they want with no wasted SP just so they could play. Some did not. Once all Core suits and roles are added then thats it. We have to suck up the changes
Exactly, If we had all the suits I wouldn't be pushing for a refund of SP(only the SP placed in dropsuits) Like I've said before, they say our choices have repercussions but then only give us bare bones drop suits. |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 18:25:00 -
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So you think its fair for heavies and scouts to have slim options while logi/assaults have a full line of suits? How can you be so closed minded. Heavies only have one option. ONE. How can you even think thats fair? How would you feel if your assault suits had only one racial frame while all the other roles had 4?
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:54:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Wrath Red-Feather wrote:So you think its fair for heavies and scouts to have slim options while logi/assaults have a full line of suits? How can you be so closed minded. Heavies only have one option. ONE. How can you even think thats fair? How would you feel if your assault suits had only one racial frame while all the other roles had 4? Did you even go read the link? I am a heavy and I agree heavies and scouts need a respec of SP but only that SP placed into basic frames or racial specialty, which is exactly what CPM Laurent was saying in his posts.
I didn't read fully and glanced over. It was my folly, please forgive me, I digress, LET US RALLY THE MASSES AND LET CCP KNOW JUST HOW TO UNDO THIS GREAT INJUSTICE THEY HAVE FORCED UPON THE PLAYERS! |
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Posted - 2013.06.16 01:02:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Respec options should only come to those needing same race suits that haven't arrived so a ammar heavy can switch to a amar scout or a caldari assault wants caldari heavy not someone that hates his proto heavy an wants a proto minmaninja cuz he gets killed by knifes an his race is actually amar with amar logi, can't happen like that or everyone gonna whine for respect cuz they picked crap two months ago
You think ppl who specced into amarr heavy(the only heavy frame) should only be able to spec into another frame of the same race? That's the worst idea ever. How can you honestly think thats a good idea?
Friends we need to let CCP know what we want! What is fair! What is just for our heavy and scout brothers! |
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Posted - 2013.06.16 23:14:00 -
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I would really like some input from a dev telling us what they plan on doing about this issue! |
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:40:00 -
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Are me and the few who replied to this thread the only ones who care enough to speak? We want answers, we want a timeline! We just want to know whats going on, your plans, some of us are losing faith. REKINDLE THE FAITH! |
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Posted - 2013.06.19 01:03:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Wrath Red-Feather wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Naaah just start saving up SP if you REALLY want to have that suit on day one.
That way if someone wants to show off/have that advantage they have to plan a bit ahead. That makes no sense at all. You are saying we should save SP for another suit, you do know it costs around 2.7m SP(One of the highest SP sinks) for a full proto, racial suit. You want someone to drop 5.4m into drop suits? You are mad. No-ou, I'm just saying that 5,4M SP the price of maxing two things at the same time. And if you don't want to multispec but rather have only the new commando suit then start saving SP now, or don't use up all your June respec points up. If you don't have enough SP in sleeve then the price for using the new gear amongst the first is not running proto while waiting. (gotta admit tho that waiting sucks as we know timetables for new stuff are vague at best)
I would be more agreeable to your suggestion if in fact we had the other racial suits, but we don't. How is it fair to even bring out roles such as pilot or commando without giving us the missing racial suits? |
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Posted - 2013.06.20 04:41:00 -
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No one else wants to show their support for our heavy and scout brothers? |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 04:01:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Wrath Red-Feather wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Naaah just start saving up SP if you REALLY want to have that suit on day one.
That way if someone wants to show off/have that advantage they have to plan a bit ahead. That makes no sense at all. You are saying we should save SP for another suit, you do know it costs around 2.7m SP(One of the highest SP sinks) for a full proto, racial suit. You want someone to drop 5.4m into drop suits? You are mad. Why Do You HAVE to always use Full Proto? I Run STD almost Exclusively, and I have Fun when I'm not Getting Munched By Full Proto Squads. This Man Makes Sense. If you Specced into the Role you Want to play As, then Just Save that SP. Unless your Like Me, and Go "SPs? What can I waste these on Now!"
Did you read what this thread is about? Its not about getting proto its about the lack of racial variants for heavies and scouts. |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:12:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Wrath Red-Feather wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Wrath Red-Feather wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Naaah just start saving up SP if you REALLY want to have that suit on day one.
That way if someone wants to show off/have that advantage they have to plan a bit ahead. That makes no sense at all. You are saying we should save SP for another suit, you do know it costs around 2.7m SP(One of the highest SP sinks) for a full proto, racial suit. You want someone to drop 5.4m into drop suits? You are mad. Why Do You HAVE to always use Full Proto? I Run STD almost Exclusively, and I have Fun when I'm not Getting Munched By Full Proto Squads. This Man Makes Sense. If you Specced into the Role you Want to play As, then Just Save that SP. Unless your Like Me, and Go "SPs? What can I waste these on Now!" Did you read what this thread is about? Its not about getting proto its about the lack of racial variants for heavies and scouts. Yes, and you want to pull you SPs out of that skill them into the new stuff to full Proto the probabe FOTM
No. Heavies only have one choice, scouts only have two. How is a heavy speccing into amarr the FOTM, Or a Sniper going Winmatar FOTM? Did you even read what I've been talking about? |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 02:36:00 -
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Still nothing on missing suits besides "Soon(TM)". CCP give us more hope with details about the missing suits! The commando and pilot suits are cool and all, but adding more roles with out giving us these missing racial suits is demoralizing.
Give us more hope! |
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:03:00 -
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Bumping this because I just want some answers and a time line. I think all our heavy/scout brothers deserve to at least know whats going on. |
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Posted - 2013.06.24 21:36:00 -
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Among other things. We all know that if assaults/logis only had one suit and heavies/scouts have 4 that the forums would be in an uproar. They too would ask about SP refunds on things like dropsuit command, racial frames and want to know about a time line. |
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:55:00 -
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Dumping for my heavy/scout brothers! |
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:54:00 -
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Wrath Red-Feather wrote:Dumping for my heavy/scout brothers! |
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:51:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:Wrath Red-Feather wrote:I honestly feel that this should be done, how can CCP say our choices have consequences when we are missing 5 racial drop suits? Assuming a heavy wants to play in PC/FW he needs proto gear, Scouts can move to assault suits or become nova knifing wimatar The gallente scout isn't all that great it trys to play the part of saboteur but sadly without stealth equipment it kinda falls flat. I digress. It is only fair that we get a refund on SP spent on drop suits, not only to the heavies but the scouts as well! Please discuss! Yes Glad we had this talk
That made me laugh. Bump + a like for you friend |
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