DUST Search - Would you welcome a subscription fee?

Ludvig Enraga wrote:

Shion Typhon wrote:

People won't even pay subscription fees for top of the line AAA MMOs these days, even EVE is in a minority clique in this day and age.

Heck I don't even think I'd pay a subscription for TF2 which is like, the best FPS ever made, let alone Dust.

For me to pay subscription for Dust it would need to be MMO+FPS Jesus fully linked into my EVE account with massive persistent battles and .... and ... well the rest. Basically it would have to be an FPS I would play over all others in the market ... +10

Ok but I just can't grasp why everyone hates subscription so much. Just about everyone who poasted in my thread said: NNNNOOO!

A reasonable fee subscription is 5 bucks a month. that's 60 a year. How many titles a year do you or anyone in this thread buys per year? 3-4 is the average right? How long do you play any one of those games? 1-2 months tops. So why does subscription seem so terrible - if you don't like the game you just quit paying after the first month ( you wasted only 5 bucks); if you do - you keep rewarding the developer and they will keep cranking out good content for you.?


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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2623	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:52:00 - [1] - Quote Then CCP will have to retract all of its statements about how Dust is free to play during the past year of its development and then look like a company that has no clue what to even call their own game. On top of that, here are primary sources of income for CCP Games: 1. Eve Online Subscriptions (500,000+ and counting) 2. PLEX purchases (a huge ton of them thanks to New Eden economics) 3. AUR token purchases Then there are the secondary sources of income: 1. Mercenary packs (lots of them). The mere fact that CCP did away with the UVTs is a clear indication they are doing just fine money wise because the voice service is handled by a third party which cost money for the company. This is the same third party handling the Eve Voice service as well. Then there is the fact that Dust will always be updated. You're right to assume that the game looks like crap right now, but that's what people said about Eve Online back in 2003.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2623	Posted - 2013.06.08 23:56:00 - [2] - Quote Karazantor wrote: +1 Definitely the game should be sub based, unfortunately I suspect that horse has long bolted? The constant 'in your face' advertising of Aur is insulting and it is definitely borderline 'play to win'. It definitely reduces the perceived professionalism of the whole game, no doubt about that. It could easily be some cheap web browser based app on a phone. Having said that, I have purchased my share of Merc Packs for my 2 accounts. be interested to see what sort of revenue its bringing in via this means. I can't help but suspect that the devs might be thinking a stable revenue source (subs) might be easier to help them sleep at night. Read my post above yours. CCP is doing just fine money wise.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2623	Posted - 2013.06.09 00:02:00 - [3] - Quote PLEX in Eve Online bring in a sizable amount of money for CCP because of the flexibility it offers to players in terms of subscription payments. Every time I go online and open the market in Eve, I check the different regions of New Eden and see countless sell orders posted averaging about 500 million ISK a piece depending on market forces and each PLEX costed the seller about $15 a piece. It makes me wonder how much money CCP is really making out of all this. The fact that they were able to afford a Symphony Orchestra during the 2013 Fanfest is very telling. Hell, you can even donate to charity through PLEX for (insert cause) as well as purchase Fanfest Tickets with them.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2625	Posted - 2013.06.09 02:27:00 - [4] - Quote Throwing more money doesn't create quality games. Creative developers create quality games.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2627	Posted - 2013.06.09 07:40:00 - [5] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Shion Typhon wrote: People won't even pay subscription fees for top of the line AAA MMOs these days, even EVE is in a minority clique in this day and age. Heck I don't even think I'd pay a subscription for TF2 which is like, the best FPS ever made, let alone Dust. For me to pay subscription for Dust it would need to be MMO+FPS Jesus fully linked into my EVE account with massive persistent battles and .... and ... well the rest. Basically it would have to be an FPS I would play over all others in the market ... +10 Ok but I just can't grasp why everyone hates subscription so much. Just about everyone who poasted in my thread said: NNNNOOO! A reasonable fee subscription is 5 bucks a month. that's 60 a year. How many titles a year do you or anyone in this thread buys per year? 3-4 is the average right? How long do you play any one of those games? 1-2 months tops. So why does subscription seem so terrible - if you don't like the game you just quit paying after the first month ( you wasted only 5 bucks); if you do - you keep rewarding the developer and they will keep cranking out good content for you.? Kind of makes you wonder how Eve has ever remained so competitive these days. It's just one of those things about nature you have to accept. No if, ands or buts.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2633	Posted - 2013.06.09 16:55:00 - [6] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86026&find=unread Hey Ludvig, I created a separate thread linked above and I want your feedback on this alternative idea.