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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2013.06.09 11:08:00 -
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i have a few ideas for PC just need to time to hit up into a post and get someone to spell check it :P.
i strongly belive that it should shift to either 24/7 system. or PC is done the same way player owned stations are. you spend a LONG time building up what you need to own it. You get it with some awesome bonuses it, downside it can be attacked at any time with once chance to defend it following a raid. This way you have downtime and everybody gets to take part as if your not in during a raid other members of the corp can fill in.
right now noone wants to take part in PC beucase its the A-team club, NO corp is going to field bad players by choice and no players want to spend 1 hour squaring off on the imperfects because they Know they will lose. i am still shocked PC was not tested in any shape or form this could have pointed out at the early stages and fixed |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 12:49:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:Well you're right but the forum drama is fun to read. . Almost more fun to read Dust from then trollfield. And just as quickly we are all starting to agree the forum war is more fun than the actual war. Its sad to hear and realize in game that so many great corps are loosing players/interest after realizing the limitations of dust514 16 v 16 mechanics. How can we fix this? Bring back the old skirmish Staged style of map. Yes. A conquest sort of match. Win district Alpha move on to district Beta. Same time mechanic we have 15 minutes to secure the Alpha district . We win it you have 10 min. To bring in alliance ringers or substitute tankers/ AV or slayers. District Bravo is under attack 15 min again / now attacking team wins again they can bring in the MCC. And a beach head on the planet can be established. If the attacker looses (blah blah some sorta something) Based on the planet size there should only be a few beach head opportunities giving advantage to the defenders like any other war. Gotta bring it. All can be sorted out.
This, different game modes across a planet would be awesome. For example, you send in a A-list team to secure a beach head, ala ambush, once the beachhead is formed the next matches switch to domination to show the attacking setting up defenses. and at the last point we use skrimish 2.0 to show full scale attack in progress.
it would still be better to have old skrimish back and allow progressive maps that required squad changes, im holding out to see how the old Skrim works out if it does come back at all |
steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:18:00 -
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SoTa while i agree with you to a point, not everybody wants to a second job, or has a natural talent to be awesome at shooters, i dont mind their being leage play for the top teams who get a kick out of being the best, but in a Video game NOONE should every be shut out of content beucase their not good enough.
all that does is create a negative feedback loop where, newbs cant get in and the eltie just drop out one by one, till its only the best team left. this IS what happend in global agenda and it IS!! whats happening here.
no point you bagging on everybody to get better, we dont want to so your not going to get the games you want thats life. nobody will log onto a game to get thier asses kicked. so their needs to be a way for everyone to take part with out getting face rolled or IMPS we just win dust at the game will die.
because every other corp in this game cant get their **** together
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put a very sort way.
Even if a SUCK BALLS at EvE their is a job for me that i can do.
if i suck balls in Dust, might as well not play. <-- their is the problem |
steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:59:00 -
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possable idea. 24/7 battle on a planet, corps can clame certain bases as thier own for what reasion but everybody can join these battles until the planet is won for a side.
for exampe goons want a planet in this area, so they post up a "bond" for 100 million, defends in response post a bond of 200 million, the game then produces contracts for both sides until the funds dry up goons can then hire out decaded dust corps for these battles to make sure they win, but everybody else can still get stuck in |
steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:05:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:SoTa while i agree with you to a point, not everybody wants to a second job, or has a natural talent to be awesome at shooters, i dont mind their being leage play for the top teams who get a kick out of being the best, but in a Video game NOONE should every be shut out of content beucase their not good enough.
all that does is create a negative feedback loop where, newbs cant get in and the eltie just drop out one by one, till its only the best team left. this IS what happend in global agenda and it IS!! whats happening here.
no point you bagging on everybody to get better, we dont want to so your not going to get the games you want thats life. nobody will log onto a game to get thier asses kicked. so their needs to be a way for everyone to take part with out getting face rolled or IMPS we just win dust at the game will die.
because every other corp in this game cant get their **** together
edit:
put a very sort way.
Even if a SUCK BALLS at EvE their is a job for me that i can do.
if i suck balls in Dust, might as well not play. <-- their is the problem I'm glad you said this because I've been wanting to say something for a while IF YOU DO NOT PUT TIME AND DEDICATION INTO THIS GAME YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET ANYWHERE TO BEGIN WITH. Do you really expect in any FPS game that the average joe has a chance against guy who put up time and energy to be the best? That's what you guys are facing. League of Infamy, Negative Feedback, EoN, all put time and energy into being the best and are now THE best. The guy who has work has it rough - no doubt and it's not fair - but what part of this game is fair? Plenty of NF guys have work and are still considered the best so it's not an all that viable excuse. EVE would never hire a losing team so this outcome of "Do or gtfo" has been expected from the beginning. Not saying I don't feel for those who can't put time and energy into this - just that this is something they should of seen coming. And new guys will eventually catch up - but it's quiet a grind. I think this is fail personally, but it is what it is. This game was always - in my eyes - intended to be a cruel universe where the strong survive. So htfu or gtfo. :D
thier is nothing wrong with that mindset but it does not work in a MMO where need everyone needs to take part you cant have an open game modes where its just the 3 best units kicking everyone elses ass, you can say harden the **** up or GTFO. but thats frankly a ******* retarted saying beucase everyone was will just get the **** out and you have a dead game.
is that want you want only a game where the elite can play and everyone else can just **** off?? (thats sounds harser than intended but thats all im getting for the 1% here. this does not lead to fun game play where not here for your entertainment. this is a game where it is fun for everyone.
my point is in EvE i can do somthing else and still be taking part, in dust their is no other option, so everyone just quits and you have a dead game mode |
steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:38:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:SoTa while i agree with you to a point, not everybody wants to a second job, or has a natural talent to be awesome at shooters, i dont mind their being leage play for the top teams who get a kick out of being the best, but in a Video game NOONE should every be shut out of content beucase their not good enough.
all that does is create a negative feedback loop where, newbs cant get in and the eltie just drop out one by one, till its only the best team left. this IS what happend in global agenda and it IS!! whats happening here.
no point you bagging on everybody to get better, we dont want to so your not going to get the games you want thats life. nobody will log onto a game to get thier asses kicked. so their needs to be a way for everyone to take part with out getting face rolled or IMPS we just win dust at the game will die.
because every other corp in this game cant get their **** together
edit:
put a very sort way.
Even if a SUCK BALLS at EvE their is a job for me that i can do.
if i suck balls in Dust, might as well not play. <-- their is the problem I'm glad you said this because I've been wanting to say something for a while IF YOU DO NOT PUT TIME AND DEDICATION INTO THIS GAME YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET ANYWHERE TO BEGIN WITH. Do you really expect in any FPS game that the average joe has a chance against guy who put up time and energy to be the best? That's what you guys are facing. League of Infamy, Negative Feedback, EoN, all put time and energy into being the best and are now THE best. The guy who has work has it rough - no doubt and it's not fair - but what part of this game is fair? Plenty of NF guys have work and are still considered the best so it's not an all that viable excuse. EVE would never hire a losing team so this outcome of "Do or gtfo" has been expected from the beginning. Not saying I don't feel for those who can't put time and energy into this - just that this is something they should of seen coming. And new guys will eventually catch up - but it's quiet a grind. I think this is fail personally, but it is what it is. This game was always - in my eyes - intended to be a cruel universe where the strong survive. So htfu or gtfo. :D thier is nothing wrong with that mindset but it does not work in a MMO where need everyone needs to take part you cant have an open game modes where its just the 3 best units kicking everyone elses ass, you can say harden the **** up or GTFO. but thats frankly a ******* retarted saying beucase everyone was will just get the **** out and you have a dead game. is that want you want only a game where the elite can play and everyone else can just **** off?? (thats sounds harser than intended but thats all im getting for the 1% here. this does not lead to fun game play where not here for your entertainment. this is a game where it is fun for everyone. my point is in EvE i can do somthing else and still be taking part, in dust their is no other option, so everyone just quits and you have a dead game mode Sounds like you want PvE. PC was always intended for the elite and dedicated and not the casual. Eventually the casual can try PC but likely will get stomped. There is NOTHING CCP can do to change that. All they can do is pacify complaints by giving other options for people to play as the elites play the core of this game. Even with more districts opened up you're just going to see the small guy get picked on everywhere. It's an unavoidable fate and part of the FPS genre. And then in return the even bigger groups will pick on them, and then bigger groups on them, and so forth and so on. Once EVE can send us contracts it's going to get even worse as elites dominate.
A PVE option i think would do dust a world of good, as then i would have somthing else to do and casuals can go to that intested of getting facerolled :). i agree a big problem of FPSs is that the bully in the sandbox will always find you no matter how big you make it. and is somthing that we keep hearing about but never seeing
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