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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
862
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:57:00 -
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There are a number of problems with FW in its current state, but this isn't a major thing like that. It's a little thing to make supporting dust bunnies worth it in EvE.
Right now, there's no point to orbital striking from EvE other than for the lulz or because you want to do it for your corp. A simple LP reward for orbital kills for the EvE player would make people more interested in doing FW strike. It's also an incentive to find a group for it if you want to get LP off of it, as you get more orbitals and more damage done if you're with a decent group.
Basically, give, say, 1 LP per 1k isk destroyed by the orbital. For example, if the orbital kills 3 120k protosuits, then 3 x 120 = 360 and the EvE pilot gets 360 LP for performing the strike. That's just an example number, though, and it gives an incentive for EvE players to do more orbital strikes while not allowing much exploiting (it wouldn't really be economical to 'farm' this system).
This has the added benefit of emphasising the EvE/DUST link as more people get to see EvE orbitals. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
167
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:00:00 -
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NO , laser tactical attack is OP |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
862
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:02:00 -
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This is an example of bad feedback. Would you care to elaborate on 'why' this is a bad idea? Do you think that EvE orbitals should be weaker and that warbarge precision strikes should be the way to go? |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
421
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:05:00 -
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da, I approve. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
167
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:12:00 -
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i agree with your post of incentivise OB from EvE, but i've felt on my skin an OB from EvE and it was inevitable, it's double faster than a normal OB, and the fact there is a ship in orbit should blink across the screen written in capital letters. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
862
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:17:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:i agree with your post of incentivise OB from EvE, but i've felt on my skin an OB from EvE and it was inevitable, it's double faster than a normal OB, and the fact there is a ship in orbit should blink across the screen written in capital letters. For the amount of effort it takes to get a ship to the right system, the right planet, and the right district in a correctly equipped ship (let me assure you, it is significant), it SHOULD give you an advantage. There is also about a 10 second delay between calling the orbital in from the dust merc and the eve player firing the strike. The precision strike hits much faster.
The visibility of ships in orbit is kind of meh. You can see them quite clearly in the sky if you look up, but it's not a game-changing thing. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5022
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Posted - 2013.06.10 02:25:00 -
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Its a small start it shouldn't be too big of a reward but more like sugar on top for normalized FW activity it shouldn't be farmable though which is generally not feasible right now due to war point requirements and lack of isk transfers from dust to eve (though one can view this as a very expensive way to transfer isk between the two games) |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
868
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Posted - 2013.06.10 11:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its a small start it shouldn't be too big of a reward but more like sugar on top for normalized FW activity it shouldn't be farmable though which is generally not feasible right now due to war point requirements and lack of isk transfers from dust to eve (though one can view this as a very expensive way to transfer isk between the two games) At this level, it really isn't something that can be exploited, and it is, as you put it, "like sugar on top". |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5024
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its a small start it shouldn't be too big of a reward but more like sugar on top for normalized FW activity it shouldn't be farmable though which is generally not feasible right now due to war point requirements and lack of isk transfers from dust to eve (though one can view this as a very expensive way to transfer isk between the two games) At this level, it really isn't something that can be exploited, and it is, as you put it, "like sugar on top".
Right hopefully. You do know how dastardly eve players are at times though |
EXASTRA INVICTAS
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its a small start it shouldn't be too big of a reward but more like sugar on top for normalized FW activity it shouldn't be farmable though which is generally not feasible right now due to war point requirements and lack of isk transfers from dust to eve (though one can view this as a very expensive way to transfer isk between the two games) At this level, it really isn't something that can be exploited, and it is, as you put it, "like sugar on top". Right hopefully. You do know how dastardly eve players are at times though Yeah, look at what we did to Incursions. I don't think CCP really intended for those to be as farmable as they are? |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
870
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:44:00 -
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EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its a small start it shouldn't be too big of a reward but more like sugar on top for normalized FW activity it shouldn't be farmable though which is generally not feasible right now due to war point requirements and lack of isk transfers from dust to eve (though one can view this as a very expensive way to transfer isk between the two games) At this level, it really isn't something that can be exploited, and it is, as you put it, "like sugar on top". Right hopefully. You do know how dastardly eve players are at times though Yeah, look at what we did to Incursions. I don't think CCP really intended for those to be as farmable as they are? Or sleepers. Or FW. |
EXASTRA INVICTAS
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its a small start it shouldn't be too big of a reward but more like sugar on top for normalized FW activity it shouldn't be farmable though which is generally not feasible right now due to war point requirements and lack of isk transfers from dust to eve (though one can view this as a very expensive way to transfer isk between the two games) At this level, it really isn't something that can be exploited, and it is, as you put it, "like sugar on top". Right hopefully. You do know how dastardly eve players are at times though Yeah, look at what we did to Incursions. I don't think CCP really intended for those to be as farmable as they are? Or sleepers. Or FW. We're a bunch of right bastards aren't we? Regardless, we need to make EVE ship bombardments "worth it" because right now it's mostly only worth it for the Mercs.
Also (totally unrelated), didn't notice you were in Turalyon Plus! Been eyeing that corp for a while. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
312
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:07:00 -
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1. give eve players feedback on what they actually did. It would be much more rewarding if EVE players were given info on how much butthurt they inflicted.
2. contracts. Let Dust players put out contracts for OB's. EVE player blows stuff up. They get payed. In FW, the faction could pay them. Only once though. No farming. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
870
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:29:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:1. give eve players feedback on what they actually did. It would be much more rewarding if EVE players were given info on how much butthurt they inflicted.
2. contracts. Let Dust players put out contracts for OB's. EVE player blows stuff up. They get payed. In FW, the faction could pay them. Only once though. No farming.
1. Completely agree. There's a combat log right now, which is nice, but if they had killmails they'd be happier I think.
2. I'd be quite interested to see EvE players contract dust mercs to take specific districts as well. The contracting would be an awkward thing to do, as it's connecting the economies more directly, but it's about time something like that happened. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
915
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:48:00 -
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I support LP for OB. I've got pilots jumping through 12 plus gates in hostile territory. Throw them a bone or two, please. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
872
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:56:00 -
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EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: We're a bunch of right bastards aren't we? Regardless, we need to make EVE ship bombardments "worth it" because right now it's mostly only worth it for the Mercs.
Also (totally unrelated), didn't notice you were in Turalyon Plus! Been eyeing that corp for a while.
Why, yes we are. I think the EvE community prides itself on being one of the most exploitative communities in a game.
On your unrelated note: <3, come say hi. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
213
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:48:00 -
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Besides the risk of sitting over a district in low sec for even 20 seconds... It would be nice if the rewards matched the risks. |
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