DUST Search - PC is a Failure: Can players make it fun some how?

Kain Spero wrote:

Noc Tempre wrote:

Kain Spero wrote:

steadyhand amarr wrote:

shift PC to EvE players that can then contract out to Dust players at fixed prices this way its an EvE who has to talk to us and we can chose when and were to part without to much of it. if EvE units want a standing army for their PC they have to build up their own dust corp.

you know like what they said they were going to in the first place. Also maybe not having head in sand leadership and office shangi (Why what is the point england office tax breaks too >.<) might also help.

Actually, I do think this is the way to go. Have the option exists for either the Eve side or Dust side to "own" the districts. If the Eve side owns the districts then let Eve players use their ISK to pay for the clone packs, change surface structure, and move clones from place to place. Then allow the eve players to hire whoever they want to use their clones for their attacks and defense of the districts. In this scenario the Dusters get paid in biomass and loot and the Eve player gets paid in the passive ISK from clones and the passive bonuses from the districts.

Why would they do that when PI is better profit with lower effort and risk?

The right economic incentives would have to be put in place and they just aren't there. I know there are tons of groups eve-side that would love to get involved in orbital strikes and dust stuff, but there isn't really enough incentive there to do so. Plus, forcing Dusters an Eve pilots to join the same corp or alliance to reap rewards is just proving a painful obstacle.

Honestly, they do need a standings system in Dust, they need ways for eve pilots to manipulate clones and districts, and they need to get the Dust and Eve economies linked in a more tangible way.


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Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 339	Posted - 2013.06.09 16:07:00 - [1] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: There goes Kain. Turning ranting into business LOL +1 If you don't currently have land in PC you should come talk to me or my Eve side, Kane Spero. I think turning Oddelulft into a thunderdome will be fun. We should make sure to leave some space for the Dust schools though. This would be fun. No land is taken. Just use it as a tournament. Weekly tournaments for isk. The prize each week is all of the ISK generated by the districts.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 341	Posted - 2013.06.10 13:59:00 - [2] - Quote We have a right to complain about the game as it certainly has its issues, but all the knee jerk reactions of the game failing is nonsense. If they don't roll out some serious fixes or start to communicate more in the next month or so, perhaps. But our community is thriving. People are frustrated at times, but I just can't see people leaving is mass. This planet idea is enough to hold us over and CCP has said they will watch what we do with PC, if we work around it to create content for ourselves it should certainly send a message. I think there needs to be an announcement of the planet idea. I'm not sure if the Devs have found this thread.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 341	Posted - 2013.06.10 14:07:00 - [3] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Kain Spero wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: shift PC to EvE players that can then contract out to Dust players at fixed prices this way its an EvE who has to talk to us and we can chose when and were to part without to much of it. if EvE units want a standing army for their PC they have to build up their own dust corp. you know like what they said they were going to in the first place. Also maybe not having head in sand leadership and office shangi (Why what is the point england office tax breaks too >.<) might also help. Actually, I do think this is the way to go. Have the option exists for either the Eve side or Dust side to "own" the districts. If the Eve side owns the districts then let Eve players use their ISK to pay for the clone packs, change surface structure, and move clones from place to place. Then allow the eve players to hire whoever they want to use their clones for their attacks and defense of the districts. In this scenario the Dusters get paid in biomass and loot and the Eve player gets paid in the passive ISK from clones and the passive bonuses from the districts. Why would they do that when PI is better profit with lower effort and risk? The right economic incentives would have to be put in place and they just aren't there. I know there are tons of groups eve-side that would love to get involved in orbital strikes and dust stuff, but there isn't really enough incentive there to do so. Plus, forcing Dusters an Eve pilots to join the same corp or alliance to reap rewards is just proving a painful obstacle. Honestly, they do need a standings system in Dust, they need ways for eve pilots to manipulate clones and districts, and they need to get the Dust and Eve economies linked in a more tangible way. Yep, to get eve pilots involved right now it's only from a "something new" excitement for them to do it at all. Perhaps in the beginning it was to help their alliance or whatever, but it takes longer to get the strike down and many times its a dud because of this.