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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.06.09 20:57:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:omega 015 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Dust Team is multi faceted what one team does the other team is not an expert on. So those responsible for physics controls and balance are not responsible for orchestrating the server being able to orchestrate an orbital artillery strike to smack a pesky destroyer out of the sky, is not responsible for allowing players to trade with each other, is not responsible on how the new suits look like.
Core will continue to be refined, making a good FPS at the core with all colors, models, and sounds removed is still something most people cannot do overnight and takes too much trial and error and some games which had gotten it right seem to have lost their way such as ID software. So 1-2 years? Some studios had spent 12 years trying so and still failing. Well that makes me want to fork over my cash |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
372
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Posted - 2013.06.09 21:03:00 -
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Raj Bhagwandas wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Raj Bhagwandas wrote:Crash Monster wrote:I can't stand the whiny brat trolling haterism that some of you ****s exhibit.
Just because you don't understand the first thing about large software projects don't use your ignorance as an excuse to crap over decent people who are stuck in hard place.
Morons. Not trolling or hating... Just outlined the hateful truth. A lot of people have, and still will criticize the state of Dust 514. In beta? Maybe you're right, let them do they thing. After 'officially' releasing? Nottachance. We should able to criticize a game that has lost its 'beta' tag as much as we want. Should have kept it in beta for another year. Your "truth" is based on the assumption that everyone agrees that the gameplay sucks, wich is subjective, and that no one cares about more content as long as the core gameplay sucks, wich is also subjective. While i see all the same issues as everyone else during every session, i disagree with your assumption. It's not perfect but it's functional and usually does what i expect it to do. I don't hear all that much hating from squad and corp mates either. There seems to be a number of players that find the current core gameplay at least acceptable. And i'll even stronger disagree with the second part of your assumption. I can't wait for racial symmetry to finally be added. I want E-war, new maps, new competitive content, new NPE, new gamemodes and others more than a retweaking of controlls that i and countless others wouldn't even notice. This even ignores the fact that not working on content does not make them fix the core gameplay any quicker. We just won't have any new content. Well, there are a lot more people who think the overall feel of the gameplay suck, than there are who think it's 'acceptable'. Again, there's a minority of people, who think content over gameplay, hell in some cases I agree with that, but in the case of Dust, I find it unacceptable. The game is not fun. It may keep me coming back, but more than anything, that's just me hoping that they've made changes to the game. It has improved, I'll say that much. But as a full release (on paper) it's sub par in its performance as a FPS game, and this needs to be prioritized and rectified asap. Again you saying it's just a minority doesn't make it one. Quite in contrast it's a limited number of names that i see commenting very actively using the the same assertions i just criticed in your post. To me it feels like the perceived discontent with uprising is hugely inflated by a vocal minority, not the other way around.
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thesupertman
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
42
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Posted - 2013.06.09 21:03:00 -
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I want the M. Combat Riffle in 1.2! And PvE!!!! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5014
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Posted - 2013.06.09 21:07:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:omega 015 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Dust Team is multi faceted what one team does the other team is not an expert on. So those responsible for physics controls and balance are not responsible for orchestrating the server being able to orchestrate an orbital artillery strike to smack a pesky destroyer out of the sky, is not responsible for allowing players to trade with each other, is not responsible on how the new suits look like.
Core will continue to be refined, making a good FPS at the core with all colors, models, and sounds removed is still something most people cannot do overnight and takes too much trial and error and some games which had gotten it right seem to have lost their way such as ID software. So 1-2 years? Some studios had spent 12 years trying so and still failing. Well that makes me want to fork over my cash
You have no idea how many people did fork over cash for games of the like. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5017
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Posted - 2013.06.09 21:42:00 -
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omega 015 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm just anxious for 1.2. I would really like to get my hands on those new armor modules because at last armor tanking will be viable. There is more in 1.2 than just those mods that some players are going to like very much. MTACs? woohoo!
Sorry MTACs are like next yearish |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4273
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Posted - 2013.06.09 21:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cosgar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm just anxious for 1.2. I would really like to get my hands on those new armor modules because at last armor tanking will be viable. There is more in 1.2 than just those mods that some players are going to like very much. Tackling? Sorry my lips are sealed but you can get some of the patch notes put together by looking at the recent developer replies. My hopes say its PVE or Skirmish 1.0, but all my experiences so far say no because nothing cool ever happens... I hope my hopes are right, but I know better. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
175
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:05:00 -
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Raj Bhagwandas wrote:Just wandering when the next Dust update will be, to improve upon the game!? LOOOL!! *sniggers* CCP seriously. Please refocus your development road map. Forget about these promised game modes and EVE features, and focus on core gameplay mechanics. None of use really care about new game modes and features, if the core gameplay sucks. It's the truth. The hateful truth. We know it, you know. Everyone knows. This game should still be in beta, despite how you released EVE online, this game shouldn't follow the same path of being continuously improved upon depending on players 'feedback'. It shouldn't take us to tell you that the physics and mechanics of this game aren't suitable for a good FPS. Final release feels rushed, and unnecessary. Seems as though you guys tried to release the game a few months before the PS4 just to make us stick around. Not quite the right way to go guys :/ Lots of potential and talented people at CCP - exploit that! Peace, just wanted to get that off my chest. No trolling intended.
Next update wont be for another 11+ days, CCP is not going to update Dust 514 until the 20th of June. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5017
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:01:00 -
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Guys guys do remember this is a version patch not an expansion.
Eve hasn't really brought in any massive major features in version patches usually. |
Khan noonen-singh
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 11:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf, I appreciate that you are so far the only CPM member I see here much trying to help.
I hope they fix some of the things that are troubling the rest of the community. I personally am trying to adapt to new changes in game as they occur and sadly most of my enjoyment has been coming from goofing off.
Where is the ultimate goal?
Pubs? fac war? pc? for all intents and purposes they are for the most part the same thing.
sure there's deathmatch and king of the hill and skirmish,
but really within the framework there is no real payoff to keep playing. only reason I am playing right now is because my funds need to go to necessities and this is a free game. that's all, and the only reason I'm still playing.
It's a broken game with nothing that other devs haven't done better in other games and nothing really to offer. It should have been in closed beta another 6 months and spend at least a year in open beta.
tacking crap on piecemeal isn't going to cut it in the long run.
If all that is slightly incoherent i don't apologize (lol) work keeps me cranky and too tired to think straight. |
Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:27:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Can you link some quotes, most of their responses have been in the wrong topics lately.
I am gussing some of the following improvements from what I remember reading in the forums from their answers: - Increased range of all weapons as falloff damage has been corrected - Improved explosion hit detections - Improved lag - Improved hit detections as some of it has been made client side instead of server side - Improved nano injector usage again due to updated hit detection vs the client controlled ragdoll - Improved dynamics on how everything works? (also read this somewhere)
Maybe added: - All the racial AR variants, they have mentioned the weapons was under testing - More racial dropsuit variants - Placeholders for the heavy droptsuit for other races than Amarr
Please add more if I missed some input.
I very much enjoy Dust 514 for how it is now, never heard any of my corp members speak ill of Dust. And I look forward to see how it will progress, have bought 3 merc packages and will buy more if CCP manages to continue its development of the game. |
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Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:45:00 -
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Acturus Galaxy wrote:Cosgar wrote:Can you link some quotes, most of their responses have been in the wrong topics lately. I am gussing some of the following improvements from what I remember reading in the forums from their answers: - Increased range of all weapons as falloff damage has been corrected - Improved explosion hit detections - Improved lag - Improved hit detections as some of it has been made client side instead of server side - Improved nano injector usage again due to updated hit detection vs the client controlled ragdoll - Improved dynamics on how everything works? (also read this somewhere) Maybe added: - All the racial AR variants, they have mentioned the weapons was under testing - More racial dropsuit variants - Placeholders for the heavy droptsuit for other races than Amarr Please add more if I missed some input. I very much enjoy Dust 514 for how it is now, never heard any of my corp members speak ill of Dust. And I look forward to see how it will progress, have bought 3 merc packages and will buy more if CCP manages to continue its development of the game.
Hopefully 24 player teams will be added as well. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:25:00 -
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I would think: maybe - some laser rifle changes to the sight maybe - LAV "changes" Memory leak fix fix to vehicle recall Drop uplink visible on radar fix maybe - Timestamp in chat
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1324
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:27:00 -
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martinofski wrote:I would think: maybe - some laser rifle changes to the sight maybe - LAV "changes" Memory leak fix fix to vehicle recall Drop uplink visible on radar fix maybe - Timestamp in chat
Maybe a Mass Driver fix too so they can realize in another 3 months that they should have rolled back the nerf 6 months ago.
GDI, this game is messed up... |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
169
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:40:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm just anxious for 1.2. I would really like to get my hands on those new armor modules because at last armor tanking will be viable. There is more in 1.2 than just those mods that some players are going to like very much.
Missing dropsuit variants? |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:martinofski wrote:I would think: maybe - some laser rifle changes to the sight maybe - LAV "changes" Memory leak fix fix to vehicle recall Drop uplink visible on radar fix maybe - Timestamp in chat
Maybe a Mass Driver fix too so they can realize in another 3 months that they should have rolled back the nerf 6 months ago. GDI, this game is messed up...
Yeah, I though it was included in the hit detection fix from Acturus, didn't mind posting it again. |
Raj Bhagwandas
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:59:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Dust Team is multi faceted what one team does the other team is not an expert on. So those responsible for physics controls and balance are not responsible for orchestrating the server being able to orchestrate an orbital artillery strike to smack a pesky destroyer out of the sky, is not responsible for allowing players to trade with each other, is not responsible on how the new suits look like.
There are teams and members constantly trying to keep the technical debt low but right now Dust 514 is missing a bit of everything from new player experience, to having enough types of guns, to have enough maps, to having enough game modes, to having enough reason to fight on maps. These are all missing and it does require many of the features on the roadmap.
Core will continue to be refined, making a good FPS at the core with all colors, models, and sounds removed is still something most people cannot do overnight and takes too much trial and error and some games which had gotten it right seem to have lost their way such as ID software. So basically what you're saying is that the Beta tag should have never come off the game? Now that it's "officially released", people have some high expectations, and rightfully so. Why wasn't 5/14/2014 an acceptable release date? Another year could only help polish the game.
Exactly. Which is my main point. But I guess I have to just deal with it and let them do their thing (=
Peace.
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
708
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Posted - 2013.06.13 12:36:00 -
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lordjanuz wrote:Saber you are way to Nice with CCP after 5 year in progress some roadmap should be possible to give us.
He has to be nice now, his objectivity has been compromised. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1342
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:41:00 -
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just check the road map! |
FatalFlaw V1
ISK Faucet Industries
92
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Dust Team is multi faceted what one team does the other team is not an expert on. So those responsible for physics controls and balance are not responsible for orchestrating the server being able to orchestrate an orbital artillery strike to smack a pesky destroyer out of the sky, is not responsible for allowing players to trade with each other, is not responsible on how the new suits look like.
There are teams and members constantly trying to keep the technical debt low but right now Dust 514 is missing a bit of everything from new player experience, to having enough types of guns, to have enough maps, to having enough game modes, to having enough reason to fight on maps. These are all missing and it does require many of the features on the roadmap.
Core will continue to be refined, making a good FPS at the core with all colors, models, and sounds removed is still something most people cannot do overnight and takes too much trial and error and some games which had gotten it right seem to have lost their way such as ID software.
Please direct me to the team that is responsible for implementing the player respecs they promised "Soon" which has become "SoonGäó"...I have a threadnaught to bring to their attention. |
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