One-shot the logi with a Forge Gun, balance achieved?

Said it before and Ill say it again, the only nerf logistics need is replacing the light weapon slot with a sidearm slot
Do that and youll see people migrate away from it so they can actually use their favorite weapons

Way back in the Replication build, tears of Waaaaah! came over those who faced off with a heavy in their loludied 10 meter range area.

Back then it seemed justifiable that they had no equipment slot and very limited High/Low slots. But we still thought of many ways to further balance the heavy/HMG considering the HMG dominance in close quarters. - Lower turn speed, lower damage, higher dispersion, less health, faster heatbuild-up. All of these ideas were possible fixes for the perceived dominance of the heavy suit.

Then, in E3 built we found that they had implemented EVERY SINGLE ONE of those debuffs. Since then they have only piled those debuffs higher and higher and the heavy falls farther and farther behind until it is now one of the single most boring classes to play in all of vidyagaeming..

That, or use the Scrambler Rifle... it drops shields in one single shot.

Heavies could use a little more ehp, cal logies could use a little less.

I don't think there's much more that needs to be said here.

damage per clip> dps

Also the caldari logi is one flux away from the weakest suit in the game, LEARN HOW TO PLAY, stop making excuses as to why your bad...

Plenty of top players have chosen other suits besides the caldari logi, some imps respec'd out of it because the lack of side arm makes it tough, especially if you want to snipe or run with a weapon with low ammo.

I think part of the problem is how they have they have the generic bonuses. AKA the armor repair bonus on all logis, or the shield recharge bonus on assault.

Gallante/Amarr suits shouldn't have shield recharge bonuses. Caldari suits shouldn't have armor repair bonuses.

They need to either make the generic bonuses more race neutral, or just have 2 racial bonuses for each suit type.

Personally I would do something like this

Generic logi bonus= repairers (the kind you use on other players) and nanohives are 10% more effective per level.

Generic assault bonus= light arms do 3% more damage per level

Scout bonus is fine. They just need a bit more health, but not through a bonus.

Your an idiot clearly, most people always gravitate to AR's in EVERY shooter.

The AR's where well known before scrambler rifles were implemented, now that AR's are completely trash via nerds, if given a respec almost everyone would switch over to scrambler rifles, just wait another month or so and the scrambler will see a nerf just like the AR's....

tac ar was roughly 75.8 per bullet with 30 clip=2274 per clip

assault was 35.8 or so x's 60 = 2148

Consider the fact full auto is superior in a game with bad hit detection and frame rate...

I dont know the exact numbers....

But obviously you guys are bad players, that need some excuse to fall on, it doesn't really matter though other dev's have a backbone unlike CCP, so enjoy molding this game into **** while you can.

What allot people don't understand, is that the Caldari suit is not longer the logical choice for an assault class. The SCR has make Shield tanking a dangerous thing to do, and i personally found enough unbalance issues in the Caldari medium suit, to start thinking about the Minitar medium suit as a better choice.

Like you say... "Speed". Armor tanking with a Caldari suit is illogical, and when people starts to use the SCR more, shield tanking is going to be unrealistic.

Let me clarify... "Speed" tanking is going to be the best direction for a assault class to go to.

This is a load of crap. A heavy could open fire from behind me, I could spin around and drop him with a Tac AR no prob. I still had enough ammo to kill his logi and an unfortunate red dot that was meandering off in the background.

You've never actually witnessed me play then. You've seen me effing around in cheap suits since I came back, but you've never seen me actually play.

No offense, but unless you are Proto or Omni behind that alt, chances are I'd flat out destroy you.


The HMG is not the best mid range weapon - that's damn near the most ******** thing I've ever read and you're an idiot.

Try playing the game.

How come i've stood at distance's where my full auto douv couldn't hit a heavy, yet he was able to still hit me?