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Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1453
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:03:00 -
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Two Basic Plates
15 more armor hp
Less movement penalty (6 percent as opposed to 10)
Less CPU cost (10 less)
Less PG cost (10 less)
2,145 ISK cheaper
Just saying, if you have the slots, might as well use them.
In fact, overall, it's better to any combination of two basic/enhanced plates than to use one complex. Two enhanced will give you almost 60 more HP over one complex with the same movement speed penalty and PG cost at the expense of needing 10 more CPU and being a little more expensive.
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Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1455
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:08:00 -
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ladwar wrote:yea but if your going for HP complex is the way to go, you know like heavies.. thou most never see it that way.
Not really, the movement speed penalty will reduce your survivability through mobility. This is why Shield Tanking, to this day, is the better option. |
Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1456
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Posted - 2013.06.10 06:00:00 -
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ladwar wrote:mobility isn't why I kill heavies. mobility might help the assault class/logi but a class that already has low mobility it isn't that big of a hit.
It's a massive hit. Movement speed isn't just running, it's starting and turning as well. Mobility on a heavy doesn't matter as much because they have more shields/armor but to a logo it's crucial |
Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1457
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:55:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:It's been discussed before. It's a broken system and I advise my newbros to be absolutely sure that they need the higher tier plates before speccing any higher than 1. It's just not worth it to go any higher for a everyone but a heavy that is going for a pure armor buffer fit. nobody else needs to take that skill any higher, and that should concern CCP as they likely don;t want there to be skills commonly viewed as useless
The skill itself increases the efficacy of the plates, so that definitely helps |
Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1459
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:54:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:ladwar wrote:mobility isn't why I kill heavies. mobility might help the assault class/logi but a class that already has low mobility it isn't that big of a hit. It's a massive hit. Movement speed isn't just running, it's starting and turning as well. Mobility on a heavy doesn't matter as much because they have more shields/armor but to a logo it's crucial Thus why speed penalty from plates shouldnt hurt base movement stat at all. Only sprint, stamina and jumps height. No penalty should hurt an attribute that you can restore back through a module. (like sprint with biotics).
Any thoughts toward modules that decrease mass like Nanofibres for Infantry? |
Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1459
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:13:00 -
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EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:ladwar wrote:mobility isn't why I kill heavies. mobility might help the assault class/logi but a class that already has low mobility it isn't that big of a hit. It's a massive hit. Movement speed isn't just running, it's starting and turning as well. Mobility on a heavy doesn't matter as much because they have more shields/armor but to a logo it's crucial Thus why speed penalty from plates shouldnt hurt base movement stat at all. Only sprint, stamina and jumps height. No penalty should hurt an attribute that you can restore back through a module. (like sprint with biotics). Any thoughts toward modules that decrease mass like Nanofibres for Infantry? Considering we don't have structure, wouldn't the nanofibre just decrease armor amount?
Considering a minister scout has 87 or so armor, I'd take the hit for faster movement speed. |
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