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Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:30:00 -
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And of course the opposite happened to us. We won a defense fight, didn't receive reinforcements, and were stuck with about 40 clones on the next fight.  |
Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:23:00 -
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People who keep saying PC is only for the top elite 1% or whatever bullshit number they made up are full of it. Yeah I'm looking at you Trolls, though you're hardly the only one QQ'ing about it. A top of the line best of the best 100 man corp should realistically only expect to defend 3-6 districts in the long term, unless people are just plain too scared to attack them. They can take most any district because they're the best of the best, but offense and defense are and will always be completely different animals.
Now there are clearly serious issues with PC in general and things that need to be addressed. But the people complaining about burnout inflicted it on themselves by putting their corps at the mercy of up to 40 timers a day. Because they were greedy and dumb and didn't bother to think about what would happen when they were having to defend 20 districts. Every. Single. Day.
You want more corps in PC? Quit trying to hold more land than you can realistically defend.
Payouts need to be adjusted, or what will likely happen is top corps will just roam around the map, kicking lower corps off land and selling off the districts (or extorting them). Payouts are so low and attack costs are so high (and consequently, selling prices) that trying to be involved in PC will be a significant net loss for anyone not able to attack and sell off land in a very efficient manner. So eventually corps quit buying and the whole thing stagnates into Farmville with attacks only being instigated by sheer boredom with the system. |
Cass Barr
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:30:00 -
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Gonna modify that to 3-6 districts during constant warfare. Maybe 10 or so in (relative) peace time. |
Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:49:00 -
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Well I can't speak for Imps, obviously, but judging by how easy it sounds like your attacks have gone, I'd be pretty bored with it too. Steamrolling is only fun for a little while.
Personally I've quite enjoyed PC battles when they don't have systemic latency and FPS issues. I've only been in one like that, luckily enough. The Skyfire installation always has moderate FPS issues for me, but it's like that regardless of the game mode.
Honestly I think it's just the novelty is wearing off for some people, and it's still the same basic game underneath, warts and all. Now it just has a mostly useless (and pretty much strategy-free) starmap attached to it.
On the upside, this pretty much signals that now's a good time for other corps to get involved, assuming they actually want to. |
Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.06.11 05:48:00 -
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First, in the long run I agree that Dust corps shouldn't be holding land, that's for Eve. We're just hired to attack, defend, and sabotage stuff.
That being said, in the current iteration I agree that clone pack spamming is detrimental, but I don't think they should be flat removed or have a hard cap.
If a Corp has 0 districts they pay the base price. Corps that already own districts should either pay an increased price based on number of held districts, or on the distance from the district they're attacking to their closest owned district. Or both. And the price increase should be significant and increase pretty dramatically.
But there also needs to be a way to bring in clone reinforcements to a district that's under attack. Currently an issue with using created clones to attack is that it leaves the district they were pulled from very vulnerable, and there's no real way to respond to attacks on a strategic level, that I am aware of. |
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