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Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 02:43:00 - [1] - Quote We should make more points for blowing up CRU and SUPPLY DEPOTS. Just like the RAILGUN, BLASTER, and MISSLE INSTILATIONS. At least +150 points for SUPPLY DEPOTS and +200 for CPU because it takes such a long time to blow them up. All we get is +50 for it.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Orion Empire 376	Posted - 2013.06.10 02:45:00 - [2] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86160&find=unread you double posted
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 26	Posted - 2013.06.10 02:54:00 - [3] - Quote we should get more wp for destroying cru's and supply points, it takes like a solid 3-4 minits to kill them as aposed to just 5 shots from a railgun on a turret installation and we can get up to 120 wp for them and they are way less important than cru's and supply points
Raynedog Lightstar O.Q.R.D. 4	Posted - 2013.06.10 03:03:00 - [4] - Quote Perhaps those units could have HP reduce, then players would be able to use WP to call in units they have purchased off the market. This way it fits into the cycle of destruction game feel. In addition it would allow for the default ones on the map to be less durable, were as the more expensive ones players buy and call in could be a bit more difficult.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 26	Posted - 2013.06.10 03:11:00 - [5] - Quote the problem is not people destroying them thats going to happen no matter what, the problem is we cant buy and call down our own installations
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Orion Empire 376	Posted - 2013.06.10 03:16:00 - [6] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the problem is not people destroying them thats going to happen no matter what, the problem is we cant buy and call down our own installations In the greater scheme of things you're absolutely right but i judge actions on the current situation and in the current situation destroying a CRU makes the team with fewer droplinks generally lose. The depressing thing is that those who pop CRUs for WP are the one's that can't be even bothered dropping an uplink or two.
Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 86	Posted - 2013.06.10 03:37:00 - [7] - Quote If you're so starved for WP then you're doing it wrong. There are only a few times where it's tactically advantageous to destroy a supply depot or cru as opposed to capturing them - especially if you're going to waste 3 minutes doing so.
Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 03:58:00 - [8] - Quote As a tanker, if I find I have the time to take out Depots, I do. Makes killing me a little harder. CRUs, though? Only when my squad lead tells me to, or Dominations where I've nothing else to shoot at (I mean seriously, four of them sitting in the redline?)
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 341	Posted - 2013.06.10 04:14:00 - [9] - Quote I think you should get negative points. It should be a tactical decision to blow up an installation that's hurting your team.
PizztOleMan Axis of Chaos 2	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:31:00 - [10] - Quote get ur tank OUT OF THE REDLINE and help ur team... stop farming SP with a GLASS CANNON... here is an idea... make TANX stay OUT OF RED/SAFE ZONE... let them blow up after more than 60 seconds in ur OWN REDLINE... then ul see that ur TANK is broke, and come up with sumthin better than, "I WANT MORE POINTS FOR MY REDLINE GLASSCANNON, non-teamplaying @$$!"

Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 06:31:00 - [11] - Quote If its red it needs to die. Raspberries need to be killed by blueberries.
Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 06:32:00 - [12] - Quote Plus im not on the red line im out there in the middle of battle
Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 06:34:00 - [13] - Quote If it helps my team get an orbital that kills about 15 people then its helping my team to win. By myself i make almost 2000 wp a match with a 180,000 tank. then when everything is blown up i recall my tank or give it to someone in my squad and run out there with a mass driver.
Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 06:38:00 - [14] - Quote I blow stuff up regardless of what it is or where its at
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 29	Posted - 2013.06.10 09:28:00 - [15] - Quote how can u say we should get negitive points for destroying enemy installations and that we dont help our team by doing so??? whats ur reasoning behind that?? how can i effectivly run you over with my murder taxi if there are railgun and blaster turrets all over the map. oo and i bet it would majorly **** u off in PC if u had bought and placed the turrets urself and i was wrecking them in a junk tank wouldnt it ?? especially when we orbital u and ur homies like 3 times in one battle
Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 87	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:31:00 - [16] - Quote Sometimes your team can't hold a CRU or supply depot so at that time it's a legitimate tactic to remove them. They should always be worth some points but not an extraordinary amount to prevent most WP farmers from destroying them - where it sits currently is alright but maybe a drop to 25 points would work out better(so that destroying an empty LAV would get you more points.
Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:25:00 - [17] - Quote I blow up instilations so my squad leader can get points quick for an orbital to help the team. We get 2 to 3 orbitals almost every match.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Orion Empire 389	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:35:00 - [18] - Quote Alucard Demon wrote: I blow up instilations so my squad leader can get points quick for an orbital to help the team. We get 2 to 3 orbitals almost every match. Great. So your squadleader gets to pad his k/d a little and the rest of the team is stuck without a convenient spawn location. Do you really think that taking 4-5 people out of the match for 3-10 seconds has a larger impact than having half of the team running for a minute before they can do something usefull again every time they die? Like others and myself said, the situations in wich destroying the CRU instead of controlling it is beneficial are very limited. Increasing WP just makes even more people do what in the majority of matches is a stupid thing.
Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 87	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:43:00 - [19] - Quote Alucard Demon wrote: I blow up instilations so my squad leader can get points quick for an orbital to help the team. We get 2 to 3 orbitals almost every match. Blow up the turrets to your hearts content as they tend to do more harm than good, I'd rather have CRUs and supply depots around(and likely so would your squad leader). Anything past the enemy red line is fair game though.
Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:48:00 - [20] - Quote My squad leader gives me the order to blow them up. I do what my squad leader commands.

Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 17	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:43:00 - [21] - Quote Alucard Demon wrote: My squad leader gives me the order to blow them up. I do what my squad leader commands. Your squad leader does not command the entire team, only 5 people. Who gave him the right to remove tactical and useful installations? Your PC battles are where he can destroy whatever he likes; in instant battles he should be thinking of everyone on the field instead of his own stats. Maybe he forgets that this is a team effort. Supply depots and CRUs have been limited since Uprising and destroying them causes more harm most of the time. It is easy for one man to hack a CRU and let tons of people spawn before the enemy can react to it. Hacking objectives is a like a beacon to the enemy team and after hacking you still need to wait for it to turn before people can spawn in. Uplinks are limited for team use only and can be destroyed easily. Supply depots are valuable to infantry, when you destroy them, your team cannot get the help they need. Regarding your OP; no, you should not get more points for destroying them as I donGÇÖt think we need to encourage the destruction of useful installations. As far as IGÇÖm concerned CCP should make supply depots as hard to kill as CRUs.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 31	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:33:00 - [22] - Quote why do u seem to think we are destroying the cru's on my teams side? the only times i destroy the cru's on our side of the map is when there is no chance of winning and we aee being redlined by people in proto gear. you are missing the point of this thread, its about time spent destroying the cru's and supply points for very little reward when compared the time it takes to kill a turret, dust and eve are based on risk vs reward when it comes to cost effectivly removing something from the field, and simply put, the time spent destroying cru's and supply points are not worth the risk or reward for the time spent whailing on them. like i said eairler people are goin to kill them reguardless, ur not going to stop it unless u spec totally and completely for AV and we all know how many of u whiny babies do that
Alucard Demon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:44:00 - [23] - Quote Exactly
FatalFlaw V1 ISK Faucet Industries 88	Posted - 2013.06.11 01:04:00 - [24] - Quote Well lets evaluate this: If a tank on your team is damaging a cru or depot, then it was red, so not only were you not using it to your advantage, but the other team was benefiting from it. Your followup will surely be "well we were going to grab it in a second, later, 5 minutes...etc" As already stated, they take a while to destroy... if you don't want it blown up, cap it and keep it blue. Simple.
Rachoi HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2013.06.11 01:11:00 - [25] - Quote iv've upset many people because i take the CRU, and you know what? i'm happy i tick them off, the CRU can be an invaluable sneak around, and then circle a point and squeeze enemies away from it. a SUPPLY DEPOT is useful to EVERYONE, cause guess what tankies? those things can repair you in a pinch, and they give what should be your infantry support more ammo.those damned Supply spots have saved some og my squaddie's tanks from certian destruction, and i do my damnedest to keep those things around. the CRU destruction is not something that needs epitomized, because if you think about it, when an enemy drops one in, you can steal that sucker, and have another place to get people in the feild
Telleth DUST University Ivy League 33	Posted - 2013.06.11 03:54:00 - [26] - Quote Rachoi wrote: iv've upset many people because i take the CRU, and you know what? i'm happy i tick them off, the CRU can be an invaluable sneak around, and then circle a point and squeeze enemies away from it. a SUPPLY DEPOT is useful to EVERYONE, cause guess what tankies? those things can repair you in a pinch, and they give what should be your infantry support more ammo.those damned Supply spots have saved some og my squaddie's tanks from certian destruction, and i do my damnedest to keep those things around. the CRU destruction is not something that needs epitomized, because if you think about it, when an enemy drops one in, you can steal that sucker, and have another place to get people in the feild The reason for blowing them up is to prevent the other team from doing that back to you. If you are defending an objective, then it makes sense to blow the CRU, they tend to help attackers more than defenders. Also when it comes to a domination, if you see your team with uplinks all over the place, or believe that it is the main spawn in point for the enemy, blow it and open up a lull in the spawns to take the objective and move your uplinks in. Heck, if you've already blown the supply depot, the raspberries won't be able to switch to their uplink ready fits until they respawn. There is as much tactical value to destroying installations as there is to keeping them.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 36	Posted - 2013.06.11 18:31:00 - [27] - Quote ^^^^^
Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 91	Posted - 2013.06.16 13:41:00 - [28] - Quote Alucard Demon wrote: My squad leader gives me the order to blow them up. I do what my squad leader commands. Then you should be satisfied by a job well done regardless of how many war points you get out of it.


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