DUST Search - Optional Quarterly SP Respec

DUST Fiend wrote:

Making respec's AUR only will only put us in a P2W scenario, and we're already walking a pretty fine line with that as is. Making it available for ISK is too easy to abuse.

Not allowing respec's only punishes new players and older players who aren't hyper aware of spreadsheets and skill planning or who don't know how weapons / suits / equipment that they've never used will ultimately perform.

Unlike in EVE, there is nothing else for you to do. You either run your build, or you run militia. Period. Don't give me any of your meta crap, we're just talking about raw game mechanics here.

Combine that with CCPs maddening habit of drastically altering playstyles on a whim, and I have issues seeing why we shouldn't be given anywhere between 1-4 optional respecs per year. It's fair for everyone. If someone made a horrible build their first time, then they will likely do it again, unless they actually seek help and make the best of their optional respec.

DUST Fiend wrote:

jenza aranda wrote:

MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:

jenza aranda wrote:

sorry but no, its just not going to happen.

Even though I do not understand, I appreciate the response.

Thank you.

The idea of this game is that your decisions and your actions have consequences. When you decide to do one thing, it could stop you from doing another. By spending skill points on one thing, it will take you a while to skill save up the points to skill into something else.

By adding the ability to change your mind, you are just trivialising what should be a very important choice. By making it a pay option, it just becomes a pay to win option where you can just pay X Aurum to spec into the flavour of the month. Things change in terms of ballence quite often, by skilling into what is considered the most powerful option, you should accept the risk that it may change instead of paying for the option of getting something new.

This is why CCP will not allow people to respec any time they want, thats why im majorly against anything like this.

Except that your actions DON'T have consequences, other than possibly RUINING any fun you can have with this game because you aren't a 1337 spreadsheet master and you screw up your build a little.

As much as you might want to believe that this game has any ties to EVE, they're minor and trivial at best. I used to be against respec's, but at least in EVE if you screw up your SP a bit, you still have a TON to do.

You know what you do in DUST if you screw up your SP?

You get bored, die, or both.

Great for the game, I know. I'm so happy that this is open for discussion and that we're hashing out ways to help new and old players alike properly spend their SP, or give them options to revert bad decisions made through a painful lack of information or guidance.


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hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12	Posted - 2013.06.09 19:35:00 - [1] - Quote i laugh at all the fools that say this is New Eden, when ccp makes a op weapon or nerfs one i don"t here that @#$%. CCP next time people submits a help ticket, respond Welcome to New Eden that is all.
hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12	Posted - 2013.06.09 19:41:00 - [2] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Making respec's AUR only will only put us in a P2W scenario, and we're already walking a pretty fine line with that as is. Making it available for ISK is too easy to abuse. Not allowing respec's only punishes new players and older players who aren't hyper aware of spreadsheets and skill planning or who don't know how weapons / suits / equipment that they've never used will ultimately perform. Unlike in EVE, there is nothing else for you to do. You either run your build, or you run militia. Period. Don't give me any of your meta crap, we're just talking about raw game mechanics here. Combine that with CCPs maddening habit of drastically altering playstyles on a whim, and I have issues seeing why we shouldn't be given anywhere between 1-4 optional respecs per year. It's fair for everyone. If someone made a horrible build their first time, then they will likely do it again, unless they actually seek help and make the best of their optional respec. DUST Fiend wrote: jenza aranda wrote: MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: sorry but no, its just not going to happen. Even though I do not understand, I appreciate the response. Thank you. The idea of this game is that your decisions and your actions have consequences. When you decide to do one thing, it could stop you from doing another. By spending skill points on one thing, it will take you a while to skill save up the points to skill into something else. By adding the ability to change your mind, you are just trivialising what should be a very important choice. By making it a pay option, it just becomes a pay to win option where you can just pay X Aurum to spec into the flavour of the month. Things change in terms of ballence quite often, by skilling into what is considered the most powerful option, you should accept the risk that it may change instead of paying for the option of getting something new. This is why CCP will not allow people to respec any time they want, thats why im majorly against anything like this. Except that your actions DON'T have consequences, other than possibly RUINING any fun you can have with this game because you aren't a 1337 spreadsheet master and you screw up your build a little. As much as you might want to believe that this game has any ties to EVE, they're minor and trivial at best. I used to be against respec's, but at least in EVE if you screw up your SP a bit, you still have a TON to do. You know what you do in DUST if you screw up your SP? You get bored, die, or both. Great for the game, I know. I'm so happy that this is open for discussion and that we're hashing out ways to help new and old players alike properly spend their SP, or give them options to revert bad decisions made through a painful lack of information or guidance. You have my vote dust, there is plenty of reasons to have a respect optional once or twice a year at least. Stats alone being changed on daily downtime justifies a respect alone.