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![Michael Cratar Michael Cratar](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:25:00 -
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Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle.
INSTA FIXED![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) |
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Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:43:00 -
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As far as I can tell, AR is balanced now.
On to fixing Mass Drivers... |
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:45:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:As far as I can tell, AR is balanced now.
On to fixing Mass Drivers...
Then give assault scrambler rifles the same recoil as an AR so they can compete. |
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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:46:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately. |
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:48:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately.
That dose not matter as you can kill someone easially before that "harsh" recoil kicks in.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:52:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately. Try firing in bursts, it works very good. |
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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
392
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:55:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately. Try firing in bursts, it works very good. Try firing the assault scrambler rifle without bursts. It works very well -_- |
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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
392
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:56:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately. That dose not matter as you can kill someone easially before that "harsh" recoil kicks in. Yes, yes it does. Unless you burst it kicks in very fast. And unless the enemy is an idiot and is either standing still or strafing in one direction, a good chunk of bullets don't actually hit the person. |
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
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Posted - 2013.06.09 07:01:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately. That dose not matter as you can kill someone easially before that "harsh" recoil kicks in. Yes, yes it does. Unless you burst it kicks in very fast. And unless the enemy is an idiot and is either standing still or strafing in one direction, a good chunk of bullets don't actually hit the person.
Sharpshooter helps.
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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 07:16:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately. That dose not matter as you can kill someone easially before that "harsh" recoil kicks in. Yes, yes it does. Unless you burst it kicks in very fast. And unless the enemy is an idiot and is either standing still or strafing in one direction, a good chunk of bullets don't actually hit the person. Sharpshooter helps. It does. But even though I got it maxed out I got maybe extra 4 bullets before the recoil becomes crazy and I have to stop firing. |
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:01:00 -
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A lot, I'll even go a little further and say most, of the weapon imbalances stem from map design. Most of the maps are wide open areas with a crate to break up LOS, that's it! There are very few cqc maps so the old range nerfs just killed all weapon balance.
So everyone chooses the weapons with long range and good dmg over anything else, especially if it is easy to use and is not a complete dud up close.
It's not just the weapon...it's lazy map design! |
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Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:41:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Most of the maps are wide open areas with a crate to break up LOS, that's it! There are very few cqc maps so the old range nerfs just killed all weapon balance.
I think is CCP attempting to balance map design between footsoldiers and vehicles, as well. Vehicles would essentially be useless on a pure CQC map.
That said, I think there's a fair amount of CQC to be had on most of the Skirmish maps. I do pretty damn well in any of the cities or large installations, and a Battle Segway can get me from built-up area A to built-up area B just fine.
It's the maps with clear line-of-sight right to the Null Cannon hacking terminals where I get spanked... |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:54:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:Give it the same recoil as the assault scrambler rifle. INSTA FIXED ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) You fail. AR has a harsher recoil over time and can get crazy after a while. And before you say anything, this kicks in pretty quickly. With the assault scrambler rifle I can shoot all day long accurately. Yeah, I can easily empty my magazine into a guy at medium range without even a pause. Assault Scrambler recoil is fine. |
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