You are hilarious.

When CCP makes it so I can two shot a well-tanked gunnlogi or madrugar with my Ishukone Assault Forge Gun we will talk.

But until I stop having to reload, or respawn to deal with good tank drivers then no.

None for you.

You are hilarious.

When CCP makes it so I can two shot a well-tanked gunnlogi or madrugar with my Ishukone Assault Forge Gun we will talk.

But until I stop having to reload, or respawn to deal with good tank drivers then no.

None for you.

no reason there should be proto av gear on the market if the tankers who invest 10mil plus into their tanking skills cannot have their proto tanks. as it is now its like you running around in std or adv dropsuit with thousands of invested isk in proto weapons and mods that dont fit your cpu pg range.

Proto tanks fine but quit calling for all AV to be nerfed

Proto tanks fine but quit calling for all AV to be nerfed

If they bring in proto tanks and keep av as is it will still be imbalanced.

Proto tanks will not be much better than the tanks we have now unless ccp gives them a massive cpu/pgu or hp buff.

Av as it stands now IS imbalanced.

A proto swarm can do upwards of 3000 dmg to my 58% dmg res tank.

Forge does around 1800-2500 to armor and more to shields.

Av nades are the worst. Why should a weapon that does not hamper its user in any fitting capacity be able to solo my tank? Why does 1 grenade skill govern all grenades? Why can a player toss down a nano and spam 8 av nades that do upwards of 2000 dmg to literally solo my tank? Av nades are the go to av weapon, they require 0 skill, minimal isk and sp cost and yet they work just as good if not better than a forge or swarm.

Definition of Imbalanced.

Idk what CCP thinks but this is true and signed

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Pffft, try flying a dropship.

Why does 1 grenade skill govern all grenades?

stopped reading half way through. AV is fine honestly, well, AV nades anwyays. There is actually some balance with nades vs tanks. And ive screamed this for forever now. AV grenades do not harm a good shield tank, but will totally decimate an armor tank. Why? AV grenades are vehicle grenades...I know right...duh...but they also have a damage bonus to Armor, so they are weak vs shields. One man with proto av nades can demolish a decent tank. but proto AV is a pretty costly skill to get IMO and the CPU PG that a proto nade costs isn't worth it in my opinion, especially when you'll be fighting more infantry than vehicles use proto mods and weapons and a lower lvl av for that.

But a shield tank is weak against Flux grenades, flux a shield tank once or twice, AV it once or twice and its done for. AV an armor tank 3 or 4 times, which is what it takes for the packed AV nades against a 5k armor tank and its dead if not close to it. Swarms IMO are a joke and have been for awhile. Plasma cannon? pfft might as well shoot at it with a flaylock. Tanks should stay on the move and would be fine that way until you get a couple of guys going hunting and even then a good tanker can take care of that.

If you wanna talk AV vs Vehicles, do something about these stupid lavs running around runnin ppl over. that's BS to have a 2000 shield lav with 900 armor

It's easier to just buff HP on tanks and dropships than to release a new vehicle tier for every vehicle, at least for CCP since they love to take their time. If you nerf current AV, my LLAV will just be unstoppable.

Further, when marauders are released back into the game, they read as PRO in the crosshairs. That's the Prototype marker from Chromosome. I think CCP is moving away from the dropsuit tier type metric and into the vehicle class metric. Just like Logi LAVs don't say basic, advanced or prototype. they say "Logistics" when you hover the gunsight over them.