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        |  Charlotte O'Dell
 Molon Labe.
 League of Infamy
 
 412
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:29:00 -
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 Why did you spec into tanks after seeing all of the previous generation of tankers tell you how broken they were?
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 224
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:31:00 -
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 So I can blow them up.
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        |  Vethosis
 Purgatorium of the Damned
 League of Infamy
 
 236
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:31:00 -
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 because
 
 GÇó they're big
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        |  JW v Weingarten
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 450
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:32:00 -
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 Last time i checked my tank is not that broken. could use a buff here and there but its all fine
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        |  Vethosis
 Purgatorium of the Damned
 League of Infamy
 
 236
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:33:00 -
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 tanks aren't useful jw
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Frontlinez
 Omega Commission
 
 171
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:39:00 -
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 is it wrongfully to dream about being a ****** tank, the romance of driving a tank is bottomless.
 
 
 i hate being kill by tank.
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        |  Void Echo
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 159
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:40:00 -
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 Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Why did you spec into tanks after seeing all of the previous generation of tankers tell you how broken they were? 
 
 only a hand full of us remains
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        |  Xocoyol Zaraoul
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 305
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 22:58:00 -
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 I've beta tested since the start, and I started a new HAV pilot just a few weeks ago which is making money and topping warpoints with HAVs just like my old character in the "golden age" of HAVs.
 
 Problem is while they might need a few buffs, they are largely precision tools that too many people use (and thus lose) as hammers.
 
 Few things are wrong with HAVs, they can be incredibly dangerous and change the tide if used correctly, they just can't really be used as, well, like a tank... But they are very useful and I have no regrets.
 
 Drive smart.
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        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Bojo's School of the Trades
 
 1482
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:04:00 -
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 The old tanks were OP as hell, and the old tankers were used to that.
 
 I'm still seeing some HAVs lasting the entire battle by actual skill rather than playing the redline.
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        |  ladwar
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 596
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:07:00 -
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 must of been no AV there.
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        |  Cy Clone1
 Ill Omens
 EoN.
 
 15
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:16:00 -
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 Now that I've stopped using shield boosters its a lot easier. More pg means I can do more damage and fit more shields.
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        |  Eurydice Itzhak
 Militaires Sans Jeux
 
 60
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:20:00 -
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 Cy Clone1 wrote:Now that I've stopped using shield boosters its a lot easier. More pg means I can do more damage and fit more shields.  
 
 You've traded a booster for another heavy shield? But... why? You're a mad man.
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        |  BobThe843CakeMan
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 406
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:24:00 -
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 Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The old tanks were OP as hell, and the old tankers were used to that.
 I'm still seeing some HAVs lasting the entire battle by actual skill rather than playing the redline.
 so have i. u know when theres no enemy AV. any AV at all then they die.
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        |  Void Echo
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 162
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:33:00 -
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 during our "Golden HAV Age" we couldn't be stopped by anything, even the militia tanks were feared, now the militia tanks are complete trash and the standard tanks barely stand a chance against standard AV. its truly become complete skill in driving to pilot an HAV and survive the match, but honestly if your going up against our Vets from closed beta, your going to die hands down unless you have an entire squad of AV ready to attack him if he shows his cannon.
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        |  Anmol Singh
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 123
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:46:00 -
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 JW v Weingarten wrote:Last time i checked my tank is not that broken. could use a buff here and there but its all fine 
 most likely a railgun tank i suppose? armor too
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        |  Rogatien Merc
 Ill Omens
 EoN.
 
 62
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:54:00 -
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 Because we think it's going to be a pre-req for Mechs...
 
 ... would be my reason if I had.
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        |  JW v Weingarten
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 451
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.08 23:56:00 -
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 Anmol Singh wrote:JW v Weingarten wrote:Last time i checked my tank is not that broken. could use a buff here and there but its all fine most likely a railgun tank i suppose? armor too yes and that is why i also say tanks could use a buff here and there. especially shield tanks. I have always been a shield tankers but since the new build shields tanks went to **** and it is all about armor railgun tanks now. blasters and missiles tanks are nowhere to be seen in PC matches because people rock advanced/proto av and you die before you can even fire once.
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        |  Cy Clone1
 Ill Omens
 EoN.
 
 15
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:02:00 -
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 Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:Now that I've stopped using shield boosters its a lot easier. More pg means I can do more damage and fit more shields.  You've traded a booster for another heavy shield? But... why? You're a mad man. 
 I thought so too, but I die much less now. I can have two damage mods and heatsink, and maybe throw in recharger.
 2 passive resist
 1 heavy extender
 heatsink
 passive recharge
 
 Low: damage mods
 With a proto rail gun of coarse.
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        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Bojo's School of the Trades
 
 1486
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:02:00 -
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 BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The old tanks were OP as hell, and the old tankers were used to that.
 I'm still seeing some HAVs lasting the entire battle by actual skill rather than playing the redline.
 so have i. u know when theres no enemy AV. any AV at all then they die.  I've seen several HAVs today survive with AV after them. They barely survived a few run-ins, but they still survived. But the AV was usually only the joint effort of an AV grenadier and either a swarm launcher or a forge gun.
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        |  BobThe843CakeMan
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 406
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:05:00 -
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 Scheneighnay McBob wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The old tanks were OP as hell, and the old tankers were used to that.
 I'm still seeing some HAVs lasting the entire battle by actual skill rather than playing the redline.
 so have i. u know when theres no enemy AV. any AV at all then they die.  I've seen several HAVs today survive with AV after them. They barely survived a few run-ins, but they still survived. But the AV was usually only the joint effort of an AV grenadier and either a swarm launcher or a forge gun. congrats to them. but if my LLAV has more overall EHP from resist and higher speed and stronger weapon tht OHKs everyone there is no point of HAVs. Cause they r Weak.
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        |  True Adamance
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 101
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:09:00 -
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 Last time I checked Tanks can still dish out the hurt but from a supportive role.
 
 Played a match last night were a Madrugar pilot went 32/1 and was tanking AV fire throughout the match (anecdotal evidence sucks I know).
 
 To be fair Im a pretty skilled AV trooper on my 7m SP alt but even I cant go head to head with tanks solo. Don't understand what you are complaining about O'dell since tanks still are a terror on the battlefield.
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        |  Cy Clone1
 Ill Omens
 EoN.
 
 15
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:15:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Last time I checked Tanks can still dish out the hurt but from a supportive role.
 Played a match last night were a Madrugar pilot went 32/1 and was tanking AV fire throughout the match (anecdotal evidence sucks I know).
 
 To be fair Im a pretty skilled AV trooper on my 7m SP alt but even I cant go head to head with tanks solo. Don't understand what you are complaining about O'dell since tanks still are a terror on the battlefield.
 
 I don't want tanks to be changed, because when ccp brings in more advanced levels of tanks everything's going to be aok. And by that I mean ill have another 79-1 game with my sagaris, be warned.
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        |  shaman oga
 Nexus Balusa Horizon
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 164
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:24:00 -
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 The real problem now is the active modules wheel, 1 time on 4 my repairer doesn't work and at least 1 time every game it pass from online to cool down without activating his power.
 Tank vs Tank is better than before.
 Infantry still have powerful weapons compared to our defenses.
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        |  Cy Clone1
 Ill Omens
 EoN.
 
 15
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:34:00 -
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 shaman oga wrote:The real problem now is the active modules wheel, 1 time on 4 my repairer doesn't work and at least 1 time every game it pass from online to cool down without activating his power. Tank vs Tank is better than before.
 Infantry still have powerful weapons compared to our defenses.
 Activation of modules is not a problem worth mentioning, just don't freak out when you get hit and only activate them once.
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        |  Charlotte O'Dell
 Molon Labe.
 League of Infamy
 
 412
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:50:00 -
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 I wonder if CCP intends to give us proto and adv HAVS...then we'd be fine but until then we're trying to use std defenses against proto AV.
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        |  lllIIIlI IIIlIl
 Holdfast Syndicate
 Amarr Empire
 
 66
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:54:00 -
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 Why wouldn't you spec into tanks? As you say, they're broken as ****. Kill people in 1 shot and never die.
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        |  Cy Clone1
 Ill Omens
 EoN.
 
 15
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:58:00 -
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 Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I wonder if CCP intends to give us proto and adv HAVS...then we'd be fine but until then we're trying to use std defenses against proto AV. Yeah it sucks. Tanks are the really ugly kid teachers put in the back of school photos.
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        |  Charlotte O'Dell
 Molon Labe.
 League of Infamy
 
 412
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:58:00 -
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 lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Why wouldn't you spec into tanks? As you say, they're broken as ****. Kill people in 1 shot and never die. 
 Hit me up tonight. I'll let you drive a 1.5 mil isk tank and if you don't die you get to be right. Oh, and it'll be a Maddy with a blaster, too. Good luck getting more than 5 kills. Seriously. Hmu. I'll give you my tank. I'll give you three.
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        |  undeadsoldier90
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 519
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 00:59:00 -
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 I love my tank. I held the bridge on that dom map from some imps with just my tank and 2 inf guys. That was a good game, we all have bad ones though and it hurts us more because of the isk .
 
 What I have been doing is spider webbing with maple, I run my char with 2 light aezotrpic shield boosters cycling them. When one finishes I activate the other rinse and repeat. And since my char can tank some serious AV I am able to keep maple in the fight longer.
 
 Just have to have a tanking buddy. Running in two's is much more fun and spreads the av.
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        |  undeadsoldier90
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 519
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 01:00:00 -
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 Charlotte O'Dell wrote:lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Why wouldn't you spec into tanks? As you say, they're broken as ****. Kill people in 1 shot and never die. Hit me up tonight. I'll let you drive a 1.5 mil isk tank and if you don't die you get to be right. Oh, and it'll be a Maddy with a blaster, too. Good luck getting more than 5 kills. Seriously. Hmu. I'll give you my tank. I'll give you three. 
 Can I has one too?
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        |  lllIIIlI IIIlIl
 Holdfast Syndicate
 Amarr Empire
 
 66
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 01:05:00 -
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 Charlotte O'Dell wrote:lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Why wouldn't you spec into tanks? As you say, they're broken as ****. Kill people in 1 shot and never die. Hit me up tonight. I'll let you drive a 1.5 mil isk tank and if you don't die you get to be right. Oh, and it'll be a Maddy with a blaster, too. Good luck getting more than 5 kills. Seriously. Hmu. I'll give you my tank. I'll give you three. Remind me Monday night around 8pm PST. I'm busy until then.
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        |  Charlotte O'Dell
 Molon Labe.
 League of Infamy
 
 412
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 01:06:00 -
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 undeadsoldier90 wrote:I love my tank. I held the bridge on that dom map from some imps with just my tank and 2 inf guys. That was a good game, we all have bad ones though and it hurts us more because of the isk .
 What I have been doing is spider webbing with maple, I run my char with 2 light aezotrpic shield boosters cycling them. When one finishes I activate the other rinse and repeat. And since my char can tank some serious AV I am able to keep maple in the fight longer.
 
 Just have to have a tanking buddy. Running in two's is much more fun and spreads the av.
 
 You're missing the point: we don't have proto have or even advances HAVs to could defend from proto AV. This is the big problem. Giving is back that 25% PG would help too.
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        |  undeadsoldier90
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 519
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 01:11:00 -
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 Oh I completely agree with you I want my pg and adv/proto hav but all is not lost yet.... ccp might fix it.
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        |  CYRAX SERVIUS
 The Generals
 EoN.
 
 86
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 01:13:00 -
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 Cy Clone1 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Last time I checked Tanks can still dish out the hurt but from a supportive role.
 Played a match last night were a Madrugar pilot went 32/1 and was tanking AV fire throughout the match (anecdotal evidence sucks I know).
 
 To be fair Im a pretty skilled AV trooper on my 7m SP alt but even I cant go head to head with tanks solo. Don't understand what you are complaining about O'dell since tanks still are a terror on the battlefield.
 I don't want tanks to be changed, because when ccp brings in more advanced levels of tanks everything's going to be aok. And by that I mean ill have another 79-1 game with my sagaris, be warned. I hear you bro, my alt is waiting for them to un break tanks.
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        |  Superluminal Replicant
 Planetary Response Organization
 
 79
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 01:37:00 -
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 Keep spawning tanks, I really don't mind... seriously.
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        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Bojo's School of the Trades
 
 1488
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 01:42:00 -
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 BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The old tanks were OP as hell, and the old tankers were used to that.
 I'm still seeing some HAVs lasting the entire battle by actual skill rather than playing the redline.
 so have i. u know when theres no enemy AV. any AV at all then they die.  I've seen several HAVs today survive with AV after them. They barely survived a few run-ins, but they still survived. But the AV was usually only the joint effort of an AV grenadier and either a swarm launcher or a forge gun. congrats to them. but if my LLAV has more overall EHP from resist and higher speed and stronger weapon tht OHKs everyone there is no point of HAVs. Cause they r Weak. That's because LAVs got an unnecessary buff
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        |  Aythadis Smith
 The Generals
 EoN.
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 02:04:00 -
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 Void Echo wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Why did you spec into tanks after seeing all of the previous generation of tankers tell you how broken they were? only a hand full of us remains Few and proud
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        |  Sponglyboy Squaredoo
 Not Guilty
 EoN.
 
 114
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 02:08:00 -
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 As broken as tanks are, somebody's gotta do it.
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        |  Aythadis Smith
 The Generals
 EoN.
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 02:11:00 -
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 Charlotte O'Dell wrote:lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote:Why wouldn't you spec into tanks? As you say, they're broken as ****. Kill people in 1 shot and never die. Hit me up tonight. I'll let you drive a 1.5 mil isk tank and if you don't die you get to be right. Oh, and it'll be a Maddy with a blaster, too. Good luck getting more than 5 kills. Seriously. Hmu. I'll give you my tank. I'll give you three. Trade you tanks. 1.5 to 1.5?
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        |  BobThe843CakeMan
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 406
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.06.09 02:13:00 -
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 Scheneighnay McBob wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The old tanks were OP as hell, and the old tankers were used to that.
 I'm still seeing some HAVs lasting the entire battle by actual skill rather than playing the redline.
 so have i. u know when theres no enemy AV. any AV at all then they die.  I've seen several HAVs today survive with AV after them. They barely survived a few run-ins, but they still survived. But the AV was usually only the joint effort of an AV grenadier and either a swarm launcher or a forge gun. congrats to them. but if my LLAV has more overall EHP from resist and higher speed and stronger weapon tht OHKs everyone there is no point of HAVs. Cause they r Weak. That's because LAVs got an unnecessary buff o i'm talking about logi lavs. they never got a buff. well not as good as the milita ones. But tanks need the kind of resistance they have. a milita tank should have to passive resist. but standard tanks should have some kind of passive resist even if it's just 10%. LLAVs get a passive 25%.
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