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Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.06.08 23:48:00 -
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No, as it stands now this game is nowhere near good enough to warrant a subscription fee |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.08 23:57:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Delta 749 wrote:No, as it stands now this game is nowhere near good enough to warrant a subscription fee I agree but I think it's a circular argument. A f2p game will never offer enough quality to warrant subscription quality. But if CCP did make the effort / make investment to make subscription-worthy content, would you pay a fee to play it?
Still no I dont mind microtransactions or one time fees and pay those if I think what they offer is worth it but something needs to stand head and shoulders above its competition or offer a massive amount of content for me to consider paying a subscription fee |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:13:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Delta 749 wrote:No, as it stands now this game is nowhere near good enough to warrant a subscription fee I agree but I think it's a circular argument. A f2p game will never offer enough quality to warrant subscription quality. But if CCP did make the effort / make investment to make subscription-worthy content, would you pay a fee to play it? Still no I dont mind microtransactions or one time fees and pay those if I think what they offer is worth it but something needs to stand head and shoulders above its competition or offer a massive amount of content for me to consider paying a subscription fee Yeah, thats exactly what I am saying: WoW type of content. CCP could make it happen because they have the universe already and a following to launch an MMO game with massive content. I don't really see a middle ground: their mictrotransaction micro-MMO is failing. I for one will not play this game much longer as it's just not fun to play - free or not.
Well something else to consider is the amount of negative press shutting down the current version and relaunching with a subscription based model would generate What marketing they have done is heavily pimping this as free to play and a shift over would alienate those that are still kicking around only because its free to play and I imagine they would be left with a few hundred EVE players as the only ones remaining lowering potential profits especially if they manage to pay for their subscriptions purchasing time from other players in game, I know some people already do that EVE side |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:15:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:i would quit if they made it a subscription based game. it is not good enough and many others would leave making the money they get off dust even less. But would you still quit it if they made it 'good enough'? That's exactly the core of my qustion. In order for this game to be good enough, it can not be f2p. f2p is just not a viable model for games that aim at being great. Hell, even at being good.
I would argue against that, there are many games out there across several genres that are entirely free to play and extremely high quality and feature complete |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.06.09 01:06:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:i would quit if they made it a subscription based game. it is not good enough and many others would leave making the money they get off dust even less. But would you still quit it if they made it 'good enough'? That's exactly the core of my qustion. In order for this game to be good enough, it can not be f2p. f2p is just not a viable model for games that aim at being great. Hell, even at being good. I would argue against that, there are many games out there across several genres that are entirely free to play and extremely high quality and feature complete Which ones would you offer as an example?
Street Fighter X Mega Man Bunny Must Die Katawa Shoujo Spelunky Mechwarrior Online Cave Story Net Hack Dwarf Fortress Slender I Wanna Be The Guy
I could go on, the freeware market is full of excellent games |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.06.09 01:52:00 -
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I always screw up altering the quotes so Ill just snip them
Bunny Must Die, Metroidvania with multiple characters with differing routes and playstyles Spelunky, roguelike platformer and every game has a different layout Cave Story, metroidvania with multiple endings Mechwarrior Online, just go look it up Net Hack, roguelike and I cant begin to tell you how massive and extensive it is Dwarf Fortress, seriously go look it up and the crazy things you can do in this game
The others on the list are VNs, fairly short platformers, and fairly short horror games
Seriously man look into the freeware market, so many polished games made by teams that consist of one or a handful of people working on no budget with development times that match Dusts |
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